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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-11 23:29:26
November 08 2015 22:32 GMT
#14801
edit
esports
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 22:38:12
November 08 2015 22:34 GMT
#14802
No one is a master kisser at first

Pretty sure I missed and banged into the girl's nose the first time
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 22:50:19
November 08 2015 22:48 GMT
#14803
Some good news, I have a date on Tuesday with the girl from the club. Let me tell you something somewhat interesting that went down the day after. Some context for those who missed it. Me, two friends of my friends and three girls were dancing together.

I'm A with the the girl who is X.
My friend is B dancing with girl Y.
Another of my friends is with girl C dancing with Z.

The day after C asks in our sms-group "Why the fuck did you A and B leave early?". I responded with that "Resistance wasn't futile with X. It wasn't going to happen." and I asked him how it went with girl Z. He then says "Z was so fucking disappointed that you left. Z said both of your girls were virgins and tonight was the night."

I'm unsure if Z was actually telling the truth, Y seemed like she wouldn't be a virgin and feels kinda odd that they would be looking for someone to hook up with when they were reluctant to leave each other. However I can imagine X was one, she was a bit awkward sometimes. She didn't really want to make out either, she wasn't really saying "I'm going to lose my virginity tonight" with her behavior.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-08 23:16:05
November 08 2015 22:50 GMT
#14804
On November 09 2015 07:00 bloodwhore~ wrote:
What an horrible experience. I am truly worthy of the title of the virgin mascot
I'm spoilering this shit so I don't have to read it ever again.
+ Show Spoiler +

Okay so I get there. Not even nervous, good sign. I knock on the door she opens, her face looks amazing, however her body is not what I imagined. She must have something like 30 kg on me. We proceed to put on a movie, during the first 70% of the movie I'm debating whether I should go for it or not. I think I might as well go for it, it's pretty dark and I'm getting horny. Second movie starts, she asks if she can kiss me, we start making out. Attempt to have sex begins.

Not really an enjoyable experience. She lays on her back there is SO MUCH WOMAN! She tries to touch my donger by sliding her hand from my lats to the donger. I'm apparently ticklish as fuck there. I'm starting to get hard, am hard, I have blown my load preemptively. The fucking irony. I couldn't even get hard before and now my boxers were not even off. I go to the bathroom clean my shit up. Come back tell her and tell my whole virgin as fuck story. We finish the movie and then I go home.

I am truly not cut out for this casual sex shit, at least not now. She was really cool about it so that's good, she even said she would still be around. I don't want to try again with her though. I'm just going to date for a relationship, at least for a while.

Oh? Dude that's awesome, how is that a bad story?!
Learning point: Next time you stick around like nothing freaking happened, talk, cuddle, and when you get a boner again you are ready to go! Forget going down on her I'd say when you don't know what you're doing.

Seriously, most of the time it's a compliment for the girl, especially if you spin it right. Next time just tell her "for fucks sake you make me so freaking horny, damn it woman now I have to clean myself off!" with a big smile, shaking your head
And then when you come back ask her something like "I'm sure this happens to you all the time, you must be a virgin too right "


Trust me, when you're older you'll look back at this and will just start laughing about how something so insignificant made you so embarrassed.This happened to me some 3-4 times with the opposite problem (no boner because tired+drunk+nervous). Girls take that much much worse. The first time it happened, it killed the relationship completely, I was getting more nervous it just wouldn't happen. Then I realized it's no big deal always super calmly watched as the girls freaked out, often started packing their things. I asked them "what is it?" "come over here, tell me about yourself" while playing with them while listening. And sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after an hour of not giving a fuck and alcohol subsiding the magic came back, multiple times always, and they wanted to come back :D

It actually never happened with my current GF, no matter how tired or drunk or how many times, I just have a perpetual boner with her, sometimes when she just texts me a smiley, perhaps that's love?



And I wouldn't let her go if I were you she obviously knows what she's doing, get some experiences man, so when you actually do find the love of your life, you blow her socks off and know what to do and have something to compare to to see if she's good for you in the first place !
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 08 2015 23:02 GMT
#14805
On November 09 2015 07:48 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Some good news, I have a date on Tuesday with the girl from the club. Let me tell you something somewhat interesting that went down the day after. Some context for those who missed it. Me, two friends of my friends and three girls were dancing together.

