Zombie Apocalypse - Page 7

Weapons and time: (I won’t post pictures as I am not good at it and there would be a lot sorry)
Weapons no problem over a dozen in our gun safe .22 rifle, under and over shotgun, double barrel shotgun 243 rifle just to name a few all scoped.
most all clips over 12 rounds plus chamber, 7 boxes of shotgun ammo enough to take out maybe 200? Or so Zombies, a rough estimate between 1-2000 rounds all up for rifles.
And an abundance of cane knives (2 foot handle 2 foot blade cut through a person in one swing with not to much effort google one most people I have shown one to think they are awesome lol)

So we live about 2km’s from the closest person and like I said 90km or so from major city and coast I would assume it would take at least 4-5 hours in worst case scenario for any zombies to reach the farm so 4 hours of prep time

Step 1:first We have Banana’s on the farm so we have a cooler room 30x40 foot next to a packing shed (100 foot by 40-50 foot) that is on stilts 5-6 ft off the ground so rather then stay home move into the shed and remove the steps unless there is climbing zombies problem solved for a while.

Step 2: take John Deer tractor to next farm over and kill 15-20 head of cattle and load them onto the Carryall of the tractor drive them back to shed, I would say this might take 1 minute to kill the cattle(using guns of course) and say 20 minutes to load them maybe 30 minutes, then 30 minutes to return so 1 hour to complete that.

Load all cattle into the cooler room and turn it down to -3 or -5 whatever is most optimal one bottle of gas will run it for one and a half months take gas bottles off water system and fridge that’s about 5 months or so of cold meat plus any extra gas bottles you steal from other houses, I guess at least a years worth of meat for a large family (for those of you that do not know if you get a cow cut up you get enough meat to last a 4 person family roughly 2 months)

Step 3: so the cooler room is 30x40 foot and 8 foot high and completely flat and 8 inches thick on all sides ground and roof, I assume it could most likely handle 1 foot of dirt all over its roof to plant small crops, that would probly take 2-3 hours to accomplish though, if it is plausible since you can step from the packing shed up onto the roof of the cooler room you don‘t have to go near the ground and it would be safe and more then enough fertiliser to grow anything is in the shed (4 tonnes lol)

If not at least enough banana’s are around for years, orange and mandarin tree’s around 20 of each and over 400 mango tree‘s, spend and hour picking 5-10 purple crates of each type, that would be enough fruit and meat to last at least 1 year I suppose. Plus the tree’s will forever be there so u can replenish supplies anytime.

Step 4: farm has two large dams with polythene pipe joining house and shed so pipe is already in the shed move pump from house to shed and reconnect in like 5 minutes enough water to last years, the shed has a rain tank 5000 litre if the dams become infected (problem would be finding out how and when they are infected volunteers anyone?)
I think those would be the only steps I would need to take, the biggest problem would be ammo for me probly only have enough to get say 1500 kills, say 1000 for sure in case of missing, which is very unlikely, after that its all cane knives and brush hooks which are pretty lethal and long range weapons anyway.

I guess it would take 3 hours to be completely prepared for me. if it had to be faster I could do it in 1 hour If less cattle/fruit/supplies were collected.

One problem I did not think of until just now is, the door to the cooler room is on the ground so we would have to wait until no zombies were around to get in there, it would be fine if you have 4-6 people with guns while one goes down wouldn’t it? Plus u can get enough to last a week at a time I suppose?

Realistically, not only are you trying to survive against zombies, but against other survivors. They might be trying to steal your shit. Having only melee weapons is kind of a disadvantage. Not having any and running out of bullets is also a disadvantage.

Survival is going to be based on phases. Initial outbreak, competition, long term survival.
Most people plan for just the initial outbreak. What to do when zombies happen. They don't plan on what happens when they meet up with other people. You arn't just going to trust everybody you meet right? What if they don't have supplies and shit and you do, but they have a gun and you dont? Keeping options open is important. You want to have the option of bunkering down, but you don't want to plan on that so firmly that you don't have a few good bug out plans.

How much can you carry? Lets be real here. Sure you have a shit ton of guns and food and water. You cant survive indefinably in place. At some point you have to move out when your position becomes untenable. You're going to have to judge that based on the situation. So how many bags do you have that you can carry while still allowing you to be mobile enough to run, fight, and climb?

Have a plate carrier, 15 mags and a 30lb pack? Cool, don't expect to be running from zombies though. You'd probably do better fighting hostile survivors and not in urban areas.

Kits more based on a high speed low drag mindset are going to be better at getting away from trouble, but you're probably not going to be able to fight your way out of problems, or have a lot of run ins. That and you're dependant on skills to make/find food etc.

Here are some things to think about: Eyesight. You wear contacts? How bout solution? Carrying backups? How bout glasses instead. Not quite as convenient, but they can last longer and don't require cleaning. You can sleep in them without screwing yourself up. Don't be around explosions though.

Take a perscription? Diabetes? Etc etc etc. Things to think about. Do you need them to survive? Does your plan take into account your weaknesses without them? Don't plan on getting on a boat if you need sea sick meds. They all run out. They expire. The meds you need, if they are expired will they still work at a reduced strength or will they make you sick?

