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I only dated one girl and she was very...confusing. I used to ask her a question, she doesn't answer. Then she gets angry at me because our conversations never go longer than 30 minutes. We go on dates, she always arrives late and rushes off early. It's too difficult for her so she breaks up with me through a text. Okay that's expected she didn't seem that interest in me anyways. Few days later, she says she wants to get back together again. She didn't REALLY want to break up. Fine whatever, I'm stupid and I believe is second chances. I leave for college, she promises me to call every day. I keep promise. She never picks up. I play it safe and send text messages. No response. A week later she wants to end it again. Fuck it, I'm done, it's not worth it. Oh and apparently she was cheating on me the whole time with another dude.
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During highschool I flirted and got to third-base with a lot of girls, but this was all just fooling around. Then I started to dig this one underclassman like super hard. She was the cutest little thing and she was so flirty and boy-toyish. Idk why, but I immediately fell hard for her. I knew what I was getting myself into but I couldnt help myself.
We would talk a lot on the phone and she would call me whenever shes drunk or I got drunk and wed talk about w/e the hell was on our minds. She would say stuff like "I get horny when I talk on the phone with boys" or some shit like that. I really didnt take anything from it, just thought she was being a flirt and joking. Well anyways, after months of games I finally get the courage to ask her out. I wrote her a letter (corny as fuck, i know) I was aiming to be cute. But anyways, she finally tells me that shes already "taken" by this other dude shes been talking to, and Im like "well fuck" that other dude beat me to the punch. Anyways, Senior prom was coming up and I still wanted to take her (at this point im still in love with her, even if she had a "boyfriend". She then tells me that another friend asked to take her, and im like well "fuck"... I still ended up taking prom pictures with her and shit, but that was prolly a sad prom for me. Spent the prom night with this other underclassman girl (she was hot as fuck, but I had zero interests). And ended up just being emo and sad and shit during the hotel party just drinking till I passed out. All my friends knew how I felt, and I thanked them for their support.
During this whole time I got to get acquainted with a old friend I knew from elementary. She was friends with the girl I was still in love with, and we started to get really close. She would talk to me about her unrequited love, and I would talk about mines. She would try to console me and say that the girl I liked was the type to boytoy and be super flirty, I already knew that, but I still fell for it =( Anyways, she knew exactly how to make me feel better, and I knew how to make her feel better. We gave each other advice on love and friends and all that shit. Then before I knew it, I started to like her. I wanted to resist these feelings, because I was still in love with her friend, but again this couldnt be helped. I had such a strong connection with her and I can be myself with her. I remember times when I was on AIM and she messaged me I would always get butterflies or my heart would skip a beat I would then reply her "Hi" with "dlksadf;lasdjf;asdf;l" to express how I felt. She then did the same to me = / I could go on and on with all the lovey dovey stuff between me and her. I never expected something out of my friendship with her, all I thought was that she was an old friend and nothing else. But before I knew it, I fell for her, reluctantly I fell for her. Eventually she finally confessed her feelings to me after I confessed to her. It was the most amazing experience I have ever felt. The beauty about it was that it was so unexpected...
So... after months of talking to each other we finally make it official and start going out. This is around the start of college. Me and her make plans to go to the same college and take as much of the same classes as possible. This was prolly the most amazing experience I have ever had, the thrill of meeting her everyday and spending every possible second with the girl you love.
We finally get to sex, bla bla bla, we were each others first bla bla bla. Then my bad-boyfriend status finally starts to kick in. I started to take her for granted, I got too comfortable with her. Whenever we had an argument I would always leave it to her to fix, while I went off to play videogames (during this time it was dota/WoW/counterstrike). I always left her hanging crying on the phone whenever we fought, cause I was lazy and stupid and always said "dont worry, itll be fine". I was wrong, it was never fine. Its never fine if one is crying and the other isnt. She really gave her all for me, she put a lot into the relationship while I took a lot of it out. Eventually I started to lie to her and sneak out during nights to party with my friends. I hated the sneaking around, I would go out and drink or play yugioh and shit (yugioh was a big part of my life during this time, and she supported it). But again, I took advantage of her. Everytime she would ask ahead of time if I could stay home to talk with her at night, I would lie and say I have "family errands" to do. I left her high and dry when she needed me, she was going through a lot of personal stuff family/friends/job and I didnt care. Actually I did care, but not like I should have. I always dismissed her feelings for the night and would tell myself "ill deal with it in the morning". Well after 2-3 years of that she finally had enough, after me getting caught going out when I told her otherwise, drowned in tears she asked for space. Ridden with guilt I agreed.
