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On September 16 2011 21:15 zatic wrote:
You are set up very well. So I take it you are knowledgable in acriculture? You need that farm running long term over a bunch of frozen cows. Obviously you need to find a long term solution for the water question.
90km is plenty of distance for the zombies. We are talking more days rather than hours until the first stragglers find their way. You need to be concerned more about other survivors who want to take over your farm. That is where most of your firepower should be allocated to.
For Zombie defense you need to go for less sophisticated methods. Do you have the material to erect a stable fence? Otherwise digging a trench will help. Think medieval methods of defense over firearms. A trench does not have to keep them forever, but contain groups of zombies long enough so you can kill them with clubs from above. Similarly a fence is there for you to get safely to a distance where you can stab them to death. Can you get a bolt gun from the cattle farm? That would be the best weapon together with a fence.
This is generally good advice, and something that is really missing from the Zombie Survival guide: Guns are primarily there to be used against other survivors, NOT against the Zombies (except for emergencies obviously). It would be a huge waste to shoot zombies over cheaper methods.
That’s Good advice yeah if a few days is available to prepare then the farm could be kept running forever, got a D6 Bulldozer the size used to create roads, so that could create a good trench 4-6 foot deep at a rate of 100 metres and hour (rough estimate) OR I could create a wall, push dirt until I have a wall 5-10 foot high and keep adding to it although that would take longer probly only get 50 metres and hour making a wall. I wouldn’t know which way is better.
And yes I can grow pretty much anything not many small crops or fruit tree’s I don’t know how to grow so vegetation is no problem.
Yeah plenty of timber to create a fence maybe spikes at the top side of the trench or wall? Or have them pointing up so when they fall into the trench they get impaled? Yeah cane knives and brush hooks would be best weapons vs. zombies then, a good brush hook 4 foot handle and a 2-3 foot crescent moon blade should be enough distance If your at the top of a trench/wall
Your right about other people I would say actually once a good trench or wall is created zombies would hardly be a problem other people would be my downfall lol, could easily make a pact with neighbouring farmer and have one or two thousand head of cattle moved inside my main area that would be surrounded by a trench/wall. If the Dams are protected then that’s enough water to last 50 people 3 years even without a day of rain.
I didn’t think of not using guns on the zombies you have enlightened me it would definitely be best to use more suitable weapons on them.
Zombies I would have no problem killing but how would you tell which humans want help and which ones want to take over? Sure using a .22 or the 243 can snipe from at least a mile away but taking down some poor bastard from that far when they were not even a threat after all the horror of escaping zombies and find themselves sniped, that’s harsh lol.
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I forgot to mention what I actually have.
I've got a battle belt, with a holster on the 3:00, and 2 pistol mags on the 11:30. 9:00 is the dump pouch. 2x30 round mags, 2x20 round mags, 1x 5 round mag can fit. AK on a 3pt sling (3pt's keep your weapon in a ready position while freeing up your hands), Glock 17 in the serpa. These firearms will run forever. The AK only needs to be used against people trying to kill me, so a low round count and not having popular (in america) ammo isn't a huge deal. The 9mm is key because it gives me a fighting option down the road and 9mm is easy to find worldwide. Radio is on the 3:30.
Camelback, for water and major supplies. Bailout bag (its kind of like a cross between a duffel bag and a range bag) for other supplies. Inside it is a small pocket pistol, a little bit of water, food,painkillers and batteries CR123A and AA. Basically, If i have to I can ditch everything and survive immediately with just the bailout bag.
If you notice, I've got everything set up so I can quickly ditch or store whatever. All the fighting stuff is together and quick-releasable. The major supply stuff is all in a bag together, so I can ditch it for better mobility in an actual shooting fight, the bailout bag lets me survive if I just need to ditch everything and GTFO
Theres a bunch of other holdout stuff I have that I don't talk about JIC you guys try to gank me. But here are some thoughts. Handcuff keys? Knife placement. Somewhere discreet but easily accessible. If they frisk you, will they find everything?
