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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
February 15 2017 00:48 GMT
#18261
Not really dating but relationship stuff sorry ...

I'm in a great relationship with an awesome girl at the moment. However due to shitty visa issues, I have to leave the country (unless marriage). So we've been talking a lot about future plans. I'm happy if we were to go traveling for a few months together and then perhaps live together for a year in my home country working before assessing a return. She's all for this (would like to live abroad for a bit anyway) but as this is a massive long-term commitment I've confessed that I'm pretty nervous about it as I had not really envisaged settling down at this point in my life - and I'm worried about possibly sabotaging the relationship in the future because of this.

Her view is that we should pursue it long-term since it's going great and who can say if it works out in the future or not as long as we try. But at the same time she understandably doesn't want to waste her time if I'm sure I'll end it at some point.

We have been discussing this a lot but not sure what to do. I have told her the way I feel about the future right now I would end it at some point but that my feelings could definitely change over the next 6-18months as the relationship develops.

Am i just too immature for her at this point/timing is wrong for us/should we just go for it/will my priorities change?

Thoughts/advice please.

(FYI we are 29 and have been dating 9 months and living together for 6 of that).
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
February 15 2017 01:02 GMT
#18262
Whether its true immaturity or having consumed too much schleppy conventional relationship advice speaking, it sounds like you should stop overthinking things and let her come along with you. You aren't doing anything irreversible and other than your baseless worries of the future, it sounds like everything is great and worth continuing.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46237 Posts
February 15 2017 02:29 GMT
#18263
100% agree with farva. You're in a great relationship with an awesome girl, and you're having a good time together. See how things progress; don't overanalyze it and sabotage yourself! Enjoy
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5194 Posts
February 15 2017 06:44 GMT
#18264
On February 15 2017 09:48 ThunderGod wrote:
We have been discussing this a lot but not sure what to do. I have told her the way I feel about the future right now I would end it at some point but that my feelings could definitely change over the next 6-18months as the relationship develops.

Like, why do you even state the bolded part. What is your motivation behind it? Why would you break up with someone at some point if it's all going well? Am I massively misunderstanding this? It's not about being ready for long term, it's about accepting someone as your potential life partner. If you don't want that, then why commit in the first place to someone (you've been committing for 9 months already)?
Taxes are for Terrans
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
February 15 2017 08:48 GMT
#18265
I guess 9 months ago I was finally feeling ready for a relationship (had been single for a couple years) and didn't think so much about long-term commitment then but was just enjoying the moment.
Now, although everything is going well, I feel in future I may want to develop myself further as a single entity before accepting a life partner.
Of course the fear as I get older is not finding this again as she has been by some margin the most compatible girl I've dated (as per Moltke )
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
February 15 2017 09:00 GMT
#18266
There is no reason you can't develop yourself whilst in a relationship with someone. One of the best things about relationships is discovering yourself in conjunction to someone else. If they're really right for you, they'll develop with you, together or apart.

IMO take a leap of faith. Even if you end up breaking up then you haven't lost anything. You've tried and failed, and you've learnt from it and you've grown as a person. Always be open to learning from yourself
<3
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 15 2017 09:59 GMT
#18267
If you break up with her because of this reasoning you will officially be in the top 50 of dumbest motherfuckers I've met.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5194 Posts
February 15 2017 12:52 GMT
#18268
Yeah, what dravernor said. Being in a relationship and growing individually isn't mutually exclusive.
A long time commitment doesn't also necessarily mean you stop enjoying the moment.
Ofcourse there may be issues down the line, but whatever dude, it's not like you're unequipped as the capable human you are to deal with that.
Just don't fictionally add pressure to a situation because it somehow becomes a little more tangible to you. Nothing has changed.
Taxes are for Terrans
jojamon
Profile Joined December 2012
133 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-16 23:00:14
February 15 2017 19:05 GMT
#18269
edited out
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
February 15 2017 19:07 GMT
#18270
On February 16 2017 04:05 jojamon wrote:
So...27 y/o virgin here. Girl and I are planning to have sex this week, but she said her period is scheduled to come around this time. Any tips for menstrual sex?

It's the same as normal, just a bit messier. I recommend against going down on her, though.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
February 15 2017 19:07 GMT
#18271
I do not recommend for a first time. It is pretty gross and will likely put you off.
<3
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 15 2017 19:53 GMT
#18272
On February 15 2017 17:48 ThunderGod wrote:
I guess 9 months ago I was finally feeling ready for a relationship (had been single for a couple years) and didn't think so much about long-term commitment then but was just enjoying the moment.
Now, although everything is going well, I feel in future I may want to develop myself further as a single entity before accepting a life partner.
Of course the fear as I get older is not finding this again as she has been by some margin the most compatible girl I've dated (as per Moltke )

I want to second what has been said.
I'm in a long term relationship (7 years) and due to moving I have to build up a completely new social circle and have to basically reinvent myself because what I did before is not possible anymore. Still I'm happily with her. Just in another city for the time being.

In a relationship you evolve together but at the same time, as long as you remain two individuals, which I find super important not to be completely dependent on the other's presence, developing oneself is completely possible.

Go for the long term. From what you've written neither of you can loose out on it.
passive quaranstream fan
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
February 15 2017 20:58 GMT
#18273
On February 16 2017 04:05 jojamon wrote:
So...27 y/o virgin here. Girl and I are planning to have sex this week, but she said her period is scheduled to come around this time. Any tips for menstrual sex?

There will be other chances right? If I was you I would just postpone the sex to another day.

You will probably want to go down on her unless you're feeling very confident that you will manage to hold out long during your first time (which I would say is pretty unlikely). So to avoid your first time being "come in 20 seconds" and leaving her very unsatisfied, just wait until her period is over.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 15 2017 21:55 GMT
#18274
On February 16 2017 04:05 jojamon wrote:
So...27 y/o virgin here. Girl and I are planning to have sex this week, but she said her period is scheduled to come around this time. Any tips for menstrual sex?

Ya. Dont put the tip in. Wait for next week
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
February 15 2017 22:02 GMT
#18275
Using protection and having to go to the loo also helps holding out longer.
passive quaranstream fan
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-17 08:44:57
February 17 2017 08:39 GMT
#18276
period=Shower sex for me. Makes ladies more relaxed although I'm up for anything really
I'd probably hold out for the first time as well to be honest

Although I'm not the one to talk, we're celebrating a late Valentine's day today, it's my GF's early days
And so far I got to convince her to do it when the tides are retreating only, not on the rise, fingers crossed boys :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
February 17 2017 09:03 GMT
#18277
If I would be a 27 year old virgin I would say to hell with her period and just do it.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
February 17 2017 09:10 GMT
#18278
Oh and I'd totally forget about trying to satisfy her when it's your first time, she will understand - it's your special moment just focus on yourself and relax
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
February 17 2017 20:25 GMT
#18279
On February 17 2017 18:10 LemOn wrote:
Oh and I'd totally forget about trying to satisfy her when it's your first time, she will understand - it's your special moment just focus on yourself and relax

I think that depends. If you're actually dating someone they probably won't care, but if it's something more casual like one night stand or something similar, she probably won't want to fuck you again if you do nothing in return.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18387 Posts
February 17 2017 23:29 GMT
#18280
On February 18 2017 05:25 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2017 18:10 LemOn wrote:
Oh and I'd totally forget about trying to satisfy her when it's your first time, she will understand - it's your special moment just focus on yourself and relax

I think that depends. If you're actually dating someone they probably won't care, but if it's something more casual like one night stand or something similar, she probably won't want to fuck you again if you do nothing in return.

If it's a ons then why do you care? You won't see her again anyway.
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