The rest you can kinda guess. I finally started to realize what I had and took for granted. I missed her dearly, but she asked for space so I gave it to her. So the next couple months Im a complete mess, we texted each other seldom and she always asked for "more time". I kept trying to tell her that I was changed and a better man, but she wanted to work on herself first before getting back into the relationship. Eventually I gave her a ultimatum and she said that she cant get back together with me until she finds herself. I was like "okay, you got what you wanted, Ill break up with you". And that was that.
A couple months later I find, during the time I was giving her her "space", she was talking with another boy, and that she liked him. She confided this with me... I was still in love with her so I listened to what she had to say since its been so long since I had talked with her. (At this point, I have no eyes for other girls, I always pushed them away). She told me that he makes her feel like how I used to make her feel, and this hurt me a lot =( She said she feels guilty for making me break up with her and she feels guilty for having feelings for this new guy. I told her it was fine, and that I deserved this. She said that she still beleives that me and her can still end up together "if god lets us" w/e that means...
Its about 2 years since me and her broke up now, and I still love her... Me and her havent been going out with other people since. As for as I know shes been focusing on her job (graphic artist) and has no interests in love life, same for me: focusing on finishing school so I can work. Me and her tried being friends again, but its so hard, so it doesnt work out. Me and her rarely talk now, and if we do its always through facebook and never phone/text. Last contact I had with her was Christmas where I gave her a snoopy keychain, she loves snoopy. And from what I could tell from her friends, she loved it. I didnt even get to know what she thought of it herself... fucking sad right? I had to put the it in a mailbox and leave her a facebook message for her to pick it up. Thats the relationship we ended up in. I hope maybe one day we can be friends again. Thats all I really ask for, and maybe if our hearts are willing, we can start over from the beginning...
Story of my fucking life.
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I've had two girlfriends, my ex and my current one.
I've asked two girls out in my life.
Yeah I'm incredibly lucky.
I started with my ex in high school and we were just wrong for each other. Completely different worlds and while I'd like to say she was a stuck up spoiled bitch I can't deny that I made my mistakes too (but she was a stuck up spoiled bitch). I stayed with her for three years when we should've realized it wasn't working and broke it off during the first six months. It was two and a half years of a miserable, unfulfilled relationship (the first 6 months were alright).
My current gf is the girl I wish to marry. We get along great, we respect each other, and when we argue (seldom) almost every time it becomes a great talk about what we need to change for each other, how to compromise, why we got upset, etc. Never any crazy bitch episodes, no ridiculousness. We've been going out for two years now and I've never been happier. After the experience with my ex I was surprised that this girl was a total angel, my perfect match .
How did I meet her? I saw her sitting alone in class, sat next to her, and offered her some M&Ms. A month later (we didn't talk for a while after our first meeting) I happened to sit next to her again and we talked a bit and I followed up by asking her to get ice cream with me (purely as friends). About a month after that of hanging out we were dating.
It's quite cool how things work out. With my ex I was in the desperate relationship mode - it was late highschool, most of my friends had girlfriends, I had those forever-alone thoughts. So I asked out the girl that I thought was the most attractive in our school, surprisingly got a yes, and we went from there. Turned out terrible.
With my current gf neither of us was looking for a relationship; I had just broken up with my ex, wanted to experience some freedom for the first time in three years, and she wasn't interested. We just started up a conversation, became close friends and one day it just happened.
I firmly believe that the best relationships come when you aren't looking or pushing for one. No offense to anyone but love at first sight is bullshit. You should never date anyone until you are sure that you can become and stay great friends with them. I hear all about this friendzone stuff but you know why that happens? The guy goes in looking for a relationship while the girl does not want him. He doesn't become her friend, he becomes someone for her to use (to put it bluntly) because he is acting like he should treat her as a doted-upon girlfriend. Obviously you need to a find a mature girl for a great situation (meet -> friends -> close friends -> relationship) to develop rather than someone out for fun and flings but that's the kind of girl you ultimately want in the end anyway if you are seeking a long-term commitment.