I actually advise people to create a bailout bag just for emergencies in general. House burns down? Hurricane? Blizzard? You have the bare minimum basic supplies needed to survive for 24-48 hours. Why NOT put one together just in case?
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ooo i love discussing zombie apocalypse stuff! read world war Z and zombie survival guide. both pretty gud. things i would bring:
1. My good tramping boots (need a good pair since sneakers and casual shoes just won't do for every environment)
2. A decent backpack full of durable clothing.
3. A bokken (have a katana too, but it's too blunt and useless now)
4. Basic water filtration kit (this is so important)
5. My fishing rod.
Since I live about 5 mins walking distance from the beach that also acts as a harbour for a lot of sailboats i think ill get onto a boat pretty easily. And since Auckland has so many islands around it, it'll be quite easy to get around. Will probably just sail to Waiheke Island, (population 1000 or something) sit on the beach, have a brew and start fishing 
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I bring common sense and planning. But it really depends which type of zombies we are talking about, slow moving undead or mindless crazy.
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What's with all these pistols and short bladed knifes? We all know shotguns and baseball bats are the way to go. Maybe an axe if you can use one well.
Thankfully I have a lot of shotguns from competitive shooting. A lot of ammo too and i'm a good shot :D
On September 16 2011 22:02 nooboon wrote:
I bring common sense and planning. But it really depends which type of zombies we are talking about, slow moving undead or mindless crazy.
This is a good point. It's a lot different fighting Resident Evil or House of the Dead zombies than 28 days later.
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On September 16 2011 22:04 On_Slaught wrote:
What's with all these pistols and short bladed knifes? We all know shotguns and baseball bats are the way to go. Maybe an axe if you can use one well.
Shotguns are terrible for a zombie apoc. Think about it.
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Titanium Lacrosse stick is probably my best bet. Its light and sturdy so i can keep crushing heads although it isn't a defensive stick so its short. Well looks like im screwed no guns where i live.
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On September 16 2011 14:34 dAPhREAk wrote:
baseball bat and running shoes...
If you can find a black baseball cap and some large headphones then you may be able to do large damage to zombies.
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On September 16 2011 20:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I live in Sweden, we don't have weapons, on the plus side the winter would freeze them and the meat eating mooses and polar bears would probably hunt down all the zombies that were left.
But then wouldn't you have cold immune zombie polar bears and mooses?
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After I get Juggernog, I'll probably Pack a Punch my guitar, that's about it :/
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On September 16 2011 19:55 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 18:22 seroxat wrote:you guys are thinking the wrong way, as far as i know zombies cant hit air so this is where u find me in apocalypse times: ![[image loading]](http://images.idgentertainment.de/images/idgwpgsgp/bdb/2007453/300x.jpg) That's no fun. I propose a lot of these: ![[image loading]](http://www.yourstarcraft2guide.com/images/sc2helion.jpg) Line 'em up.
are zombies considered light units?
btw these should do the trick:
![[image loading]](http://www.misterhonk.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/il_fullxfull.146745560-560x373.jpg)
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Baseballbat + cyanide pill
bring it on
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On September 16 2011 22:23 Axero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 20:28 Krehlmar wrote:
I live in Sweden, we don't have weapons, on the plus side the winter would freeze them and the meat eating mooses and polar bears would probably hunt down all the zombies that were left.
But then wouldn't you have cold immune zombie polar bears and mooses?
That depends. If the virus cannot infect other animals, then it's fine. If however, it can adapt, then we'll have a shit-tonne of meat-eating zombie animals running around. And that's even if the zombies are made from a virus. If it's like a zombie curse or something, we're probably even more fucked.
