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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
October 25 2011 11:27 GMT
#641
just started college last month and by some miracle this one girl is (presumably at least) interested in me atm, and i feel like im beginning to reciprocate. first started with her initiating chat with me a lot on facebook but has recently evolved into us just kind of going on walks or sitting around in the dorm talking about whatever we feel like until 4am.... to the detriment of my sleeping patterns, obviously, but i dont mind. fairly sure my prospects are looking good atm, just wish i had more things to say sometimes. so self-conscious T.T
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 11:54:09
October 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#642
On October 25 2011 20:19 Sokalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 17:44 adacan wrote:
Don't usually speak to girls outside of salespeople/cashier type interactions. Although I asked some girl in my class last week how she did on her test. Would say I have an average of 4 conversations a year with girls my age, most of them being with the current girlfriend of one of my friends. Did have one girl in high school who would talk with maybe twice a year for all 4 years. She had a younger brother who did not interact with people much so I probably reminded her of him. I prefer to be alone most of the time so the thought of dating someone is not very appealing. Would like to have intelligent conversations with girls but most seem to be either stupid (no offense most people are) or smart but uninterested in intelligent conversations.


Have you considered the possibility that you're maybe coming off a wee bit condescending in your interactions, maybe, perhaps?

If you're not interested in a relationship of any sort and just searching for some "intelligent" conversation, why need it be gender specific? Most people, especially girls, aren't going to initiate conversations with something technical. Some of them even like to lead in with something intentionally silly to break the ice.


Agreed. Girls just wanna have fun. If you want to kill a conversation before it gets started, by all means keep trying from the "intelligent" conversation route, but I found most would rather be "silly" as Sokalo has already mentioned. There is a certain amount of creativity that you need to pull this off too. There are certain cues that you'll notice anyway (verbal, non-verbal, tone, etc.)

Creative might not even be the right word to use here haha...just observant.

With no power comes no responsibility?
Imize
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia14 Posts
October 25 2011 11:56 GMT
#643
I'm 17 and I've only had the one relationship, it last about 15 months before she cut it off. I'm not a bold guy generally, nor was I with this girl, but my family got the better of me. I've never really thought of myself as a family guy or anything, but when my parents split for 6 months in May of last year, I freaked out. I happened to ask her out on the day she left and I wasn't even all that attracted to her, but she was nice at the time anyway and seemed to show interest.

To me, everything seemed fine, but I was overly emotional. I'm extroverted in the why I operate, and she was introverted, so things were pretty shaky. She cared for me though and that's all I really cared about. After about 3 months she stopped showing interest, but I needed someone to help me through all the shit in my life and I had convinced myself I loved her, but in hindsight I think it was for other reasons.

After 3 months things went downhill, the slowly began to exploit the things I couldn't bring myself to resist. I'm a jealous guy, and would do anything to get her to be nice to me, but it seemed like the effort was too much at times, but I kept going. She started treating me horribly, and I was in a pretty rough state mentally with my family and her treating me in a way I wasn't used to. But I was scared and I tried everything I could for the next year to make her love me, but it rarely amounted to anything. I worry a lot and this stuff really got the better of me, It was really difficult to get up every morning and just be okay with myself as a person, as I felt as though I was to blame for the way I was being treated. Worrying sucks.

On my 1 year anniversary I bought 15 of the most beautiful roses anyone had ever seen, and bought her a white gold necklace with my own money to show my appreciation, nothing corny like a heart, just something small. On the day she showed up an hour late in the freezing cold (even in Australia) but I didn't mind. I handed her the roses and she said "I didn't want these you know." and gave them to her mum. I gave her the necklace and she seemed pretty happy, but never said thanks. I was a bit shaken up about it. After dinner and everything we came back to her house and I saw the roses in the bin. I decided to leave a little earlier than expected.

For the next 3 months I was in a wreck mentally, but fortunately my family was solid again, so I was able to cope with it. 3 months ago she broke up over the phone with me on good terms and I was alright with it. I began to pick up mentally and I was really starting to hit my stride in terms of socialising and everything. My friends started valuing me more and it was all getting good. Then she started shit talking me on her facebook page with her two other friends who had a tendency to convince her I was horrible during the relationship, let alone otherwise. But you know, I just consoled with my friends as best I could.

