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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 12 2013 01:02 GMT
#4361
yeah, I definitely agree that the lack of any real marxist tradition in america is precisely why it makes strategic sense for me, as an american, to be a 'marxist'. I'm free to interpret what this means in my own context without a ton of baggage. All I have to do is refute the mccarthy strawman, which is easy enough unless I'm talking to deepelemblues, and then I get shock value out of declaring myself marxist which is precisely what americans are never supposed to be. The situation is definitely a lot different from the continent, especially france from what I understand about the intellectual climate there.

I don't really have any 'orthodox' marxists to have to distance myself from. Of course, I insist that for all true marxists, orthodoxy is heretical and heresy is orthodox (it's the unity of opposites )
shikata ga nai
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 03:26:25
March 14 2013 03:25 GMT
#4362
So the Kimani Gray candlelight is pretty much over as the NYPD arrived and have started to arrest people en masse.


#KimaniGray RT @johnknefel: 1 arrest at 35 & church

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UPDATE: Police said to be preparing "kettle nets" as arrests continue at #BrooklynProtest: http://rt.com/usa/police-flood-brooklyn-neighborhood-238/ …
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
March 30 2013 06:25 GMT
#4363
On March 14 2013 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Kimani Gray candlelight is pretty much over as the NYPD arrived and have started to arrest people en masse.


Show nested quote +
#KimaniGray RT @johnknefel: 1 arrest at 35 & church

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Show nested quote +
UPDATE: Police said to be preparing "kettle nets" as arrests continue at #BrooklynProtest: http://rt.com/usa/police-flood-brooklyn-neighborhood-238/ …


First of all, as far as I know this has nothing to do with the Occupy movement. Second of all, these protests were at times violent and led to looting/vandalism in some areas. In fact, some media outlets referred to these protests as riots, and with good reason. I don't wanna make a judgement call either way, but at least tell people the whole story.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
March 30 2013 06:31 GMT
#4364
On March 30 2013 15:25 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Kimani Gray candlelight is pretty much over as the NYPD arrived and have started to arrest people en masse.


#KimaniGray RT @johnknefel: 1 arrest at 35 & church

[image loading]


[image loading]

UPDATE: Police said to be preparing "kettle nets" as arrests continue at #BrooklynProtest: http://rt.com/usa/police-flood-brooklyn-neighborhood-238/ …


First of all, as far as I know this has nothing to do with the Occupy movement. Second of all, these protests were at times violent and led to looting/vandalism in some areas. In fact, some media outlets referred to these protests as riots, and with good reason. I don't wanna make a judgement call either way, but at least tell people the whole story.

Last I heard, things would calm down and then some people would come in from outside the neighborhood and rile people up again.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
March 30 2013 06:33 GMT
#4365
On March 30 2013 15:31 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 15:25 Tewks44 wrote:
On March 14 2013 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Kimani Gray candlelight is pretty much over as the NYPD arrived and have started to arrest people en masse.


#KimaniGray RT @johnknefel: 1 arrest at 35 & church

[image loading]


[image loading]

UPDATE: Police said to be preparing "kettle nets" as arrests continue at #BrooklynProtest: http://rt.com/usa/police-flood-brooklyn-neighborhood-238/ …


First of all, as far as I know this has nothing to do with the Occupy movement. Second of all, these protests were at times violent and led to looting/vandalism in some areas. In fact, some media outlets referred to these protests as riots, and with good reason. I don't wanna make a judgement call either way, but at least tell people the whole story.

Last I heard, things would calm down and then some people would come in from outside the neighborhood and rile people up again.


That sounds reasonable, but to say it was a candlelight vigil and ignore the fact there were reports of assault, looting, and vandalism is completely misleading.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
TerribleNoobling
Profile Joined July 2010
Azerbaijan179 Posts
March 30 2013 06:40 GMT
#4366
say's law can most accurately be described as saying supply of x constitutes demand for y.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 08 2014 20:27 GMT
#4367
New details have surfaced regarding the surveillance protocols used by Bank of America to keep tabs on social activists. Last year, Anonymous hacktivists published 14 gigabytes of private emails and spreadsheets which revealed that Bank of America was monitoring social media and other online services used by activists for basic communication. This time however, information about the bank’s recent surveillance activities were obtained legally through a public records request by a single petitioner.

The newly published documents reveal a coordinated effort by Bank of America, the Washington State Patrol (WSP), and federal counterterrorism agencies, to monitor activists as they prepared for a public demonstration in Olympia, Wash. Over 230 people originally signed up to attend the “Million Mask March” event, which was organized by the Anonymous movement and took place on November 5, 2013.

Although an official report by the WSP described the event as a “peaceful protest” being organized by activists who had made “no threats of violence,” those involved were still monitored by the department before the event took place. Information gathered about the potential protesters was then shared with Bank of America. Furthermore, Bank of America solicited information about activists from various federal agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

According to Andrew Charles Hendricks, an activist who originally acquired the documents, the emails included the home address of a demonstration organizer. Hendricks claims he redacted the address before publishing the documents online.


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