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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 04 2014 18:29 GMT
#7941
Guys, please~

On February 04 2014 21:03 SixStrings wrote:
I struck out without even trying yesterday.

Went grocery shopping, picked up a bag of veggies a girl dropped, gave it to her, smiled because it had been a good day, and instead of saying thanks she goes:

"Short guys aren't my thing". What?



I'd instantly respond "Well I guess you're in luck then. When the full moon is out I turn into a werewolf from twilight and I grow at least 6 inches!" with a wink after.

You're accepting her framing. You lost.


I would have just said something like "didn't know I had to be tall to be nice to a stranger" and walked off.

You're accepting her framing and are whiny. You lost.


Hah, what a cunt, I'd reply: "Thank god, cause chubby girls aren't my thing either"

You're accepting her framing and are insulting. You lost.


In ALL three of those cases you could add "Yeah, but..." in front of them. They all directly respond to what she's talking about and they all assume her initial statement was both true and reasonable.


Goal 1: To not accept her framing. That includes "You're short", "You're not my thing" and "I'm being bitchy to random stranger who just did something nice to me."
Goal 2: To not let a random statement like that emotionally effect us. We don't know her, she doesn't know us.
Goal 3 (optional): To make sure it comes across that her behavior is socially not acceptable.
Goal 4 (optional): To turn the situation around in a way that opens her up as a potential target.

A) *playful* "Damn that's cute. What are you doing after you're done buying all your healthy stuff?"
B) *tilt head* *serious* "Damn, you're rude." *big gesturing* "Thank you for allowing me to pick up your stuff!" *leave* (get back in if she tries to say sorry, otherwise fuck that).
C) *super uber dramatic* "What!? I just put myself and all my feelings out there, I just... I just showed you how much I'm willing to invest into our relationship and this is how you thank me? I don't even..." *roll eyes* *srs* "Why are you so rude to a random stranger doing something nice for you?"

A) Ignores her framing and pretends the alien tries to establish communication but doesn't know any better. Awkward option if she tries to one-up it afterwards, would have to continue sarcastic / ironic in that case. B) Reframes the issue, makes fun of it and makes her look stupid to random bystanders. C) Draws her frame into hilarious territory and makes her look stupid to random bystanders. If she starts to explain how she thinks you were about to try and hit on her make fun of it by asking stupid dating questions à la "Alright you got me, I was about to ask whether you're around here often. Are you around here often? What do you do for fun? I do sports and go out with my friends!" and then back to some srs mode by introducing yourself properly.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
February 04 2014 18:47 GMT
#7942
Or you could just move on. Women and men are no different in regards to there being lots of them not worth the time.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25270 Posts
February 04 2014 18:53 GMT
#7943
Haha, what farva said.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
February 04 2014 19:34 GMT
#7944
On February 05 2014 03:47 farvacola wrote:
Or you could just move on. Women and men are no different in regards to there being lots of them not worth the time.


Yep. I shook my head and got over it in about three seconds (plus the time it took me to retell my adventure on TL).
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6181 Posts
February 04 2014 19:47 GMT
#7945
Pretty much what farva said.
I think you all over-analyze things too much. Women are people just like you. There isn't some massive difference in their thought processing that differentiates them from men.
As a friend so neatly put:

'it is a thread where people mostly ask for advice from anonymous basement dwellers. the bar was set very low.'
<3
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
February 04 2014 19:49 GMT
#7946
On February 05 2014 04:47 dravernor wrote:
Pretty much what farva said.
I think you all over-analyze things too much. Women are people just like you. There isn't some massive difference in their thought processing that differentiates them from men.
As a friend so neatly put:

'it is a thread where people mostly ask for advice from anonymous basement dwellers. the bar was set very low.'

You are mostly correct, except for the fact that in the game of courting women are not like men and do not like and do the same things. And this applies to about every single animal species
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MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 20:27:11
February 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#7947
Didnt have the time to talk to her today due to quiz. However she asked to borrow a pencil. Is that the equivalent of asking for the D?

