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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

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1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
March 14 2016 23:35 GMT
#16201
True, but estrogen and testosterone have an effect on temperament and personality. I've always kinda wondered what a matriarchical society would be like in the modern world. Are there any well known examples?
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46246 Posts
March 15 2016 00:04 GMT
#16202
Here are six, although none are first-world: http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=31274
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 15 2016 00:50 GMT
#16203
On March 15 2016 09:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Here are six, although none are first-world: http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=31274


Makes you wonder why
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 15 2016 01:30 GMT
#16204
1 Year anniversary tips guys?

She's free after 3pm, I like campy stuff
And it's St.Patrick's day (we met on St. Paddys. Also started dating on St.Paddys)

I've booked a 1 hr boat ride that finishes at 5

So far ideas
- dinner at home I make with some bubbles
- fireworks? :D

Guess we should jump for a quick Guinness after boat since it is St.Paddys day.


Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18399 Posts
March 15 2016 02:16 GMT
#16205
It's St. Paddys: Irish carbombs till you fall off your barstool.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 03:30:21
March 15 2016 03:23 GMT
#16206
On March 15 2016 10:30 LemOn wrote:
1 Year anniversary tips guys?

She's free after 3pm, I like campy stuff
And it's St.Patrick's day (we met on St. Paddys. Also started dating on St.Paddys)

I've booked a 1 hr boat ride that finishes at 5

So far ideas
- dinner at home I make with some bubbles
- fireworks? :D

Guess we should jump for a quick Guinness after boat since it is St.Paddys day.




How about a 10 hour sex-session this time?

Congratulation on your anniversary. Probably not possible for the anniversary day itself, but is there anything both of you are interested in which can be done together and is suited for a somewhat regular activity? Like a sport/activity that you can proceed on doing together, an introduction-course/somewhat of that kind would make a good gift I think. Gives the whole thing a nice symbolic touch of entangling your life’s furthermore and thus making this day not only about celebrating what’s behind you, but also a step forward.

