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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 23:48:11
January 29 2012 23:45 GMT
#3861
Twenty Five cities.

Yesterday, Occupy Oakland moved to convert a vacant building into a community center to provide education, medical, and housing services for the 99%. Police responded with tear gas, rubber bullets, beanbag rounds and mass arrests. The State has compounded its policy of callous indifference with a ruthless display of violent repression. The Occupy movement will respond, as we have always responded: with an overwhelming show of collective resistance. Today, we take to the streets. Across the country, we will demonstrate our resolve to overcome repression, and to continue to build a better world grounded in love and solidarity for one another. All eyes on all Occupies.


Source

EDIT: Officer 119 has been identified. Robert Kirkland.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 30 2012 01:01 GMT
#3862
On January 30 2012 08:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Twenty Five cities.

Show nested quote +
Yesterday, Occupy Oakland moved to convert a vacant building into a community center to provide education, medical, and housing services for the 99%. Police responded with tear gas, rubber bullets, beanbag rounds and mass arrests. The State has compounded its policy of callous indifference with a ruthless display of violent repression. The Occupy movement will respond, as we have always responded: with an overwhelming show of collective resistance. Today, we take to the streets. Across the country, we will demonstrate our resolve to overcome repression, and to continue to build a better world grounded in love and solidarity for one another. All eyes on all Occupies.


Source

EDIT: Officer 119 has been identified. Robert Kirkland.

Occupy hwaiting!

I'm surprised the one in my city is still going. We have had some VERY cold nights.
Turn off the radio
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2012 03:27 GMT
#3863
About 15 minutes into the march, the police attempted to kettle the protesters. This march was entirely non-violent; nobody threw shit at the cops and an unlawful assembly was never declared. . This is a very important detail. The march was 1000+ strong, conservatively. The police were very mobile, using 25+ rented 10seater vans to bring the 'troops' to the march.

For their first attempt at a kettle, the cops charged the group with police lines from the front and back. They ran towards us aggressively. Us being 1000+ peaceful marching protesters. The group was forced to move up a side street. The police moved quickly to surround the entire area; they formed a line on every street that the side street connected to. Police state status: very efficient. They kettled almost the entire protest in the park near the Fox theater. AFTERWARDS, as in after they surrounded everyone, they declared it to be an unlawful assembly BUT OFFERED NO EXIT ROUTE. Gas was used (didn't hit me, could have been tear or smoke gas. If I say tear gas, like earlier, I felt it and know 100%.).

The crowd then broke down a fence that was on one side of the kettle, and 1000 people ran across a field escaping a police kettle and embarrassing the entire police force. It was literally a massive jailbreak from a kettle. The group re-took telegraph ave. and left the police way behind.

At this point, I was on edge because I knew the police were not fucking around tonight. Because of the incident earlier in the day, I realized they were effectively treating the peaceful march as a riot. There was not rioting, or intentions to riot, just dancing, optimism, hope, and walking. But clearly the police thought differently, and I knew they would try to trap us again without warning. From the moment I saw riot police running towards our march from both directions, I knew the constitution would not apply in Oakland tonight. The police made that very clear. My friends thought differently, thinking that they would not be arrested for marching. They are currently in jail.


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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
January 30 2012 03:33 GMT
#3864
I drove down town today and I guess it happened a while ago but I'm glad to see that the "Occupy Winnipeg" people are gone.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2012 03:40 GMT
#3865
Speaker urging folks not to talk with police. Someone shouts: "If you don't do anything wrong, you won't be arrested." Crowd: "Bullshit!"


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#OO tactical guy: "Don't do that shit, it's that simple. Do not run. That's when the cops start thinking we are doing shit and beat our ass"


Facilitator: "We all experienced a collective trauma yesterday, and I just want you to be aware of that. . .we are all in this together."

Nypd Chopper is now joining the march near tompkins sq pk . Circling low w lights #ows #solidaritysunday #oo #occupyoakland
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SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
January 30 2012 03:52 GMT
#3866
On January 30 2012 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
About 15 minutes into the march, the police attempted to kettle the protesters. This march was entirely non-violent; nobody threw shit at the cops and an unlawful assembly was never declared. . This is a very important detail. The march was 1000+ strong, conservatively. The police were very mobile, using 25+ rented 10seater vans to bring the 'troops' to the march.

For their first attempt at a kettle, the cops charged the group with police lines from the front and back. They ran towards us aggressively. Us being 1000+ peaceful marching protesters. The group was forced to move up a side street. The police moved quickly to surround the entire area; they formed a line on every street that the side street connected to. Police state status: very efficient. They kettled almost the entire protest in the park near the Fox theater. AFTERWARDS, as in after they surrounded everyone, they declared it to be an unlawful assembly BUT OFFERED NO EXIT ROUTE. Gas was used (didn't hit me, could have been tear or smoke gas. If I say tear gas, like earlier, I felt it and know 100%.).