+ Show Spoiler +
jkjk


Has anyone told you cloud tha you are just a ball of fucking sunshine?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 21:23:52
February 04 2014 21:16 GMT
#7948
@r.Evo - Youre assuming I want to play her game. If I do something nice for someone and they say something like that to me, I'll say something right back and go on with my day. If some bitch (and yes, she qualifies as a bitch in my book) wants to be rude when I do something nice for a random stranger, I want no part of that. I'd look elsewhere to get my dick wet.

On February 05 2014 04:47 dravernor wrote:
Pretty much what farva said.
I think you all over-analyze things too much. Women are people just like you. There isn't some massive difference in their thought processing that differentiates them from men.
As a friend so neatly put:

'it is a thread where people mostly ask for advice from anonymous basement dwellers. the bar was set very low.'

That's a mighty broad assumption your friend is making.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
February 04 2014 21:35 GMT
#7949
On February 05 2014 06:16 chadissilent wrote:

That's a mighty broad assumption your friend is making.


Alright son, time to back up the braggin'.

What is it? Are you rich? Good looking? Packing heat?
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
February 04 2014 21:36 GMT
#7950
On February 04 2014 23:58 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
do you guys really think thats what happened? Its sixstrings after all.
most likely he said he wanted to impregnate her while she calls her father or something similiar.


#1 post 2014
:-)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 04 2014 21:36 GMT
#7951
On February 05 2014 06:16 chadissilent wrote:
@r.Evo - Youre assuming I want to play her game. If I do something nice for someone and they say something like that to me, I'll say something right back and go on with my day. If some bitch (and yes, she qualifies as a bitch in my book) wants to be rude when I do something nice for a random stranger, I want no part of that. I'd look elsewhere to get my dick wet.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 04:47 dravernor wrote:
Pretty much what farva said.
I think you all over-analyze things too much. Women are people just like you. There isn't some massive difference in their thought processing that differentiates them from men.
As a friend so neatly put:

'it is a thread where people mostly ask for advice from anonymous basement dwellers. the bar was set very low.'

That's a mighty broad assumption your friend is making.

It shows more about how you view yourself by completely accepting the picture she paints. A response like that shows that it definitely hit which shouldn't be the case when it comes to a random comment from a random stranger.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 22:01:04
February 04 2014 21:58 GMT
#7952
On February 05 2014 06:36 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 06:16 chadissilent wrote:
@r.Evo - Youre assuming I want to play her game. If I do something nice for someone and they say something like that to me, I'll say something right back and go on with my day. If some bitch (and yes, she qualifies as a bitch in my book) wants to be rude when I do something nice for a random stranger, I want no part of that. I'd look elsewhere to get my dick wet.

On February 05 2014 04:47 dravernor wrote:
Pretty much what farva said.
I think you all over-analyze things too much. Women are people just like you. There isn't some massive difference in their thought processing that differentiates them from men.
As a friend so neatly put:

'it is a thread where people mostly ask for advice from anonymous basement dwellers. the bar was set very low.'

That's a mighty broad assumption your friend is making.

It shows more about how you view yourself by completely accepting the picture she paints. A response like that shows that it definitely hit which shouldn't be the case when it comes to a random comment from a random stranger.

I do nice things for random strangers when I can, without any pretense or desire to fuck them. If they want to be a bitch, cool. Good on them.

If someone insulted me when I'm trying to fuck them, ok. Game on. It's time to play.

On February 05 2014 06:35 SixStrings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 06:16 chadissilent wrote:

That's a mighty broad assumption your friend is making.


Alright son, time to back up the braggin'.

What is it? Are you rich? Good looking? Packing heat?