It doesn't really matter now and I think I've really learnt what I don't want in a person. I'm looking for another relationship, but It's mostly because I feel lonely rather than anything else, and I think I've learnt better than that.

Relationships are tricky, I'll say that much, and although I've had little experience I feel as though I had it rough during the time I was with her. But hey, I've gotten a bit better at starcraft and I'm in no hurry to be shot down mentally any time soon, regardless of the shit state my family's in again ^____^

#SilverLeagueBaller
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
October 25 2011 12:07 GMT
#644
On October 25 2011 20:53 mav451 wrote:
Agreed. Girls just wanna have fun. If you want to kill a conversation before it gets started, by all means keep trying from the "intelligent" conversation route, but I found most would rather be "silly" as Sokalo has already mentioned.


Last edit: 2011-10-25 20:54:09

I saw that.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
October 25 2011 18:02 GMT
#645
On October 23 2011 17:50 Amlitzer wrote:
I've almost been on a date once. It's the start of a new semester at college, and in one of my classes I sit next to this cute freshmen girl. I talk with her and we flirt through the whole class. After class I walk around campus with her some and I even got her phone number. After walking her back to her room I asked her if she wanted to out to dinner with me that night. She agreed which made me excited, but when I called her she wouldn't answer. I have a class at night so I had to go to that, and when I got back I got a call from her saying she was sorry she did not respond. Apparently, she was to busy eating dinner with her boyfriend and his family. The worse thing is that I have to sit next to this bitch for the rest of the semester in that class.

Seems like every girl at my university is either some shallow vapid sorority bitch who spends the whole class surfing facebook, or is some religious fundamentalist who wont even kiss before marriage.

Luck is a skill, a skill which I do not have.

Like mav451 said, maybe she was giving you visual queues you didn't pickup on at the time though some are exceptionally good at hiding and say yes to avoid (what they perceive will be) the awkward "no" moment. Personally I'd prefer they tell me to piss off at the time, no skin off my back, I'll go away and I don't waste my time, but 9/10 times if you're being observant they'll give you some queue that they really mean no. There will be something about them that seems like they're uncomfortable or not really into it at all, just don't over-analyze it or you might find reasons that aren't there not to bother...go with the gut .

If you miss it and they start playing that game, set a threshold for how many times you'll try within a period of time before saying piss on it and moving on (ex. once this day, once x days later at different time, if there's voicemail leave message with number if you didn't the first time...though most people have call display now...no answer, that's it...don't try again). I find most guys (not saying you, I had a friend I wanted to smash his cellphone so he COULDNT try again) don't know when to just let it go and forget it...99.9% of the time you'll be wasting energy.

At least she called you back that night instead of playing the long drawn out avoidance game that was cool in grade 5...onto the next .
adacan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States117 Posts
October 25 2011 18:22 GMT
#646
On October 25 2011 20:53 mav451 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 20:19 Sokalo wrote:
On October 23 2011 17:44 adacan wrote:
Don't usually speak to girls outside of salespeople/cashier type interactions. Although I asked some girl in my class last week how she did on her test. Would say I have an average of 4 conversations a year with girls my age, most of them being with the current girlfriend of one of my friends. Did have one girl in high school who would talk with maybe twice a year for all 4 years. She had a younger brother who did not interact with people much so I probably reminded her of him. I prefer to be alone most of the time so the thought of dating someone is not very appealing. Would like to have intelligent conversations with girls but most seem to be either stupid (no offense most people are) or smart but uninterested in intelligent conversations.


Have you considered the possibility that you're maybe coming off a wee bit condescending in your interactions, maybe, perhaps?

If you're not interested in a relationship of any sort and just searching for some "intelligent" conversation, why need it be gender specific? Most people, especially girls, aren't going to initiate conversations with something technical. Some of them even like to lead in with something intentionally silly to break the ice.