Go out, meet people, make friends. Forget this soul searching. When the right one comes along, you'll both know it and it'll naturally happen. And though you might have to wait a bit longer, when it does it'll be the best thing to ever happen to you. I got really lucky in that I found who I consider my soulmate incredibly easily but from my (and my friends') experiences you will almost always get burned in the spur-of-the-moment physically-attracted relationships. After watching my previous and many other people's relationships fall apart, I think the most important part of a commitment is when you can first both be natural friends (without either party expecting more from the other). When you can be great friends without any other strings or expectations then your relationship will be great and fulfilling.
I think the best types of relationships are the ones where the two are best friends who also happen to be physically attracted to each other.
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My dating life is non-existant, quite literally.
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Decent enough I guess. Went out on a date 2 weeks ago with this awesome girl in one of my classes. It went awesome, saw Beauty and the Beast 3d(I'm 22 I don't give a shit). Did the whole cuddle during the movie and hold hands shenanigans. Night went pretty well until we got to her car and she only hugged me...so disappointed, other than that it was great though. But then it started getting kinda difficult. We still talk all the time in class and she texts me constantly, yet I can't seem to get a second date out of the deal at all. We had one set up but she plays rec league soccer and didn't get out of her game until 11 so we had to nix that idea. Like this passed week she actually asked me to start walking her to class so i kinda get the idea she's still interested but I can't get passed the whole 2 jobs, full time student and hanging out with friends barrier. Kinda annoying to deal with.
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On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally.
me too ;_;
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On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other...
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Its been non-existant for awhile now. I just don't feel like dealing with all the bullshit that comes with it anymore. Maybe I should try finding women that aren't annoying bitches or something.
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On February 02 2012 13:27 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Recently I asked a girl to invite me to see hunger games with her when she was going to see it. She said she'd be seeing it back home (w/ others) and apologized. I guess it wouldn't have been a date anyways.
Rather than try to invite yourself to something that's already happening (unless there's like a specific context there, I'm nearly positive it wouldn't be construed as a date), for it to actually be a date, I think you have to be the one to set up an event and invite the other person.
You're from Canada, so unfortunately my best first date idea of going ice skating probably isn't that great for you, since everyone can already do it well there and does it normally^^. However for me, a Canadian raised in Southern California where almost no one does it, it's THE BEST FIRST DATE compared to any first date my friends have told me. Not as awkward as I presume a movie would be, a little more original, hands on, and since I can skate and they usually suck or are at BEST mediocre (only had one girl that could kinda do it, but I was still miles ahead of her), I can help them out if they are about to fall, grab there hands and push them along, grab the waist from behind and skate fast pushing them forward, etc. without actually being creepy. Let's you get a feel if they're into you or not.
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On February 02 2012 14:39 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other... That make 4 of us. :D
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On February 02 2012 15:19 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 14:39 eviltomahawk wrote:On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other... That make 4 of us. :D
5!
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Once upon a time not long ago I had high hopes of becoming a ladies man...........then i took an arrow in the knee.
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Yep, nonexistent. Never had a girlfriend, never had a date. Fun times all around.
I'm actually on track to have asked out one girl per year since I was 15 if I find someone to ask for the next 11 months before I turn 21, but I only wanted/expected one of them to say yes, the rest I just asked because I felt like I should or just to make sure I still had it in me to do so. I also got asked out in both my freshman of highschool and college, but wasn't interested either time since the one I'd only spoken to either of them on a couple of occasions prior.
As I recall of the ones I asked, 3 of them were flattered but couldn't/didn't want to for various reasons, 1 thought I was creepy SOB, and the one I really hoped would say yes gave me a "not right now" answer and proceeded to get a boyfriend 3 months later and resented me when I stopped going to the club she was president of after that. I'll spare you all the details of the whole affair.
