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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
February 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#7981
In retrospect i kind of worded it as a date lunch not a hang out lunch. On the plus side sh kmows i like her and still talks to me.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
February 05 2014 20:03 GMT
#7982
On February 06 2014 04:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
In retrospect i kind of worded it as a date lunch not a hang out lunch. On the plus side sh kmows i like her and still talks to me.

Then at least a lunch date will probably work out more likely than not
Liquorshot_852
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)72 Posts
February 05 2014 21:02 GMT
#7983
3 years, 2 months, then 1 year. currently on 4th for 2 months..

the strange thing is...you really want to get in a relationship when you're single... but when you're in a relationship, you really want to have some alone time without the gf...

anyone know how to get over this?? or is it just me?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
February 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#7984
Talk to her and explain you need some alone time every now and then.
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chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
February 05 2014 21:32 GMT
#7985
On February 06 2014 06:02 Liquorshot_852 wrote:
3 years, 2 months, then 1 year. currently on 4th for 2 months..

the strange thing is...you really want to get in a relationship when you're single... but when you're in a relationship, you really want to have some alone time without the gf...

anyone know how to get over this?? or is it just me?

"Yo bitch, why you always all up in my space? Pump those brakes and slow your roll homie, I need ma jerkoff time"
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
February 05 2014 21:46 GMT
#7986
Started a new class at UCLA. I participated in a lot of the discussion with the professor. Apparently, that got me a reputation as a smart person in class, and several girls, (a few good looking ones among them), approached me and gave me their numbers. I've never ever had that happen in my life.

The one I think looks the cutest... is clearly not a native English speaker. We have several native Chinese/Taiwanese girls in the class, and not being able to speak fluent English is a big turn off for me. The whole communication barrier, and I take pride in my humor, which many non-fluent English speakers will not get as well.

The girl I'm most attracted to who can speak fluent English... lives 60 miles away from me. I live 30 miles away from UCLA, she also lives 30 miles... in the opposite direction. She's also busy most of the time, works at an accounting firm, and is only taking one class. Shame, she seemed really nice and is very fun to talk to.

The girl I connect the most with (we're both tech geeks and love dogs)... has a boyfriend. Oh well, we can still be friends.

Bah bah bah.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 22:33:04
February 05 2014 22:32 GMT
#7987
I just remembered something that happened a few months ago and I'm wondering what you all would do:

So this girl was in to me and I was in to her. I see her and compliment her dress. After we're talking for a bit she asks me to rate her out of 10. + Show Spoiler +
I said "uhmmm, not falling for that" or something like that
. I don't subscribe to the PUA ideology but how would you respond to this "shit test"? Looking back I thought it could have been funny to say "1/10 would not bang" but I don't think I knew her well enough to get away with that.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26341 Posts
February 05 2014 22:34 GMT
#7988
I generally respond with something 2 points below what I actually consider them, and then say 'if you made a bit of an effort you could be...' or whatever. Again it's very much in the delivery, so if you can't pull of that borderline social-retard quirkiness you could try something else
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
February 05 2014 22:41 GMT
#7989
I didn't honestly think there was a rating system. I always thought it was a joke.... jeez.
<3
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 05 2014 22:45 GMT
#7990
Yeah same. I think it's kind of gross. I didn't even have anything in mind because I guess I subscribe to the binary system (attractive or not). I honestly still don't even know what she was looking for as a response.
On February 06 2014 07:34 Wombat_NI wrote:
I generally respond with something 2 points below what I actually consider them, and then say 'if you made a bit of an effort you could be...' or whatever. Again it's very much in the delivery, so if you can't pull of that borderline social-retard quirkiness you could try something else

TBH that just seems like a good way to piss someone off. It's not like I was just picking up this girl, I had known her for about three weeks.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
February 05 2014 22:50 GMT
#7991
I would probably say something along the lines of "what are 1 and 10? Give me some examples of what you consider a _." I've found girls analyze each others looks incessantly. Isn't there a saying about how women dress to impress other women not men, since most men wouldn't notice it anyway? If you can get her talking about what features she thinks are attractive/unattractive, which are more important, what her thoughts are on women around her, etc., then you can avoid answering the question and get into a conversation instead.

As a rule of thumb, I would always try to turn questions with 1 word or short phrase answers on their head in order to engage in an actual conversation. It will allow you both to get to know each other better and avoids situations in which either of you are saying something generic and boring that the other person has likely heard often before.
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
February 05 2014 22:52 GMT
#7992
How do I get my Girlfriend to stop complaining about me drinking in front of her? She is Afghan and a Muslim and says its against her religion to be around alcohol .I say when I am in my own house I should be able to have a drink when i want. Am I wrong?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 05 2014 22:56 GMT
#7993
Tell her that underage swedish girls dont mind you drinking in front of them
This is our town, scrub
Niflheim
Profile Joined February 2012
United States313 Posts
February 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#7994
On February 06 2014 06:02 Liquorshot_852 wrote:
3 years, 2 months, then 1 year. currently on 4th for 2 months..

the strange thing is...you really want to get in a relationship when you're single... but when you're in a relationship, you really want to have some alone time without the gf...

anyone know how to get over this?? or is it just me?