Agreed. Girls just wanna have fun. If you want to kill a conversation before it gets started, by all means keep trying from the "intelligent" conversation route, but I found most would rather be "silly" as Sokalo has already mentioned. There is a certain amount of creativity that you need to pull this off too. There are certain cues that you'll notice anyway (verbal, non-verbal, tone, etc.)

Creative might not even be the right word to use here haha...just observant.



Good advice, I think my situation may be a bit more complicated than normal. I am not good with talking to anyone, male or female, its been that way throughout my life. Certainly doesn't help that I have high anxiety around people. With guys however it seems I can always find a few that I can talk about shit like science, philosophy, poker, video games, politics ect. Idk small talk, joking around, being silly is so bleh. I have no interest in it at all, but most people I have encountered seem to only like that kind of interaction. Even most smart people seem to like just joking around all the time. Who knows maybe I'm half autistic?
MaliciousMirth
Profile Joined June 2011
United States96 Posts
October 25 2011 18:29 GMT
#647
Luck is a skill, a skill which I do not have.


Luck is nothing more than when preparation meets opportunity!

No matter how powerful the sorcerer, a knife between the shoulderblades will seriously cramp his style
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
October 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#648
Im gonna say this once, cuz I genuinly feel bad for alot of you posting here, but dont want to argue endlessly with anyone about my opinion so here goes.

Dating is not a matter of luck or not. Getting girls YOU WANT is not a matter of chance. Having options to choose from (and not being desperate losers) is all in your control.

Im not calling everyone here a loser. Im saying that Ive read some pretty pathetic posts, and that it actually saddens me to see them, I genuinly feel bad for those posters who I wont single out by name : (

You want chicks? You want to not be forever alone? Its not a science, its very simple.

BE ATTRACTIVE. THAT IS IT. GIRLS ARE NOT ATRRACTED TO YOU DUDE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE. AND UNLESS YOU LOOK LIKE THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTREDAME, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO BE UNATTRACTIVE OTHER THEN YOUR OWN LAZINESS. GIRLS SEE HOW YOU APPEAR, THAT IS THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION. IF YOU ARE UNATTRACTIVE, YOU COULD BE THE SWEETEST LITTLE CUPCAKE IN THE WORLD AND IT WONT MATTER. YOUR CONFIDENCE WILL SUFFER, YOUR APPEARENCE IS ALREADY SUFFERING, AND THEY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO SUFFER A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.

Steps to take:
1) Go the gym 4-6 times in a week. Learn how to excercise, learn how to lift weights. Do that. Get off your lazy butt and do it. Get in pristine shape, the best possible shape you could push yourself to.

2) Buy new clothes. Dont wear your Team Liquid limited edition headband and underwear unless youve got muscle underneath it. Wear clothes that are cool looking and fashionable.

3) Come back here and message me. I challenge ANYONE here to do what I just suggested, (getting in good shape and taking care of your looks) and show me that theyre still failing in the dating department. I guarantee you, right here right now, you will see what you have been missing all along.

Why do douchebag guys get the girls all the time? 9 times out of 10, its cuz they look good. Period.

All that confidence and swag comes with being confident in your appearence. You can be an intellectually competent dude and fellow Starcraft player, but if you look like trash the girls will keep treating you as such.

Im not trolling, and I hope you dudes seriously take what I said into consideration. I myself am personally striving to be the most attractive I can be (even though Ive been in a relationship for 8 years or so), and the increasing attention I get outside of my relationship is definetly becoming a confidence booster.

I cant believe I went for so long thinking of a billion reasons why I wasnt paid attention too. And it was as simple as that, if your ugly and unattractive why should you expect to have girls grovel for you?

Look good, and you will feel good, the ladies who start to ask YOU for time should be enough evidence of that.
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
October 25 2011 20:25 GMT
#649
Emphasis on the hunchback of Notre Dame example, I dont think a single one of you has a face so unattractive that people are repulsed on first look. Even so, when you excercise, you will lose body fat and your face will become more and more defined, resulting in a "better" looking face and wat not.

So what if your face doesnt look like Brad Pitts? Who cares, if Brad Pitt picked up an extra 165lbs he wouldnt be so pretty now would he? Good bone structure can only take you so far.