It might just be because I have a hard time relating to and having a normal conversation with people who aren't either significantly older than me, guys into slightly geeky stuff within a few years of my age, or very rarely a person I'll just hit it off with. Or it might just be that I'm a terrible human being .Kinda figure I'll just have a cat to keep me company for my adult life, but hey you never know how your luck might change.
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On February 02 2012 15:30 Ixtlilton wrote:Yep, nonexistent. Never had a girlfriend, never had a date. Fun times all around. I'm actually on track to have asked out one girl per year since I was 15 if I find someone to ask for the next 11 months before I turn 21, but I only wanted/expected one of them to say yes, the rest I just asked because I felt like I should or just to make sure I still had it in me to do so. I also got asked out in both my freshman of highschool and college, but wasn't interested either time since the one I'd only spoken to either of them on a couple of occasions prior. As I recall of the ones I asked, 3 of them were flattered but couldn't/didn't want to for various reasons, 1 thought I was creepy SOB, and the one I really hoped would say yes gave me a "not right now" answer and proceeded to get a boyfriend 3 months later and resented me when I stopped going to the club she was president of after that. I'll spare you all the details of the whole affair. It might just be because I have a hard time relating to and having a normal conversation with people who aren't either significantly older than me, guys into slightly geeky stuff within a few years of my age, or very rarely a person I'll just hit it off with. Or it might just be that I'm a terrible human being  .Kinda figure I'll just have a cat to keep me company for my adult life, but hey you never know how your luck might change.
To the people you've rejected... just gonna say, why not go on the date?
I mean, you might not be explicitly attracted to them, but if they're not bad looking, I think it gives you something to do and it's fun. Dating is by no means being bf/gf, it's just that.... going on a date. I usually say yes (not that it happens frequently) when a girl asks me because it's a pretty big bummer to be rejected, you never know if you might end up liking them in the future, and it's an excuse to go out and do something. Something to think about, etc. My very first "real" gf (not the three month shit that happened to me in high school twice) actually happened from her originally making an effort to talk to me. I wasn't very interested in her, didn't find her super attractive in particular (she was still fairly decent looking, pretty enough), but I decided why not? I actually asked her out, although she had put in all the effort thus far.
About five months later, I felt I wasn't really that into her, said I wanted to take a one week break just to get some space, realized that same night "holy shit, you're in fucking love with this girl, what are you doing, you don't want to go a week without her." Called her up, she said she wanted to sleep on it, we went on a walk the next night, told her I fucked up by getting mad at her (that's why I wanted the break, she pissed me off), and finally said the first "I love you" that I never thought I would be saying to her. Ended up going out for a year and 8 months or so (I can't remember exactly).
So you never know! Why not! It's not "settling" because no one is forcing you to become exclusive (I actually prefer dating casually for quite a while unless I'm really into the girl), and no one is forcing you to say "I love you." And going on a date with someone is hardly leading someone on, that's only when you let it last for too long of a time and you KNOW by that point it's not turning into something.
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I lurk a lot and don't post much, but I have some good responses for this thread...
Girl unexpectedly talks about Brood War on a date: + Show Spoiler + I want to start with a good story first that everyone here should appreciate. I was set up on a blind date (this was pre-sc2 time) with a really cute girl by a mutual friend. She laughed at my jokes and was pretty funny herself. I felt like I was charming enough and the conversation was good. Then suddenly the date took a turn I never expected when she, without any kind of initiation from me, expressed her interest in video games (my eyes widen and I sit up a little straighter), specifically in Brood War (my eyes fall out of my head). She played Terran, which was a little downer since I'm a Zerg man, but who cares, right? I remember being amazed that I was on a blind date and the girl across from me was talking about siege tanks. I am usually a closet nerd and I rarely if ever bring up video games on a first date (sorry Day9 episode #100), so it was a little awkward for me to go against the grain, but at the same time how awesome to be able to talk about starcraft on a first date. One interesting thing to note that I'm a little embarrassed about is that yes she was cute and yes we were getting along and YES she was even laughing at my jokes, but holy moly when she started talking about Brood War the attraction meter in my head went off the charts.
Unfortunately the end of the story is she wasn't interested in going out again even though I was. I did ask my friend and did some minimal-yet-necessary facebook stalking and my best guess is she liked me but was more interested in another guy at the time. I always thought that was a fun experience though.