Preppers and Luckers will survive the initial outbreak. After that people will have to start banding together. Competition comes into play. Who can make the better civilization? Who supports who? Who rules who? Skills make you important. Are you an engineer (civil, mech, electrical ...chem/aero isn't as important...but still any engineering skills will matter a lot)? Doctor/nurse/vet? Carpenter? SAR tracker? Soldier? Basic skills are necessary here. If you are a banker or lawyer you are useless, if you are a microbio lab researcher you are probably not useful unless you can solve zombie outbreaks. Get the picture? People skills come into play here, but are far less important the the other stuff. They are only really important if you have all the other skills to get you to this place. Can you keep a cohesive group together without having to resort to fractured democracy? Do you need to be a leader or will people tend to take charge when their specialty is needed? If you need to lead, can you?

Long term survival is more based on starting civilization up again. At some point, leftover resources are depleted and people are going to have to revert to a lifestyle without technology. Know how to make a well? Shelter? etcetcetc. People will probably figure this stuff out, or find books or something about it. But it helps to have boyscout skills and stuff like that. It will help during the initial outbreak survival in small doses here and there, and that might be enough to make you useful to a larger group and they can might keep you around.

Firearms: You need them for 2 reasons. Zombies and raiders. The problem is that what is optimal for one is not optimal for the other. If it's just going to be zombies, you can just take any old .22 and headshot all day to your hearts content. A brick of .22 weighs almost nothing and doesn't take up very much space. That same weight / space in .308 is going to amount to a lot smaller actual round count. But if you are fighting against guys trying to steal your shit who are wearing leather or denim jackets, your .22 probably isn't doing much unless you can shoot them in the face, and you probably dont want to be that close to them. In this case, you'd really rather have the .308 / .226 / whatever. Make a decision based on the situation. Remember, at some point you will have to move. What are you taking with you? Initially, your immediate worry will be zombies. Past that, you want something that will be effective against people. Once you work out your method, you probably won't need guns against zombies. Bats will work just fine.

Rifles or handguns? Rifles let you reach out and touch things. They are more accurate and have more power. They also weigh more and aren't concealable. Handguns are far harder to become proficient with. Good against people you have random disagreements with, but probably not going to be effective against actual raiders.

One thing people neglect to think about when thinking about guns, they are still mechanical devices. They need to be kept in good working order for them to be reliable. Got a 1911? Cool. A 1911 after 500 rounds and being thrown around and ground into the dirt and stuff? I wouldn't bet my life to it. If you can, get something reliable. Revolvers have a low round count and suck to reload but they are reliable. Glocks will last forever and ever. (not really but.... look here. )

Your direct impingement AR is cool and all. What happens when you cant clean it in dirty environments? My AK will keep running. Those bolt actions will keep running. Make sure your shit will work. You gonna bring cleaning kits with you? Remember, space vs weight vs utility. Why carry all this stuff to make your gun work, when you could just carry one that doesn't need all that shit.



Bladed weapons: Knives, Kitchen knives, folding knives, pocket knives, balisongs, combat knives... What do you want? Anything is better then nothing if you have to be hand to hand. You're looking for something sturdy. Balisongs and pocket folders won't hold up unless they are v. high quality. Folders take up less space, but do you trust the locks on them not to collapse / wear / lead to bad things happening down the road? Kitchen knives are sharp, but they are gonna lose the edge. You're gonna want a blade with more mass, but cleavers are kinda heavy to be swinging all day. Not to mention, carrying them is gonna suck more then other stuff. Fixed blade combat knives? Probably going to be the most useful IMO. Lets make a note here though. You probably arn't going to be using these against zombies (unless it's a last ditch survival thing) It's probably going to see use in a disagreement with other survivors when guns aren't accessible. You aren't going to use it a lot, but when you do, it's probably going to save your life. Or give you a fighting chance. There are very few scenarios where I would drop my knife//leave it behind.

Longer stuff, swords and that? Good against zombies. But try swinging it around all day. Make sure you have a good way to carry it too. I'm not a fan of these for use against zombies. I feel like a lightweight aluminum bat serves the same purpose and weighs less. The only advantage I can see is if you are fighting people without guns. That's probably a long way down the road though. There are better options for immediate survival. If it's what you have though, it's what you have. Just keep in mind you will have to make decisions based on weight, and that these are... not replaceable? but other items will serve the same purpose and will be decently common.

Alcohol. carry some with you. Don't drink it. It prevents infection. Your immune system is going to have a rough time. You're living in a western, civilized country. Your immune system isn't used you to eating not processed not perfect food. It's not used to you being stressed and running and lacking sleep and fighting and getting cuts and having to defend against infection vectors all over your body. Alcohol can kill bacteria to prevent infections. It hurts like a bitch, but it's better then dying. Usually. You could always drink a whole bunch and then kill yourself if you want.

Water. It's heavy. Its very necessary, but so is the other stuff you are going to need. Carrying a lot of water is a good way to make sure you don't have enough other stuff. How are you carrying it? Bottled water is inefficient for space and volume. Canteens are better, but they make sloshing sounds. I'm going to recommend camelbacks/hydropacks. Look into getting portable water filtration devices. When you are bunkered down, fill the bathtubs.

Food. Canned food, dried food, rice. Probably your best bets for when you are bunkered down. On the move? Breakfast bars, nutrition bars type of stuff is going to be the best. You're going to have to suppliment it with actual real food, but when you are on the move this stuff provides you with the energy you need in actual we are SHTF and basic nutrients. Initially you won't have to carry anything but these cause you can find food around, but later on you're going to have to learn how to smoke stuff and all that. Jerky will be valuable. obviously, whatever you eat should have some sort of redeeming value, and remember to eat the stuff that will spoil soonest first.