So lift weights, eat right, and do some cardio my fellow gentleman. Why let the trash chicks of the world manipulate you to their heart's content? The only reason they are capable of doing so is most likely because you have no other options and are just staying with such a trashy girl out of desperation. If you fat and disgusting to look at, it only makes sense you would be so desperate and not have other options.

If your in realtivly good shape and take care of your appearence, you will look physically num num and girls will want that num num. THEN, and only THEN, can you pick and choose among the girls who desire you to see which one fits you best personality wise.

Dont be a puppet, look good strive to look good and watch the females fall in line. Without a doubt it will happen.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 20:36:15
October 25 2011 20:34 GMT
#650
On October 26 2011 05:19 arbitrationus wrote:
Im gonna say this once, cuz I genuinly feel bad for alot of you posting here, but dont want to argue endlessly with anyone about my opinion so here goes.

Dating is not a matter of luck or not. Getting girls YOU WANT is not a matter of chance. Having options to choose from (and not being desperate losers) is all in your control.

Im not calling everyone here a loser. Im saying that Ive read some pretty pathetic posts, and that it actually saddens me to see them, I genuinly feel bad for those posters who I wont single out by name : (

You want chicks? You want to not be forever alone? Its not a science, its very simple.

BE ATTRACTIVE. THAT IS IT. GIRLS ARE NOT ATRRACTED TO YOU DUDE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE. AND UNLESS YOU LOOK LIKE THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTREDAME, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO BE UNATTRACTIVE OTHER THEN YOUR OWN LAZINESS. GIRLS SEE HOW YOU APPEAR, THAT IS THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION. IF YOU ARE UNATTRACTIVE, YOU COULD BE THE SWEETEST LITTLE CUPCAKE IN THE WORLD AND IT WONT MATTER. YOUR CONFIDENCE WILL SUFFER, YOUR APPEARENCE IS ALREADY SUFFERING, AND THEY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO SUFFER A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.

Steps to take:
1) Go the gym 4-6 times in a week. Learn how to excercise, learn how to lift weights. Do that. Get off your lazy butt and do it. Get in pristine shape, the best possible shape you could push yourself to.

2) Buy new clothes. Dont wear your Team Liquid limited edition headband and underwear unless youve got muscle underneath it. Wear clothes that are cool looking and fashionable.

3) Come back here and message me. I challenge ANYONE here to do what I just suggested, (getting in good shape and taking care of your looks) and show me that theyre still failing in the dating department. I guarantee you, right here right now, you will see what you have been missing all along.

Why do douchebag guys get the girls all the time? 9 times out of 10, its cuz they look good. Period.

All that confidence and swag comes with being confident in your appearence. You can be an intellectually competent dude and fellow Starcraft player, but if you look like trash the girls will keep treating you as such.

Im not trolling, and I hope you dudes seriously take what I said into consideration. I myself am personally striving to be the most attractive I can be (even though Ive been in a relationship for 8 years or so), and the increasing attention I get outside of my relationship is definetly becoming a confidence booster.

I cant believe I went for so long thinking of a billion reasons why I wasnt paid attention too. And it was as simple as that, if your ugly and unattractive why should you expect to have girls grovel for you?

Look good, and you will feel good, the ladies who start to ask YOU for time should be enough evidence of that.

I rarely do this, but QFT. Before a terrible, terrible injury when I was rather muscular, whether I talk about "cool" things I like/do, or "nerdy" things I like/do, it worked out decently. Have a long relationship and lose a lot of "skills" due to lack of practice? Doesn't matter. Over the past some years, the wear and tear damage of being a bit debilitated and in terrible pain consistently take their toll on your physique a bit, although i'm not too bad (it hasn't had much an effect on my 'dating life' in periods when I cared / had time for dating, so meh :S. Lately, the pain is subsiding a bit more than usual so I've been able to work out a bit more. :D
It would be nice though if nerves could heal like bones. In quite extreme cases of damage, a lot of paralyzed people wouldn't be. :/
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
October 25 2011 20:34 GMT
#651
On October 26 2011 05:25 arbitrationus wrote:
Emphasis on the hunchback of Notre Dame example, I dont think a single one of you has a face so unattractive that people are repulsed on first look. Even so, when you excercise, you will lose body fat and your face will become more and more defined, resulting in a "better" looking face and wat not.