The crowd then broke down a fence that was on one side of the kettle, and 1000 people ran across a field escaping a police kettle and embarrassing the entire police force. It was literally a massive jailbreak from a kettle. The group re-took telegraph ave. and left the police way behind.

At this point, I was on edge because I knew the police were not fucking around tonight. Because of the incident earlier in the day, I realized they were effectively treating the peaceful march as a riot. There was not rioting, or intentions to riot, just dancing, optimism, hope, and walking. But clearly the police thought differently, and I knew they would try to trap us again without warning. From the moment I saw riot police running towards our march from both directions, I knew the constitution would not apply in Oakland tonight. The police made that very clear. My friends thought differently, thinking that they would not be arrested for marching. They are currently in jail.


Source

Wow, that sounds terrible. Talk about a disproportionate response.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 05 2012 02:19 GMT
#3867
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 20:34:43
February 12 2012 20:33 GMT
#3868
Tea Party and Occupy protesters will be together and cooperating.

MEDFORD, OREGON – On Monday 13 February 2012 at Noon in Vogel Plaza there will be a demonstration against the passing of the NDAA, including Wake Up America Southern Oregon, and Occupy Coalition of Ashland, Medford, and Grants Pass, as well as concerned individuals across the political spectrum.

The indefinite detention clauses (sections 1021 and 1022) within this year’s National Defense Authorization Act (signed into law 31 December 2011) are a direct attack upon the civil rights of all Americans, and represent another step taken toward eroding the freedoms which lay at the foundation of our society.

The detention sections of the NDAA begin by “affirm[ing]” that the authority of the President under the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), a joint resolution passed in the immediate aftermath of the September 11th 2001 attacks, includes the power to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person “who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,” and anyone who commits a “belligerent act” against the U.S. or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, “without trial, until the end of the hostilities…”. The text also authorizes trial by military tribunal, or “transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin,” or transfer to “any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.”


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 12 2012 23:04 GMT
#3869
On February 13 2012 05:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Tea Party and Occupy protesters will be together and cooperating.

Show nested quote +
MEDFORD, OREGON – On Monday 13 February 2012 at Noon in Vogel Plaza there will be a demonstration against the passing of the NDAA, including Wake Up America Southern Oregon, and Occupy Coalition of Ashland, Medford, and Grants Pass, as well as concerned individuals across the political spectrum.

The indefinite detention clauses (sections 1021 and 1022) within this year’s National Defense Authorization Act (signed into law 31 December 2011) are a direct attack upon the civil rights of all Americans, and represent another step taken toward eroding the freedoms which lay at the foundation of our society.

The detention sections of the NDAA begin by “affirm[ing]” that the authority of the President under the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), a joint resolution passed in the immediate aftermath of the September 11th 2001 attacks, includes the power to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person “who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,” and anyone who commits a “belligerent act” against the U.S. or its coalition allies in aid of such enemy forces, under the law of war, “without trial, until the end of the hostilities…”. The text also authorizes trial by military tribunal, or “transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin,” or transfer to “any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.”


Source

Very interesting.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 08:14:08
March 05 2012 08:03 GMT
#3870
So basically the Terrorists have won, nevermind the fact the there are already numerous federal laws that already cover this. For example, the fact that you would be arrested if you even tried to get on the White House ground law or no law. This is simply paranoia.

A bill passed Monday in the US House of Representatives and Thursday in the Senate would make it a felony—a serious criminal offense punishable by lengthy terms of incarceration—to participate in many forms of protest associated with the Occupy Wall Street protests of last year. Several commentators have dubbed it the “anti-Occupy” law, but its implications are far broader.

The bill—H.R. 347, or the “Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011”—was passed by unanimous consent in the Senate, while only Ron Paul and two other Republicans voted against the bill in the House of Representatives (the bill passed 388-3). Not a single Democratic politician voted against the bill.

The virtually unanimous passage of H.R. 347 starkly exposes the fact that, despite all the posturing, the Democrats and the Republicans stand shoulder to shoulder with the corporate and financial oligarchy, which regarded last year’s popular protests against social inequality with a mixture of fear and hostility.

Among the central provisions of H.R. 347 is a section that would make it a criminal offense to “enter or remain in” an area designated as “restricted.”

The bill defines the areas that qualify as “restricted” in extremely vague and broad terms. Restricted areas can include “a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting” and “a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance.”

The Secret Service provides bodyguards not just to the US president, but to a broad layer of top figures in the political establishment, including presidential candidates and foreign dignitaries.