I'm A with the the girl who is X.
My friend is B dancing with girl Y.
Another of my friends is with girl C dancing with Z.

The day after C asks in our sms-group "Why the fuck did you A and B leave early?". I responded with that "Resistance wasn't futile with X. It wasn't going to happen." and I asked him how it went with girl Z. He then says "Z was so fucking disappointed that you left. Z said both of your girls were virgins and tonight was the night."

I'm unsure if Z was actually telling the truth, Y seemed like she wouldn't be a virgin and feels kinda odd that they would be looking for someone to hook up with when they were reluctant to leave each other. However I can imagine X was one, she was a bit awkward sometimes. She didn't really want to make out either, she wasn't really saying "I'm going to lose my virginity tonight" with her behavior.

Honestly though it's not your and B's fault if they seemed cold... if they told you to take it slower, everything could be resolved. Sure it's uncomfortable to tell a complete stranger. But at the very least Z could've seen it wasn't working out and whispered to one or both of you about X and Y. Or at the very very least, not blame you two.

Assuming of course they were telling the truth.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 08 2015 23:04 GMT
#14806
On November 09 2015 07:32 Luepert wrote:Like I'm guessing that it was really bad at the party too I just didn't care because of alcohol. But this time sober It was just too weird and awkward and I couldn't handle it. We've never actually done pecks on lips. I think I could handle that but making out is too confusing and whatever happened was just too awkward for me to handle.


Well I can sort of relate I guess. It wasn't long ago since I had never made out before. In fact, it kinda felt a bit awkward with the girl today. She was leaning to the left and I had to lean to the left as well and because I'm more proficient in leaning right it was not as good.

You'll get better in no time though. I don't think it would be that weird to ask for tips if you're chilling together watching a movie or something. I think she will be glad that you want to be good, and she will definitely enjoy more it if you do what she likes.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 08 2015 23:14 GMT
#14807
On November 09 2015 07:50 LemOn wrote:
Learning point: Next time you stick around like nothing freaking happened, talk, cuddle, and when you get a boner again you are ready to go!

Seriously, most of the time it's a compliment for the girl, especially if you spin it right. Next time just tell her "for fucks sake you make me so freaking horny, damn it woman now I have to clean myself off!" with a big smile, shaking your head
And then when you come back ask her something like "I'm sure this happens to you all the time, you must be a virgin too right "

Trust me, when you're older you'll look back at this and will just start laughing about how something so insignificant made you so embarrassed


And I wouldn't let her go, she obviously knows what she's doing, get some experiences man, so when you actually do find the love of your life, you blow her socks off and know what to do and have something to compare to to see if she's good for you in the first place !


Well we actually did cuddle, talk and stuff while we finished the movie. She did ask if I would be good to go later on but I wasn't really interested in trying again...

Trying again with her... I refer to my previous statement. Don't really find her that attractive like I feel it would be worth it. I would like to get good at going down on girls for example, but I know I wouldn't like it with her.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 08 2015 23:25 GMT
#14808
On November 09 2015 08:14 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 07:50 LemOn wrote:
Learning point: Next time you stick around like nothing freaking happened, talk, cuddle, and when you get a boner again you are ready to go!

Seriously, most of the time it's a compliment for the girl, especially if you spin it right. Next time just tell her "for fucks sake you make me so freaking horny, damn it woman now I have to clean myself off!" with a big smile, shaking your head
And then when you come back ask her something like "I'm sure this happens to you all the time, you must be a virgin too right "

Trust me, when you're older you'll look back at this and will just start laughing about how something so insignificant made you so embarrassed


And I wouldn't let her go, she obviously knows what she's doing, get some experiences man, so when you actually do find the love of your life, you blow her socks off and know what to do and have something to compare to to see if she's good for you in the first place !


Well we actually did cuddle, talk and stuff while we finished the movie. She did ask if I would be good to go later on but I wasn't really interested in trying again...

Trying again with her... I refer to my previous statement. Don't really find her that attractive like I feel it would be worth it. I would like to get good at going down on girls for example, but I know I wouldn't like it with her.

mostly just licking and sucking tbh its not really hard
watch a few pornos believe it or not and watch what they do thats how i learned and ive never been told im not good at it lol.
its pretty simple
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#14809
Okay fair enough, at least you know how to react next time - be honest, have fun with it, go again when you can. And if you can't, also good, new experience to boot!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 08 2015 23:26 GMT
#14810
Just pick a lip (opposite of the one she goes for) and suck it.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 08 2015 23:35 GMT
#14811
On November 09 2015 08:25 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 08:14 bloodwhore~ wrote:
On November 09 2015 07:50 LemOn wrote:
Learning point: Next time you stick around like nothing freaking happened, talk, cuddle, and when you get a boner again you are ready to go!