For the day itself, cooking dinner for her sounds awesome to me. And fireworks are a great idea too, given you have access to them the whole year in the UK. If so, I would definitely say fireworks as a nice finish. (At least here) There are rockets that are bigger than the normal stuff but which still are obtainable without any special permissions. A single one of them is more expensive than one of those regular sized rockets-packages but they are worth it in my opinion. They are just beautiful and look very similar to the stuff you see at professional fireworks shows. Weather has to be somewhat good though since these rockets explode further up in the air then the small ones, so it can’t be too cloudy/foggy.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 15 2016 03:39 GMT
#16207
Role play the day you met all over again as closely as possible. Same places, same conversations.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46246 Posts
March 15 2016 05:13 GMT
#16208
I second IgnE's suggestion. At least go to where your first date was, if possible Enjoy the nostalgia of the first few moments you two met
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 08:43:21
March 15 2016 08:31 GMT
#16209
Alright so I'm here to share a story complicated enough for me to omit, on purpose, a lot of details. More of a self-reflective article than an actual dating question.
I've been in China, as a foreign language teacher, for almost two years now. I consider myself an okay+ looking guy, the cute sweet-talking type that only occasionally works in the western world (where girls are way more drawn to a virility I've always lacked on) but is, when you factor exotism in the equation, super successful here.
I've spent the first year messing around, getting as many chicks as I could with relative ease before growing fed up with it. Second year I figured I'd try to actually date a Chinese and go for an intercultural relationship. I passed on a couple of opportunities with girls I didn't consider worth a try (not fun enough, too traditional) before meeting, by sheer coincidence, my current "girlfriend" _ she's from one of the western minorities (meaning she looks half-blood) and is a rocket physically, cute beyond compare, part-time model, true 9/10, a girl I would just be the "fun friend" of in Europe. She's also much easier-going than her peers and doesn't mind settling for a western lifestyle. Better yet, she came on to me and hence took much of the pressure I felt away in the first dates. Anyway, it seemed like the perfect deal and I went for it head first without giving it much second thoughts.
It's been roughly four months and she's been living with me for most of it _ I realize this is a mistake to go that far that fast with any bird but we get along so well the cohabitation has really never been an issue.
Thing is, as western as she's willing to go, she's still Chinese and, as a consequence, EXTREMELY immature (note that don't mean to discriminate, I'm stating a fact, it's a societal thing).
I went back to France for a month to spend christmas with family. I'm not much for long-distance relationships and don't know how to take care of a girl from half the world away so we naturally ended up talking a lot less during that time, which pushed her to go on dates with some chinese guys (dozens queue up and wait for their turn), one of which she ended up liking a lot (led to some kissing). She told me the day before I took my plane back and I, though a little upset, didn't mind that much. First two days back in China she kept talking to that guy through the phone and telling me he was taking care of her better than I do (understand : his wallet is a lot bigger than mine), I quickly grew tired of how disrespectful she was being so I broke up with her. She cried for an hour and asked me not to. That's when I start being too kind-hearted _ I let her have a side relationship with that dude WHILE living with me as friends with benefits until she figured out what she wanted. Chinese guy quickly found out she was still living with me (she lied to him on monumental scales), told her to move out, she refused, he got rid of her.
Now I know what y'all think : that girl is a twisted little spoiled brat who wants her cake and eat it, kick her out of your place and move on. I would, I really would, but I'm 26 and I know it's the last time I'll enjoy dating such a drama queen. I'm never bored with her, she's like the cheesy soaps you feel guilty watching. She's so moody and intense about the littlest things it's almost poetic. Everything is a tragedy, she goes from tears to laughs every ten minutes when she's in shape. A true fucking champion. I see her as a 5 years old child in a woman's body (common syndrom here) and feel very protective of her. She's emotionally retarded (not her fault, being an only child and everyone's sweetheart doesn't help) and has a lot of feeling issues. I have, over time, stopped being a boyfriend and am now more of a big brother, a father and a shrink all at once _ a status I'm enjoying a lot more than I should.
I know she needs me more than I need her and that if I cut the bridges she'll get deeply hurt. So here I stand, wondering what decision to make and changing my mind ten times a day on whether I should, or not, keep her. She's as fun to hang out with as she's unstandable when she goes on her inevitable nervous breakdowns and I know I won't have the stamina to carry on much longer.
I want to end this on a good note but I don't think it can be done.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 15 2016 08:51 GMT
#16210
I'm just going to call it as I read it.

On March 15 2016 17:31 CptMarvel wrote:which pushed her to go on dates with some chinese guys (dozens queue up and wait for their turn), one of which she ended up liking a lot (led to some kissing). She told me the day before I took my plane back and I, though a little upset, didn't mind that much.

The fuck?

I let her have a side relationship with that dude WHILE living with me as friends with benefits until she figured out what she wanted. Chinese guy quickly found out she was still living with me (she lied to him on monumental scales), told her to move out, she refused, he got rid of her.

Even the chinese guy seems to have some balls.

I'm never bored with her, she's like the cheesy soaps you feel guilty watching. She's so moody and intense about the littlest things it's almost poetic.

Just sounds like she got a great grip around your balls. She seems to be manipulating the shit out of you.

I know she needs me more than I need her and that if I cut the bridges she'll get deeply hurt.

So you're just a nice guy who is kind enough to stay with her?

I want to end this on a good note but I don't think it can be done.

The chinese guy could, so can you.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
March 15 2016 09:03 GMT
#16211
Haha yah I was expecting that sort of reply. Dude I'm fully aware of how awful she is but she, trust me, isn't smart enough to manipulate anyone to such an extent. She doesn't have a goddamn clue that the shit she does isn't okay.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 15 2016 09:09 GMT
#16212
On March 15 2016 18:03 CptMarvel wrote:
Haha yah I was expecting that sort of reply. Dude I'm fully aware of how awful she is but she, trust me, isn't smart enough to manipulate anyone to such an extent. She doesn't have a goddamn clue that the shit she does isn't okay.