Don't be too proud to date an ex: + Show Spoiler +The girl I dated in high school was one of the (if not THE) best matches I've ever had. I wasn't a great boyfriend (hey, it was high school), and she ended up cheating on me, but we reconciled and were friends after that. I know people say you can't get back to the friend zone, and sure it wasn't exactly the same but it was pretty close. She ended up leaving the guy she cheated on me for because he was a jerk, only to get back together with him and married him a few years later. I still regret not putting away my pride and trying to start it up again when we were a little older and more mature. We always were friends and got along great. She also had apologized for what she did and I definitely don't think it would have reoccured. But I always held my feelings back for some arbitrary reason because it seemed like the thing to do (I'm sure plenty of you are nodding your heads, why would you date someone that cheated on you?). I'll tell you why, because you were young and stupid and both made mistakes, but years later you're still getting along great and have both grown and matured a lot. Why not give it a second chance? I didn't realize at that time how good of a match we were, having not experienced a lot of other women, but now I look back and think it was a mistake to follow some arbitrary restriction I put on myself. A lot of these posts are from much younger people, so learn from my mistakes! 
Tragedy: Breakup because it's the right decision and not the easy decision + Show Spoiler +Lastly... I just recently broke things off with a really amazing, sweet, cute girl. We both loved each other and were also a really good match. I really like her family and they liked me, and vice versa for her and my family. She supported video games and would even play Plants vs Zombies (and would listen when I talked about esports). We had a really amazing and healthy relationship and were probably on the way to get married. What happened then? We broke it off because of religious differences (I'm a very critical thinker and like to challenge and investigate religion, while she is very traditional and conservative). We didn't even want to break up, but we came to a mutual decision that that was the best choice for the future. Sad way to break up.  There are a lot of details I'm leaving out of this story, in case people are getting worked up. Feel free to leave feedback if you want, but I am confident that we did not rush the decision and that it was the best one given the particular circumstances we were in.
Note I'm not looking for sympathy. Just thought these were relevant and maybe interesting.
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On February 02 2012 15:20 Fishgle wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:19 Erasme wrote:On February 02 2012 14:39 eviltomahawk wrote:On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other... That make 4 of us. :D 5! 6 D':
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On February 02 2012 15:42 FlyingToilet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:20 Fishgle wrote:On February 02 2012 15:19 Erasme wrote:On February 02 2012 14:39 eviltomahawk wrote:On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other... That make 4 of us. :D 5! 6 D': Make that 7 T.T Never ever had a date. fml..... T.T
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Been in a relationship with five, had "romantic encounters" with several more. The past two months have been very dull though. I go to a private, Lutheran, liberal arts college, and I find that women here are either 1) "loose" and not looking for a relationship of any kind, or 2) already in a 3 year committed relationship with a guy from back home. The dating scene here is kind of terrible for single heterosexual men.
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On February 02 2012 15:46 Clazziquai10 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 15:42 FlyingToilet wrote:On February 02 2012 15:20 Fishgle wrote:On February 02 2012 15:19 Erasme wrote:On February 02 2012 14:39 eviltomahawk wrote:On February 02 2012 14:30 KimJongChill wrote:On February 02 2012 14:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: My dating life is non-existant, quite literally. me too ;_; Don't worry. At least we have each other... That make 4 of us. :D 5! 6 D': Make that 7 T.T Never ever had a date. fml..... T.T count me in! 8
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Here's my story. God it sounds corny, and I wrote it in third person too. Feels good to vent though.
+ Show Spoiler +One upon a time in the distant land of California, there lived a boy named Ticklishmusic. After a storm which drove him from his home (reference to Hurricane Katrina), he went to live with his aunt in the town of Thousand Oaks. It was a sunny, pleasant place, except for his extremely strict and rather overbearing compulsive aunt and his prodigy cousins. At the end of the first semester, he left Thousand Oaks with his family, bidding farewell to his friends. He went across California to the Bay Area. The family found a house in the tiny city of Albany, slightly south of UC Berkeley which was actually bigger than the town. And the dad went off to work, the mom “cleaned the house”, and Ticklishmusic went to school.