Seriously, most of the time it's a compliment for the girl, especially if you spin it right. Next time just tell her "for fucks sake you make me so freaking horny, damn it woman now I have to clean myself off!" with a big smile, shaking your head
And then when you come back ask her something like "I'm sure this happens to you all the time, you must be a virgin too right "

Trust me, when you're older you'll look back at this and will just start laughing about how something so insignificant made you so embarrassed


And I wouldn't let her go, she obviously knows what she's doing, get some experiences man, so when you actually do find the love of your life, you blow her socks off and know what to do and have something to compare to to see if she's good for you in the first place !


Well we actually did cuddle, talk and stuff while we finished the movie. She did ask if I would be good to go later on but I wasn't really interested in trying again...

Trying again with her... I refer to my previous statement. Don't really find her that attractive like I feel it would be worth it. I would like to get good at going down on girls for example, but I know I wouldn't like it with her.

mostly just licking and sucking tbh its not really hard
watch a few pornos believe it or not and watch what they do thats how i learned and ive never been told im not good at it lol.
its pretty simple

oh god, poor girls :D
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 06:34:27
November 08 2015 23:37 GMT
#14812
So for me:
-Meet
-Going well
-Try and get dinner Saturday night
-Her car dies Friday
-Spends all day shopping for car, says we can do din if she finishes
-Obviously no din
-Trying to reschedule

My love life confirmed playing on hard mode. Chatting and everything but weekend was a bit of a bust. Well, if I can get this first date should be smooth sailing unless I epically screw it up (in which case it would be no more sailing period).

Should I just wait till the weekend or try to shoot for a date after work?
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 08 2015 23:57 GMT
#14813
On November 09 2015 08:35 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 08:25 arb wrote:
On November 09 2015 08:14 bloodwhore~ wrote:
On November 09 2015 07:50 LemOn wrote:
Learning point: Next time you stick around like nothing freaking happened, talk, cuddle, and when you get a boner again you are ready to go!

Seriously, most of the time it's a compliment for the girl, especially if you spin it right. Next time just tell her "for fucks sake you make me so freaking horny, damn it woman now I have to clean myself off!" with a big smile, shaking your head
And then when you come back ask her something like "I'm sure this happens to you all the time, you must be a virgin too right "

Trust me, when you're older you'll look back at this and will just start laughing about how something so insignificant made you so embarrassed


And I wouldn't let her go, she obviously knows what she's doing, get some experiences man, so when you actually do find the love of your life, you blow her socks off and know what to do and have something to compare to to see if she's good for you in the first place !


Well we actually did cuddle, talk and stuff while we finished the movie. She did ask if I would be good to go later on but I wasn't really interested in trying again...

Trying again with her... I refer to my previous statement. Don't really find her that attractive like I feel it would be worth it. I would like to get good at going down on girls for example, but I know I wouldn't like it with her.

mostly just licking and sucking tbh its not really hard
watch a few pornos believe it or not and watch what they do thats how i learned and ive never been told im not good at it lol.
its pretty simple

oh god, poor girls :D

Always done really well with it, you gotta kinda cater to what she likes though
not all girls enjoy the same thing anyway. That was more of just a base to figure out where im supposed to be at l0l
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
November 09 2015 04:30 GMT
#14814
The kind of kissing they do in porn is like zero affection. It's the kind of kissing you would do when you pick up a girl at a club and you are both so horny you're practically doing it in the taxi ride home.

Not the way you would kiss a girl you actually like IMO

Also bloodwhore: First off I really gotta say I respect how open you are about all this. I'm not sure that I could.

Second, I said it before and I still think it applies: You seem to put a lot of pressure on yourself to do this thing. I think you should put it in the back of your mind, go on with life and let it happen at some point.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
November 09 2015 07:23 GMT
#14815
At least we've confirmed that Netflix/movies with a Tinder date is basically sex guaranteed.