So what if your face doesnt look like Brad Pitts? Who cares, if Brad Pitt picked up an extra 165lbs he wouldnt be so pretty now would he? Good bone structure can only take you so far.

So lift weights, eat right, and do some cardio my fellow gentleman. Why let the trash chicks of the world manipulate you to their heart's content? The only reason they are capable of doing so is most likely because you have no other options and are just staying with such a trashy girl out of desperation. If you fat and disgusting to look at, it only makes sense you would be so desperate and not have other options.

If your in realtivly good shape and take care of your appearence, you will look physically num num and girls will want that num num. THEN, and only THEN, can you pick and choose among the girls who desire you to see which one fits you best personality wise.

Dont be a puppet, look good strive to look good and watch the females fall in line. Without a doubt it will happen.


I have to go right way but I wanted to comment on this first and I'll elaborate a bit when I get back.

Simply put, yes this works, you will get attention, a lot of your 'ugliness' or whatever you think is a genetic defect of yours goes away when your body fat % drops.

However, this doesn't mean you're lined up for the perfect relationship, or find anyone nice/worth while. Defend yourself against shitstorm wrecks and worthless heartless bitches sucking you in with nothing other than their personal interests in mind. Long story short, don't be nice (be polite), don't give them the time of day unless its absolutely worth it, etc.

You can do the cutesy, i was thinking of you <3 bullshit once you're in a relationship. Until then, they're just another product on the shelf.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 25 2011 20:42 GMT
#652
On October 26 2011 03:22 adacan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 20:53 mav451 wrote:
On October 25 2011 20:19 Sokalo wrote:
On October 23 2011 17:44 adacan wrote:
Don't usually speak to girls outside of salespeople/cashier type interactions. Although I asked some girl in my class last week how she did on her test. Would say I have an average of 4 conversations a year with girls my age, most of them being with the current girlfriend of one of my friends. Did have one girl in high school who would talk with maybe twice a year for all 4 years. She had a younger brother who did not interact with people much so I probably reminded her of him. I prefer to be alone most of the time so the thought of dating someone is not very appealing. Would like to have intelligent conversations with girls but most seem to be either stupid (no offense most people are) or smart but uninterested in intelligent conversations.


Have you considered the possibility that you're maybe coming off a wee bit condescending in your interactions, maybe, perhaps?

If you're not interested in a relationship of any sort and just searching for some "intelligent" conversation, why need it be gender specific? Most people, especially girls, aren't going to initiate conversations with something technical. Some of them even like to lead in with something intentionally silly to break the ice.


Agreed. Girls just wanna have fun. If you want to kill a conversation before it gets started, by all means keep trying from the "intelligent" conversation route, but I found most would rather be "silly" as Sokalo has already mentioned. There is a certain amount of creativity that you need to pull this off too. There are certain cues that you'll notice anyway (verbal, non-verbal, tone, etc.)

Creative might not even be the right word to use here haha...just observant.



Good advice, I think my situation may be a bit more complicated than normal. I am not good with talking to anyone, male or female, its been that way throughout my life. Certainly doesn't help that I have high anxiety around people. With guys however it seems I can always find a few that I can talk about shit like science, philosophy, poker, video games, politics ect. Idk small talk, joking around, being silly is so bleh. I have no interest in it at all, but most people I have encountered seem to only like that kind of interaction. Even most smart people seem to like just joking around all the time. Who knows maybe I'm half autistic?

I really don't think you should brush it of as that is who I am (unless your happy with your situation). I used to be really silent (some of my friends even used it in my nickname jokingly). But you can change. Everything takes practice don't be afraid to say unfitting things you will notice that and stop doing it. To have intelligent conversations you need knowledge; to have knowledge you need time and common interests. I think the smart people generally use jokes etc. as a medium to get to "deep conversations"
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 20:52:30
October 25 2011 20:48 GMT
#653
On October 26 2011 05:34 Razith wrote:
However, this doesn't mean you're lined up for the perfect relationship, or find anyone nice/worth while. Defend yourself against shitstorm wrecks and worthless heartless bitches sucking you in with nothing other than their personal interests in mind. Long story short, don't be nice (be polite), don't give them the time of day unless its absolutely worth it, etc.