Maybe I'm successful, maybe I'm good looking, maybe I'm hung like a horse, maybe I'm witty yet can carry an intelligent conversation. Who knows, maybe I just have good luck. That's exactly it though, he's making a very broad assumption of many people of different ages from various backgrounds and different countries. That's an extremely broad assumption.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6181 Posts
February 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#7953
It's a joke... stereotyping the gamer into a socially inept recluse.
<3
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
February 04 2014 22:57 GMT
#7954
On February 05 2014 07:19 dravernor wrote:
It's a joke... stereotyping the gamer into a socially inept recluse.


thats exactly what i am!
rawr
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6181 Posts
February 05 2014 05:08 GMT
#7955
On February 05 2014 07:57 Maxhster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 07:19 dravernor wrote:
It's a joke... stereotyping the gamer into a socially inept recluse.


thats exactly what i am!

Yeah except that you're not I'd say you're definitely not socially inept, from my observations.
<3
MightyBill
Profile Joined October 2013
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 07:12:48
February 05 2014 07:12 GMT
#7956
On February 05 2014 00:31 SixStrings wrote:
Thanks for all the great replies, I had a few of those in my mind, ten minutes later when they were completely fucking useless.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 22:28 MightyBill wrote:
On February 04 2014 21:03 SixStrings wrote:
I struck out without even trying yesterday.

Went grocery shopping, picked up a bag of veggies a girl dropped, gave it to her, smiled because it had been a good day, and instead of saying thanks she goes:

"Short guys aren't my thing". What?


Haha if some girl would say that to me I'd instantly respond "Well I guess you're in luck then. When the full moon is out I turn into a werewolf from twilight and I grow at least 6 inches!" with a wink after. And then just walk away and tell a good story to my buddies. Too bad I'm average height :D


Excepting this one of course, that was absolutely atrocious. She would have been halfway home before I even got to the really lame part.

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 00:18 aTnClouD wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:10 h0lgr wrote:
On February 05 2014 00:03 aTnClouD wrote:
On February 04 2014 23:53 h0lgr wrote:
On February 04 2014 21:03 SixStrings wrote:
I struck out without even trying yesterday.

Went grocery shopping, picked up a bag of veggies a girl dropped, gave it to her, smiled because it had been a good day, and instead of saying thanks she goes:

"Short guys aren't my thing". What?


Hah, what a cunt, I'd reply: "Thank god, cause chubby girls aren't my thing either"
Oh no, some guy wanted to be friendly and/or thinks I'm attractive, I better insult him!

If they like you they might want to see how you react to stress and hostility

Yeah, exactly the sort of woman I'd want to avoid.

These are the tests you have to deal with if you want a woman in huge demand. Your choice


Why would you even do that to yourself?

There's two things I want from a woman: companionship (meaning having a good time together, feeling good when I'm with her, maybe sharing hobbies and making experiences) and sex. Which of these do you suppose a "hot" one would be better at than someone whose looks don't draw much attention?


Yeah that one didn't deserve a beauty price. It's the kind of stuff that I tell to crack heads to confuse them even more. :D If you ever run into that situation again you should just look at her very patiently for a few seconds, and say "here have a cucumber" and just hand her a cucumber. If she laughs at the innuendo she'd be my type of girl.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
February 05 2014 07:22 GMT
#7957
What's a good second date idea? Something that's kinda out there?

This would be much easier if it was the middle of summer, but snow covered Ohio is kind of drab and boring.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
2primenumbers
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States144 Posts
February 05 2014 07:43 GMT
#7958
So long as you're going for dates, you're probably having fine luck at dating.
o face
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17984 Posts
February 05 2014 09:26 GMT
#7959
On February 05 2014 16:22 Shotcoder wrote:
What's a good second date idea? Something that's kinda out there?

This would be much easier if it was the middle of summer, but snow covered Ohio is kind of drab and boring.

Build a snowman
Go sledding
Go skiing (no clue how far you are from mountains)

Not sure why you think snow is boring!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 05 2014 09:39 GMT
#7960
On February 05 2014 03:47 farvacola wrote:
Or you could just move on. Women and men are no different in regards to there being lots of them not worth the time.


Sometimes I just wish I could give users a permanent +1. Farva is one of those instances.
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