For the couple of ppl who were still doubting that.. xD
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 09 2015 08:24 GMT
#14816
On November 09 2015 08:25 arb wrote:
mostly just licking and sucking tbh its not really hard
watch a few pornos believe it or not and watch what they do thats how i learned and ive never been told im not good at it lol.
its pretty simple

It's not that I don't know how, I have gone down on a girl before and she complimented me for it. It's just that I would be slightly repulsed by her I think.

On November 09 2015 13:30 B.I.G. wrote:Also bloodwhore: First off I really gotta say I respect how open you are about all this. I'm not sure that I could.

Second, I said it before and I still think it applies: You seem to put a lot of pressure on yourself to do this thing. I think you should put it in the back of your mind, go on with life and let it happen at some point.

I'm a pretty open/honest person and I'm not that emotional so I barely get that phased by stuff like this.

Yeah I might bring it down a notch. Will definitely look for girls that are fun to be with instead of thinking their face is sexy and want my donger in their mouth.

On November 09 2015 16:23 Laurens wrote:
At least we've confirmed that Netflix/movies with a Tinder date is basically sex guaranteed.

For the couple of ppl who were still doubting that.. xD

Haha yeah I guess that is true.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
November 09 2015 17:06 GMT
#14817
On November 07 2015 01:44 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 22:26 Ghostcom wrote:You misunderstood his post completely. He is saying that he thinks he needs to do exactly that.

Oh. Well it shouldn't be hard.

Show nested quote +
I feel like it's kind of forward to just be like "sup here is time and place, you in?" On one hand it sounds confident, but on the other hand not really me but I guess I'll have to step outside the comfort zone a bit.

Well if you don't expect her to be available at the time your suggestion go like: "Let me know a time and date when you're free and we'll [insert date]". And don't talk about other stuff until your date is confirmed if she is like slippery fish.


while that obviously can work, throwing out a passive invitation like that gives a whole lot of wiggle room in when and how someone will respond.

this is another situation where the same would apply to non-dating scenarios. if one of your friends or a business client is a pain in the ass about making plans, do you give them the passive option with multiple easy outs, or do you give them a fixed date to eliminate most of those problems, in a way that gives you a very direct way to give a counter proposal if that date doesn't work?

generally speaking here, but going with the direct approach will be better in most instances since it requires a response in a timely fashion, and most importantly demonstrates you take initiative for shit you want. i can't fathom how someone would take that as being too forward. being confident, taking initiative, etc and all the things going on in the direct response are definitely not bad things.
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
November 09 2015 17:14 GMT
#14818
On November 10 2015 02:06 QuanticHawk wrote:while that obviously can work, throwing out a passive invitation like that gives a whole lot of wiggle room in when and how someone will respond.

this is another situation where the same would apply to non-dating scenarios. if one of your friends or a business client is a pain in the ass about making plans, do you give them the passive option with multiple easy outs, or do you give them a fixed date to eliminate most of those problems, in a way that gives you a very direct way to give a counter proposal if that date doesn't work?

generally speaking here, but going with the direct approach will be better in most instances since it requires a response in a timely fashion, and most importantly demonstrates you take initiative for shit you want. i can't fathom how someone would take that as being too forward. being confident, taking initiative, etc and all the things going on in the direct response are definitely not bad things.


Well I'm guessing he has proposed a time and date already. Problem with saying "Lets do blabla the 8th at 18:00" for me is that she might just say "I can't then " and then you're back to square one. If she is the type that won't take initative unless you force her you will get nowhere, which she seems unable to do.

I think it's better just to put the ball in her hand and wait for her to take initiative. "Let me know when you can" might be a bit to passive I agree, however "When are you available for a date?" is not and might be the better option of the three in my opinion.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 09 2015 17:34 GMT
#14819
Kinda like that, I didn't want to put myself in that binary situation

Weekend didn't work out because of crazy reasons (previous post). Still going well, just deciding whether to shoot for next weekend or something a tad earlier.
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 18:02:54
November 09 2015 18:02 GMT
#14820
On November 10 2015 02:34 ticklishmusic wrote:
Kinda like that, I didn't want to put myself in that binary situation

Weekend didn't work out because of crazy reasons (previous post). Still going well, just deciding whether to shoot for next weekend or something a tad earlier.

In which binary situation? I just think you should try to make plans ASAP or move on. Doesn't really seem like she is interested in going on a date if it takes weeks for you guys to meet up.
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