You can do the cutesy, i was thinking of you <3 bullshit once you're in a relationship. Until then, they're just another product on the shelf.


Definetly. Besides, that cutesy stuff is usually the side effect of desperation. Its not the real you, its the horny side of you being nice in hopes of it resulting in you getting some. Which NEVER happens.

Once you get in shape, you will see more girls talking to you, making conversation, looking at you, etc... You will see more then one girl at a time interested in you, and it will get to the point where you realize, "Hey! I can be myself!", and the real you is not cutesy and soft most times.

How do you treat your sister or your brother when your angry or upset over something? Now compare that with how you treat a member of the opposite sex in the same scenario. The difference? Confidence. You are confident to speak your mind with family, but your appearence and lack of success with girls dictates that you speak insecurely to a female that is not genetically related to you, aka a female you want to do the monkey dance with.

This sucks. Get in great shape, take care of the way you look, and you will loosen up and be yourself, its only a matter of time. Once you see the girls available, you wont pull punches as much and be a marshmellow with them.

Sure, looking good and getting more girls wont guarantee you find a great, healthy, productive relationship to be in.

But Id rather take my chances any day of the year with trial and error dating of various girls in order to find a good relationship then I would in staying at home on Starcraft 2 forever alone, fat ugly and lonely.

And since most of you are Starcraft 2 players, it only makes sense that alot of you have some semblence of a brain. Your not stupid, your just physically unattractive. If you get physically attractive, you can get girls, and once u get girls you can find one that stimulates your brain instead of just your willy wonka.

But youve got to crawl before you walk, so stop feeling bad for yourselves, stop bathing in self pity and misery, get up get a gym membership and start lifting and excercising.

You will get girls, AND you will be able to brag that your a high-plat/low diamond player haha.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:14:35
October 25 2011 21:08 GMT
#654
To be honest, quite bad. Only ever had one girlfriend and that broke up after like.... 2 days.

The only girls who have ever asked me out otherwise were people just trying to do it as a joke to make me look bad, so that when I reciporate, they'd just deny ever liking me and call me wierd or whatever.

But the story of the only gf I ever had happened like this:

Day 1 - She asks me out. I accept.

Day 2 - Me, my best mate and her meet, turns out she's invited a load of her friends too (and I mean a load), we go to the park. Now, here's how the story went.

My best mate invited a friend of mine and asked me to come along with him to meet him. I ask A (not her actual name) to accompany me too but she refuses, saying she's fine sat on the grass where she is and she'll wait for me.

I leave the park for like.... 2 minutes to meet this friend and come back with him. One of A's friends walk up to me and tell me I've been dumped and to basically get lost. I was sceptical at first but then I saw her in the distance basically making out with some other guy, decided to cut my losses and get the fuck out of there.

As for girls that genuinely show interest in me that I like, either 1 of 3 things happen:
  1. They friend-zone me and we end up talking far less.
  2. When I start to get to know them a bit better, they begin to act more distant me.
  3. There's something else like an unexpected distance gap, or other things that prevents us from seeing each other.
Trox
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden20 Posts
October 25 2011 21:11 GMT
#655
For the first time in my whole life. I broke up with someone ELSE! But that is a story for another thread I think.

Before this, just ended, almost six year long relationship. I had 2 years with a really crazy girl. She was that kind of a girl who I think, now when I look back, was just one look away from being violently crazy :O

Anyways I spent 2 years with this girl thinking she was a bit weird but accepted it because my heart(Penis) thought I could change her and be cool at the same time.... wait.. what the fuck am I writing about her for? I just broke up with one of my best friends. Keep on fighting guys and gals
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:41:55
October 25 2011 21:31 GMT
#656
On October 26 2011 05:19 arbitrationus wrote:
Im gonna say this once, cuz I genuinly feel bad for alot of you posting here, but dont want to argue endlessly with anyone about my opinion so here goes.