But for killing zombies, I would advise against killing them with melee weapons. Beside the obvious point that the zombies get into biting range (but then again, have you ever tried to bite something that doesn't want to be bitten? It's a lot harder than it looks. On average, you'd probably need 3 men to bite a guy. 2 to hold him down, and one to bite. And if the guy can kick you away easily, maybe 5 men. Zombies are even worse. They'll just rush in to eat you. No tactics or anything, It's not effective. The human head is just not designed to attack things with the mouth), you will most likely get blood on you. Do you know if the zombie infection is carried through the blood? No, you don't. It's pretty likely that if you even have a minor cut on you, the splash back from decapitating a zombie may just infect you, and you're gone.
And with attacking zombies long range, I suggest attacking the pelvic area. You don't want to waste ammo attacking the head area, and while we can all agree that zombies do not feel pain (or just ignore it), it will still impair a zombie's movements, allowing you to cleanly cut off it's head while it's slowly crawling towards you, avoiding the blood splatter.
If you can get enough people, just get to a shopping mall with a supermarket in it hopefully in a wide-open area. You should have enough stocks to not worry about the future for a while. Just keep up regular patrols.
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On September 16 2011 22:20 dogabutila wrote:
Shotguns are terrible for a zombie apoc. Think about it.
How do you figure? I dont care what kind of zombie it is, its not surviving a blast from a 12 gauge...
Me personally, I'm holeing up on top of some sporting store with loads of ammo and preferably one inside a mall or somethign so I can have access to food as well.
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On September 16 2011 14:54 Probe1 wrote:![[image loading]](http://bestof.longislandpress.com/li/wp-content/uploads/cruisers-yachts-520-sports-coupe-sport-boat-2008.jpg) Bye.
lol nice. why have i never thought of that? but you do need to come back to land at some point for fuel, food, ect.
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I am set all the zombies cant swim so the moment there is a hint of some sort of zombie shenanigans going down i am heading right down to the docks with a fuckload of supplies and sharp weapons or a gun if i can get my hands on it an then just taking one of those sweeeeeet ass yachts and living out in the ocean eating MI GORENG and other 2 minute noodles etc. until all the zombcunts die.
+ i will be with friends and girlfriend and use the line of "we must repopulate the world" every night too stave off boredom and enjoy the sxc time.
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On September 16 2011 22:39 CaptainCrush wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 22:20 dogabutila wrote:
Shotguns are terrible for a zombie apoc. Think about it. How do you figure? I dont care what kind of zombie it is, its not surviving a blast from a 12 gauge... Me personally, I'm holeing up on top of some sporting store with loads of ammo and preferably one inside a mall or somethign so I can have access to food as well.
Probably because a shotgun has slow individual shots, and when you're facing a horde of zombies, that's not what you want. Not to mention you have to be close to a zombie to guarantee the kill.
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On September 16 2011 22:39 CaptainCrush wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 22:20 dogabutila wrote:
Shotguns are terrible for a zombie apoc. Think about it. How do you figure? I dont care what kind of zombie it is, its not surviving a blast from a 12 gauge... Me personally, I'm holeing up on top of some sporting store with loads of ammo and preferably one inside a mall or somethign so I can have access to food as well.
Tube length is good for what? 8+1? Say you got an extended tube so 10+1. Okay, you kill 11 zombies. Then what? Can you hotload faster then they can walk? Can you speed load a shotgun?
World champion speed shooters load 8 rounds in what? 4-5 seconds? Thats without zombies coming for them. A 3 second AK reload is slow, but it gives you 30 rounds. A 2 second AR reload is slow, but it gives you 30 rounds.
Think about having to move. Can you load and move at the same time? A lot easier to do with mags instead of individual shells. How many shells can you carry? Volume wise they arn't space efficient per round. Think about your plan, going to a mall? Plenty of people in a mall = plenty of zombies. Looking for a confrontation? Better be able to shoot and scoot.
Think about fighting people who want your shit. If they have rifles, then you are outgunned. If they have armor, you probably cant kill them.
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holy shit... I just had a dream about being in a zombie apocalypse O.O
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