That isn't something you get over... it is just something you have to work out with your girlfriend. If you both have vastly different ideas of how much time together and how much alone or guy time you need, then most likely the relationship won't work out. If there are slight difference, then it is easy to make compromises.

My relationships have worked out pretty similar to yours... 4 years, 4 months, 1 year, and now on a 4th for about a month.
In my first relationship, there was no such thing as alone time for either of us. It wasn't a problem for the longest time, but then in the last year when we were having issues it became a big deal. After that, I tried to put it out up front. The next chick I dated was pretty crazy and ended up trying to move in with me after 3 months and didn't respect my space at all. The next girl started out respecting it and then got really clingy when she moved in (I'm not so sure moving in together before being together at least a year is a good idea anymore...)

In this current relationship, I just said it flat out... I go to the rock gym 2 nights during the week and so those nights I'm busy and can't do anything. It lets me get in a good work out and keeps the rest of the night to myself to do whatever I want or need to get done and so far she has respected that. She doesn't really text me those nights and if she does she knows she won't get a quick response.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
February 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#7995
On February 06 2014 07:45 Chocolate wrote:
Yeah same. I think it's kind of gross. I didn't even have anything in mind because I guess I subscribe to the binary system (attractive or not). I honestly still don't even know what she was looking for as a response.


I'm curious why you think it's gross? It's just a way of referencing someone's attractiveness compared to the average person.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#7996
On February 06 2014 08:03 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 07:45 Chocolate wrote:
Yeah same. I think it's kind of gross. I didn't even have anything in mind because I guess I subscribe to the binary system (attractive or not). I honestly still don't even know what she was looking for as a response.


I'm curious why you think it's gross? It's just a way of referencing someone's attractiveness compared to the average person.

It seems kind of dehumanizing. I don't look at a girl and say "hmm I like her but she is only a 7, I can only be seen with 8+" I just find certain people attractive and certain ones not attractive. Maybe I am in the minority here.

Also I don't really think it is a reference to the average person. If I had to guess I'd say most people would give their partners a 7/10.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 23:23:28
February 05 2014 23:16 GMT
#7997
On February 06 2014 08:08 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:03 Najda wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:45 Chocolate wrote:
Yeah same. I think it's kind of gross. I didn't even have anything in mind because I guess I subscribe to the binary system (attractive or not). I honestly still don't even know what she was looking for as a response.


I'm curious why you think it's gross? It's just a way of referencing someone's attractiveness compared to the average person.

It seems kind of dehumanizing. I don't look at a girl and say "hmm I like her but she is only a 7, I can only be seen with 8+" I just find certain people attractive and certain ones not attractive. Maybe I am in the minority here.

Also I don't really think it is a reference to the average person. If I had to guess I'd say most people would give their partners a 7/10.


I agree that passing judgements based on an arbitrary number scale would be shallow and 'gross', but how is it different than saying in your binary system that the person is a 0 and you only date 1's?
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 00:04:58
February 05 2014 23:58 GMT
#7998
In that situation I may say: I rate you at 0 for asking such a dumb question or dismiss it with "Over 9000".
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 06 2014 00:09 GMT
#7999
On February 06 2014 08:16 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:08 Chocolate wrote:
On February 06 2014 08:03 Najda wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:45 Chocolate wrote:
Yeah same. I think it's kind of gross. I didn't even have anything in mind because I guess I subscribe to the binary system (attractive or not). I honestly still don't even know what she was looking for as a response.


I'm curious why you think it's gross? It's just a way of referencing someone's attractiveness compared to the average person.

It seems kind of dehumanizing. I don't look at a girl and say "hmm I like her but she is only a 7, I can only be seen with 8+" I just find certain people attractive and certain ones not attractive. Maybe I am in the minority here.

Also I don't really think it is a reference to the average person. If I had to guess I'd say most people would give their partners a 7/10.


I agree that passing judgements based on an arbitrary number scale would be shallow and 'gross', but how is it different than saying in your binary system that the person is a 0 and you only date 1's?

If I had to say, a system of 0's and 1's merely sorts out which ones you'd take an interest in, without diving into the details and deriving a more objectified value. It's a healthier rule of thumb than 1-10 because it puts less focus on appearance, an thinking about someone's appearance, which leaves more brainpower for being a better human being. I tend to identify with that more binary way of putting it, some girls I find cute and would like to pursue, some I don't, but I don't wanna go too much into it, because I really value the personality side of it too.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
February 06 2014 00:13 GMT
#8000
My scale is 0-2. 0 = would not date/bang. 1 = would date/bang if it was easy. 2 = would date/bang even if I had to put in a lot of energy.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
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