Dating is not a matter of luck or not. Getting girls YOU WANT is not a matter of chance. Having options to choose from (and not being desperate losers) is all in your control.

Im not calling everyone here a loser. Im saying that Ive read some pretty pathetic posts, and that it actually saddens me to see them, I genuinly feel bad for those posters who I wont single out by name : (

You want chicks? You want to not be forever alone? Its not a science, its very simple.

BE ATTRACTIVE. THAT IS IT. GIRLS ARE NOT ATRRACTED TO YOU DUDE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE. AND UNLESS YOU LOOK LIKE THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTREDAME, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO BE UNATTRACTIVE OTHER THEN YOUR OWN LAZINESS. GIRLS SEE HOW YOU APPEAR, THAT IS THEIR FIRST IMPRESSION. IF YOU ARE UNATTRACTIVE, YOU COULD BE THE SWEETEST LITTLE CUPCAKE IN THE WORLD AND IT WONT MATTER. YOUR CONFIDENCE WILL SUFFER, YOUR APPEARENCE IS ALREADY SUFFERING, AND THEY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO SUFFER A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.

Steps to take:
1) Go the gym 4-6 times in a week. Learn how to excercise, learn how to lift weights. Do that. Get off your lazy butt and do it. Get in pristine shape, the best possible shape you could push yourself to.

2) Buy new clothes. Dont wear your Team Liquid limited edition headband and underwear unless youve got muscle underneath it. Wear clothes that are cool looking and fashionable.

3) Come back here and message me. I challenge ANYONE here to do what I just suggested, (getting in good shape and taking care of your looks) and show me that theyre still failing in the dating department. I guarantee you, right here right now, you will see what you have been missing all along.

Why do douchebag guys get the girls all the time? 9 times out of 10, its cuz they look good. Period.

All that confidence and swag comes with being confident in your appearence. You can be an intellectually competent dude and fellow Starcraft player, but if you look like trash the girls will keep treating you as such.

Im not trolling, and I hope you dudes seriously take what I said into consideration. I myself am personally striving to be the most attractive I can be (even though Ive been in a relationship for 8 years or so), and the increasing attention I get outside of my relationship is definetly becoming a confidence booster.

I cant believe I went for so long thinking of a billion reasons why I wasnt paid attention too. And it was as simple as that, if your ugly and unattractive why should you expect to have girls grovel for you?

Look good, and you will feel good, the ladies who start to ask YOU for time should be enough evidence of that.

If you really want a lot of ladies, if you want to be hot, then listen to this guy. Read the post, then read it again. When you're done reading it, you pick out the most inspirational part. Then you memorize those parts, and then you memorize the others. Then you go do what he tells you to. Because it WILL make you hot and girls WILL be attracted to you.

Personally, I don't really care that much. But that's just me. I find that the girls I like the most coincidentally doesn't really care about good looks. Again though, that's just me and I would not suggest this kind of thinking to anyone else, you should go figure that out for yourself.

To anyone out there feeling disheartened: Take a good hard think about the kind of girls you would like to see yourself with. Then throw that shit out the window, because reality is a cold, hard bastard with a wicked sense of humour and he laughs his ass off when another silly human tries to plan every twist and turn of its insignificant little life. So keep on trying, be confident aaaand if you want hot ladies, expect this: They WILL be spoilt for choice, so you better be the best choice in the pile.

Oh, and clbull? Two days doesn't count as a relationship or dating, plus she was toying with you because you look either vulnerable or sheepish. Possibly both, don't ask me, you're the guy with the mirror. Some girls like to do that, and I don't find it particularly sexy. Neither should you.
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:39:58
October 25 2011 21:39 GMT
#657
On October 26 2011 06:31 DerNebel wrote:If you really want a lot of ladies, if you want to be hot, then listen to this guy. Read the post, then read it again. When you're done reading it, you pick out the most inspirational part. Then you memorize those parts, and then you memorize the others. Then you go do what he tells you to. Because it WILL make you hot and girls WILL be attracted to you.