She might not do it consciously, but even children learn to manipulate in their early years. If you know she is this bad, just do it.
Need help?
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
March 15 2016 09:18 GMT
#16213
Eventually she has to grow up. By protecting her, you're just making it worse for her later down the line. Sooner or later she will run into a wall, and the more set in her ways she is from the success she has with her behavior, the harder it will be for her when she hits that wall. You need to let her get hurt, because life isn't the joyride she thinks it is and getting hurt is part of life.
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
March 15 2016 09:18 GMT
#16214
Might be true on an unconscious scale but you can't simplify the issue. I get a lot from that relationship as well. I hear ya though.
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
March 15 2016 11:24 GMT
#16215
Met a girl.
She wants to be my sub.
She wants a child asap.
All you see now is me getting smaller in the distance.


And no. It wasn't ment as a joke.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 12:11:02
March 15 2016 12:08 GMT
#16216
On March 15 2016 12:23 waffelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2016 10:30 LemOn wrote:
1 Year anniversary tips guys?

She's free after 3pm, I like campy stuff
And it's St.Patrick's day (we met on St. Paddys. Also started dating on St.Paddys)

I've booked a 1 hr boat ride that finishes at 5

So far ideas
- dinner at home I make with some bubbles
- fireworks? :D

Guess we should jump for a quick Guinness after boat since it is St.Paddys day.




How about a 10 hour sex-session this time?


I want to plan something non-routine we've not done often.

So yeah, boat ride =>guiness=>dinner with bubbles=>blow some shit up sounds good
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-15 12:18:12
March 15 2016 12:17 GMT
#16217
On March 15 2016 14:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I second IgnE's suggestion. At least go to where your first date was, if possible Enjoy the nostalgia of the first few moments you two met

damn that does sound good!
beer at the club where we met =>go to cafe where we had first date=>to the subway station where she bit my lip it started bleeding for the first time => make cookies at my place which is the activity where we first did it =>still get bubbles and blow shit up afterwards anyways?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
March 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#16218
On March 15 2016 18:18 CptMarvel wrote:
Might be true on an unconscious scale but you can't simplify the issue. I get a lot from that relationship as well. I hear ya though.


Sometimes I think people really should make their GF what they post here, if she read your post maybe she would understand things better xD

I also had girlfriend in china that would have been way above my league in europe/canada and she was kind of like what you described. The thing is with those girls the only thing that matters is themselves. They are not as immature as they are selfish, so the second you leave, even for a few weeks, they will look out for other guys. Anything they do is towards their own selfish pleasure, and they have been raised that way so maybe it's not their fault.

I also dated another one who was more traditional but still seemed to be emotionally handicapped even though she was a very sweet girl.

Sweet or crazy, they all would start talking about kids/getting married after like 3 dates. It's hard to find girls in China (at least where I was, in central China) that are not brainwashed into arranged marriage and believe that a man is here to just take care of them, financially first, and then secondly, maybe, emotionally. The concept of being financially independent in a couple is kind of hard for them to grasp.

My advice would be try to not have regrets. If you still want to have sex with her be sure that you won't get too affected when another dude like that chinese guy comes up, because it will.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 15 2016 17:15 GMT
#16219
I've always found the rationalizations to justify a girl whoring around amusing. You left for a fucking month and she had to start dating MULTIPLE dudes?

Imagine a woman wrote that about a guy on a dominant female forum. Prolly not a single comment would defend him (rightfully so).

If you want to keep banging her, do so. But you should not feel any guilt at all about kicking her out after she started looking for side action while in a relationship with you.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 15 2016 17:42 GMT
#16220
If he's not going to marry her maybe she should be dating dudes on the side if that's what she wants.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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