At school, Ticklishmusic quickly made friends. He became part of a patchwork quilt of students from all sorts of backgrounds: rich, poor. Happy, depressed. Athletic, not athletic. Smart, not-so-smart. After a month or two, it was as if he had been there all his life. He could barely remember his real home.
Among the many people Ticklishmusic hnug out with was a boy named Ezra. The two sat together in Spanish class, and walked several blocks in the same direction together after school. And they were friends.
There was also The girl. She and Ticklishmusic were both on the track team, and had PE and Algebra I together. After track practice, they would walk home together as well. And it became kind of a joke amongst the group of friends that the two hung out together so much.
Slowly as these things went, Ticklishmusic and The girl spent more time together. Every morning, Ticklishmusic arranged it so his route would cross The girl’s and they would walk to school together. And at lunch, they sat next to each other. And of course, they walked home together. And the jokes continued, but they took it; the jokes had some truth in them after all. Ticklishmusic liked The girl, and The girl liked him too. But since they were in seventh grade, it stayed that way for awhile. And perhaps it would have stayed that way, for Ticklishmusic had little time left in Albany. Then nearing the end of the year, there was a dance at school. So Ticklishmusic asked The girl to go “as friends” with the rest of their peoples. And so they did. It was May 13.
For several hours, they sat in the bleachers with other friends and chatted and laughed. And they also got up and danced with their friends in a big group. And it was fun.
Finally, the dance neared its end. And the DJ put on a slow song.
From where they sat, Ticklishmusic gathered up his courage and nudged The girl and asked for a dance. And they snuck away from the mass of laughing, chatting friends to the other, darker side of the gym. And they danced. First they did the awkward shoulder arm thing, then settled into a… err… more comfortable position.
In his mind, Ticklishmusic went over many things and finally opened his mouth to say something.
But, Ezra suddenly popped up, waving his cell phone above the couple’s heads in an irritating, intruding manner. And he ooh’d and ahh’d and called over the other friends. And Ticklishmusic and The girl stepped back from each other (the song was almost over) and smiled sheepishly and laughed too.
Ticklishmusic never got to say what he wanted to say.
Ticklishmusic and The girl hung out plenty for the rest of the year. A big party was thrown for him when he left. Atop Albany Rock, the highest point in the town, they said “I guess this is goodbye,” and impulsively, had their first kiss. They hugged and bid farewell to each other and promised to keep in contact. And that was it.
For several weeks into the summer, they talked often. And one day, Ticklishmusic called, and no one picked up. And the calls stopped.
For three years, it was as if they had never met and never known one another. Ticklishmusic began to wonder if it had actually happened, then locked his memories of California into a box and hid the key. And he hobbled his way through everyday life and smiled.
Well, there were good days and bad days. From his sole remaining contact to California, Michael, he discovered that Ezra and The girl began going out on July 6. And Ticklishmusic was sad. But they quickly broke up. And Ticklishmusic was less sad.
After three years, a thousand days, The girl finally called. When Ticklishmusic took his cell phone from his pocket, he thought he was dreaming. But he picked up. And the box of memories opened. And his phone bill went from an average of 700 minutes to 1300 for January.
After several days of renewed contact, The girl explained why the calls had stopped. Turned out, Ezra had mentioned something to her about Ticklishmusic never liking her. Obviously, it was quite devastating and he, Ezra, had played the sympathetic one. And thusly, they went out. But only for a short time.
Hearing this, Ticklishmusic chucked his phone at the wall/bed. And then went to pick it up and explain. (somehow, the phone didn’t shut off) There was a lot of awkward silence. But the next day, they talked again and there were a lot of what-might-have-beens that whizzed through Ticklishmusic’s head.
And through a series of complicated circumstances involving the economy, The girl’s dad decided to move the family back to Taiwan.
Though years passed and high school happened, they kept in touch. It was a difficult time and space difference, but they managed to keep in contact. They shared stories of their lives, and Ticklishmusic skyped late into the night. But, they never defined exactly what the relationship was between them. Ticklishmusic left the box locked, and they were friends, siblings… something.