Its hard to decipher whether or not your being sarcastic dude : (
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
October 25 2011 21:50 GMT
#658
On October 26 2011 06:39 arbitrationus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 06:31 DerNebel wrote:If you really want a lot of ladies, if you want to be hot, then listen to this guy. Read the post, then read it again. When you're done reading it, you pick out the most inspirational part. Then you memorize those parts, and then you memorize the others. Then you go do what he tells you to. Because it WILL make you hot and girls WILL be attracted to you.


Its hard to decipher whether or not your being sarcastic dude : (

It's a Schrödinger's paragraph! It's both sarcastic and not sarcastic until you go try it ou!

But really, I actually mean it. I can listen to my friends talk (the female ones you dunghead ), and most girls do like hot guys a lot more than not-hot guys. It's like the ancient law of "man is attracted to bigger breasts and better baby factories in the form of nice hips", only for people with said breasts and baby factories. So, to avoid any confusion: In the section kind sir arbitrationus quoted, I was, in fact, NOT sarcastic in any sense or understanding of either the word or concept.

That should settle it. We REALLY need a sarcasm font for these kinds of situations.
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:54:16
October 25 2011 21:51 GMT
#659
On October 26 2011 06:31 DerNebel wrote:
To anyone out there feeling disheartened: Take a good hard think about the kind of girls you would like to see yourself with. Then throw that shit out the window, because reality is a cold, hard bastard with a wicked sense of humour and he laughs his ass off when another silly human tries to plan every twist and turn of its insignificant little life. So keep on trying, be confident aaaand if you want hot ladies, expect this: They WILL be spoilt for choice, so you better be the best choice in the pile.


I think I disagree with most of what youve written here, with all due respect.

For starters, the whole "reality is a cold hearted heeby jeeby thing" is about as defeatist of an attitude as I can think of. Youve lost the battle before its even begun. My personal philosophy (again MY personal perspective) is that if life hands you lemons, you pimp slap life with those lemons and force feed that skank the most bitter lemonade he's ever suffered.

Why not take the trashy circumstances thrown your way, and turn them into the best circumstances they could possibly be through your actions? Life is not a sentient, scheming orchestrator of negativity. Life is a meaningful, purpose filled series of events whose influence is subjective and determined by the person experiencing them.

Give me one trashy scenario, and give me one determined man and one defeatist man, and to no surpise you will see two VERY different conclusions to such circumstances.

Also, telling these guys here to "be confident" when they have nothing to place that confidence in is encouraging, but not so productive. You cant fabricate confidence in the long-term, sure youll fool a few at first but in the end true colors always show. Its better to invest in something that you are truly confident in (for example, a toned attractive physique) to see results, then to hope and pray that you can maintain a false personality that emanates accomplishment when you have no evidence of accomplishing anything.

Dont fake it till you make it. Make it, and then you wont have to fake it : P

Lastly, I agree that hot ladies will be, "sploit for choice, so you better be the best choice in the pile".

However, I think a real man doesnt ask to be someone elses choice. Instead, he makes it so that he has the choice himself over which hot lady he wants "in the pile". If your a smart man, with a good looking attractive appearance to back it up, YOU hold all the cards. Enough with this submissive, defeatist, "Oh boy oh boy, I hope she picks me" attitude, my fellow gentlemen.

Invest in your bodies, take care of your appearences, and know with confidence that there are several girls thinking about you "Oh boy oh boy, I hope he picks me", instead of the other way around.
arbitrationus
Profile Joined October 2011
53 Posts
October 25 2011 21:52 GMT
#660
On October 26 2011 06:50 DerNebel wrote:
But really, I actually mean it. I can listen to my friends talk (the female ones you dunghead ), and most girls do like hot guys a lot more than not-hot guys. It's like the ancient law of "man is attracted to bigger breasts and better baby factories in the form of nice hips", only for people with said breasts and baby factories. So, to avoid any confusion: In the section kind sir arbitrationus quoted, I was, in fact, NOT sarcastic in any sense or understanding of either the word or concept.

That should settle it. We REALLY need a sarcasm font for these kinds of situations.


Love you for all eternity <3
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