Even more sinister is the provision regarding events of “national significance.” What circumstances constitute events of “national significance” is left to the unbridled discretion of the Department of Homeland Security. The occasion for virtually any large protest could be designated by the Department of Homeland Security as an event of “national significance,” making any demonstrations in the vicinity illegal.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 05 2012 09:59 GMT
#3871
Heh, USA turning more and more into Police State. As I said when the Occupy protests were starting this whole deal will end only with a lot of blood (for one side or another). One side is using laws to protect themselves and only a good old revolution will change something at this moment.

When shit happens in other countries you can usually count on CIA giving help to one side or another and resolve the matter, but what and who can influence internal USA matters?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 15:33:32
March 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#3872
Your source for that article is World Socialist Web Site? Brb, finding a source that isn't hugely biased and inflammatory.

edit: This article is far less biased (IMO, center right, by the way). This isn't about just randomly restricting access to areas and arresting people; it's about giving the Secret Service the right to arrest people protesting in the areas they are protecting. While it could be used to arrest people en mass in the vicinity of the President, I don't see it happening. Over step? Probably. End of the First Amendment? Noep.
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BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
March 05 2012 15:52 GMT
#3873
On March 06 2012 00:23 ghost_403 wrote:
Your source for that article is World Socialist Web Site? Brb, finding a source that isn't hugely biased and inflammatory.

edit: This article is far less biased (IMO, center right, by the way). This isn't about just randomly restricting access to areas and arresting people; it's about giving the Secret Service the right to arrest people protesting in the areas they are protecting. While it could be used to arrest people en mass in the vicinity of the President, I don't see it happening. Over step? Probably. End of the First Amendment? Noep.



Your optimisim is misplaced
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 10 2012 20:52 GMT
#3874
On account of International Women's Day being two days ago, I found this tumblr page for Women Occupy. Now most of this looks like a spotlight on women at Occupy, like the name suggests. But seeing as there's always a lot of attempts to reroute Occupy for various other groups, I'm a little scared of the feminist side of Women Occupy.

I'm all for equality and it's great that women that agree with this movement are participating, but I think the feminists need to stay out of this. That's a separate issue if it is an issue at all.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
March 11 2012 05:49 GMT
#3875
To be fair of you look at all the chairmen and ceos of banks you have to look pretty hard to find a female. And harder tto ffind one making as much as the men its a talent industry that caused the resession and the alpha personality that is requiered to sucseed is hard to come by in non males. Its a legit argument for them but as fraqured and disjointed whatever ows's goals where I doubt they could do anything but help
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 11 2012 05:52 GMT
#3876
so, is the occupy movement essentially dead? i havent heard anything about them in months.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 11 2012 06:12 GMT
#3877
On March 11 2012 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
so, is the occupy movement essentially dead? i havent heard anything about them in months.


I would think dormant Occupy College movement started about Month ago and made the news not too long ago. Spring should be interesting.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
March 11 2012 06:14 GMT
#3878
On March 11 2012 14:49 Sermokala wrote:
To be fair of you look at all the chairmen and ceos of banks you have to look pretty hard to find a female. And harder tto ffind one making as much as the men its a talent industry that caused the resession and the alpha personality that is requiered to sucseed is hard to come by in non males. Its a legit argument for them but as fraqured and disjointed whatever ows's goals where I doubt they could do anything but help

IDK how I feel about this argument. I know for certain that women are highly sought after for duty on submarines because they tend to work better in a close environment for several months at a time than men. It seems to me that if society is ready to select women for positive careers in one area because they tend to excel more in those areas, men should also be more common in areas in which they tend to excel more than women. That being said, I think that women are under-represented in these areas. Also I'm not sure what your problem is with the "talent industry". Essentially all industries are driven by people with talent, and without that I'm not sure how much humanity would have advanced during the last 600 years. Could you explain what you mean?
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Nile505
Profile Joined August 2010
United States26 Posts
March 11 2012 06:17 GMT
#3879
really aweful that this kind of protest has to take place when that want something so simple! "This is 'merica! and der taken our jeeEbs!!!" haha
"An eye for an eye makes the world blind." Ghandi.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 11 2012 19:25 GMT
#3880
On March 11 2012 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
so, is the occupy movement essentially dead? i havent heard anything about them in months.


I wouldn't go that far. The thing is, it's old news. It's like trying to make a news story that "Obama is president." It's cool for the first few days of 2008, maybe again for inauguration, and a third time if he manages to get re-elected. But right now it won't sell because it's been like that for almost four years now.

The thing about Occupy is that they haven't made too much progress. The best way to get attention would be if they occupied the voting booths in November and voted everyone out of office, then they could say "Look we did something that will have an long-term impact!" And they're running out of places to expand.

I'd really like to see this movement pick up steam, better than the apathy we've been having for a long time now, but I think they're developing more of that "unwashed hippie" stigma and it's hurting them.
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