Outside of those emails, old-fashioned letters and video calls, life went on. They succeeded in high school, making the top of their classes, and joining many clubs and having lots of fun with new friends. They dated other people, yet for Ticklishmusic, something never quite felt right. Every girl he dated, after that initial flare of passion, felt strangely distant. They were all nice, they were fairly pretty too as Ticklishmusic had some standards, but something was… missing. “Is this love?” he asked himself. And in the end, that doubt led to the ruin of his relationships. And then he asked himself “Is this sadness?” At the best, he was a wet blankie for several girls (and a few guy friends as well). And so life went on.
Finally, graduation came. Ticklishmusic tossed his mortarboard, and his family went to Taiwan to visit the grandparents. Ticklishmusic was delighted to visit Taiwan—he had great memories of the sights, and all his cousins and his wonderful grandmother who had made him delicious things to eat. His Chinese was not so good anymore, but that was no big deal. It was Taiwan. Taipei. The city he perhaps loved the most in the world. And this time, the stakes were higher, for The girl was there as well.
One day, they decided to hang out. Taipei 101 was the location. Ticklishmusic told his family that he was going to take a walk through the city as he often did, and left his grandparents’ apartment. He caught a bus and went to Taipei 101, his stomach filled with butterflies.
Ticklishmusic arrived several minutes early and sat down on a bench. He watched the people moving across the plaza, until he felt a tap on his shoulder. He whirled around, and there stood his friend from seventh grade. Despite the frequent facebooking and video calls, he had not realized how much she had changed, for he his mental image had been static. Indeed, despite years of calculus, biology and English, they were much the same kids they were in a place long ago called California. Except that she was heart-breakingly beautiful to him, as opposed to the “pretty cute” from seventh grade. And so, they wandered the city together. They chatted like the old friends they were, and had much fun. They caught Pirates of the Carribean, a terrible movie, annoying the many other people who had come to see it with their whispered criticism. They wandered through, generally acting ridiculously. The box of memories was dusted off, and the key was placed in the keyhole and turned.
The sun set, its last light turned Taipei 101 into a blood-red pillar above the city. So, it was time for dinner. They found a small traditional café, which had probably been there for a hundred years that neither would probably visit again. The girl produced some grape juice, and the two began to eat and drink. As Ticklishmusic took the first sip, he noticed it tasted funny—it tasted like grape juice and vodka! Oh well. Carpe diem. The drinking age in Taiwan was 18. He kept drinking anyways.
By the end of the meal, the two were quite tipsy. Grape juice and vodka is not particularly strong, but many Asian people apparently, including Ticklishmusic and The girl, have a gene that makes alcohol processing hard for the body—they had not so good alcohol tolerance. It was dark, and so they headed off to the park. They procured a kite from somewhere and flew it until they managed to lose it, then zig zagged across the park before lying down side by side in the grass under a tree atop a hill.
It was a bit damp and chilly, and so they huddled close together. The girl turned her head, and Ticklishmusic kissed her. They separated, and as Ticklishmusic looked into her eyes, he knew that he was in love with her, and had been for seven years. And after all those years, damn right he told her that. That feeling, that moment when the universe and all the world will stop for you, is love.
We made out for awhile, then remained cuddled. I asked her what would become of us. We agreed that given the distance between us, that we should willingly walk the paths before us. It might lead to each other once more, it might not. And we would walk, and not look back. Letting go of her was perhaps the most difficult thing in my life. I was crying most of the way back.
I flew back home a few weeks later. We kept in touch. We went to college- me in Georgia, her in Taipei. There were many attractive (Asian) girls at my school, but past physical attractiveness, I wasn’t interested really. I had my own private sorrow, happiness, I wasn’t sure which.
About a week ago, she went to the doctor for a more or less routine checkup. She hadn’t been feeling too well. The doctor did his tests, and found something a bit funny.
Cancer was the word, though he wasn’t quite sure what kind. T-cell-prolymphocytic leukemia was the diagnosis, and the path she would walk away from him on.
tl;dr girl and me liked each other since seventh grade, moved far away from each other but kept in contact, finally saw each other and realized we were in love. we agreed to go on with our lives, regardless of where they took us, then found out she has cancer.
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