On September 17 2011 02:41 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I probably won't notice.. I'll just be sitting at my computer playing SC2 and BOOM some zombie will eat me despite having read all of this information. Sigh
i dont know how to get any weapons but in a year i should learn how to make weak painkillers and caffien pills that stuff has to be usefull in a zombie apocalypse :D
On September 16 2011 19:54 rhmiller907 wrote: these are basically the same design of weapons that I have. I live in Alaska and honestly think that we could handle something like this. People up here are tough and most people own a gun or guns. People up here know for the most part how to use guns. There are also 4 large military bases and many other military installations.
I would want that shottie SOOOO badly in the event of the apocalypse O_O. That's like my perfect weapon for this situation
Wtf, shotgun is the worst zombie apocalypse gun. Think about it.
Splain yourself. Shotguns are widely considered THE go to weapon for zombie protection.
You got stopping power/ splash damage/ and just plain annihilation of anything in front of the barrel.
On September 16 2011 19:54 rhmiller907 wrote: these are basically the same design of weapons that I have. I live in Alaska and honestly think that we could handle something like this. People up here are tough and most people own a gun or guns. People up here know for the most part how to use guns. There are also 4 large military bases and many other military installations.
I would want that shottie SOOOO badly in the event of the apocalypse O_O. That's like my perfect weapon for this situation
Wtf, shotgun is the worst zombie apocalypse gun. Think about it.
Splain yourself. Shotguns are widely considered THE go to weapon for zombie protection.
You got stopping power/ splash damage/ and just plain annihilation of anything in front of the barrel.
And abysmal reload times, range and accuracy.
I'd take an assault rifle on semi-auto over a shotgun any day.
Yea but when a zombie invasion happens most combat will happen in close quarters. I would imagine any long range engagements would be rare , and you would be better off not attracting attention to yourself by firing off shots while unprovoked.
An IBM Model F This thing has to weigh at least 7 pounds so it would be great for bashing zombie's heads in. IBM keyboards are also pretty bulletproof, so I would assume that it wouldn't bend or snap too soon. I do think that going up against multiple zombies at once would be a problem because it has a pretty short reach, but that's where I would just run.
Somethings one should keep in mind, when one is considering a zombieapocalypse :
-There will be damage dealt by the loss of humans who perform important tasks for the safety of a region. For example people who work at atomic power plants. This plants can't be shut down controlled without humans. Therefore one can assume that there will be nuclear incidence all over the place, depending on how quick the zombies take over it will be more or less catastrophic. Other areas with potential danger : Dams (the netherland will get a little wetter, and possible dam controlled rivers, like the colorado will change) , Chemical industry which has the potential to polute wide areas (not sure if this one really exists in reallty but it's a typical comic scenario), Big animal farms if animals are effected by the virus
- When the apocalypse starts : Depending on how much people are effected in the first 12 hours, fleeing rightaway can be very dangoures. One can assume that when people realize that a Z apocalypse is happening nearly everyone will realize in the same small timeframe. That much people fleeing out of the urban areas are a death threat even without zombies. Add zombies and you soon have a enemy army appearing out of thin air. Furthermore if sufficient people are not effected in the first 12 hours goverments and military forces will try to fight against the Zombies and if you run into them killing you just to be safe is a relative certain scenario if the situation is dire (which is somehow must be otherwise we will not end up in an apocalypse :>). Furthermore roads could be unuseable. In the western world we have so many cars per person, add panic and nothing goes anymore.
- Longterm thoughts : One can't say how such a virus that spreads all over earth is influencing plants and animals. Therefore i think food that lasts really long and is sufficient protected is the only "rellay safe" option. Sufficient protection depends on the virus and how it spreads.
- Final thoughts : I think the most likely option for a zombie apocalypse is a virus that spreads through the air. So hope that you are immun or enjoy life with a gas mask :>
On September 16 2011 19:54 rhmiller907 wrote: these are basically the same design of weapons that I have. I live in Alaska and honestly think that we could handle something like this. People up here are tough and most people own a gun or guns. People up here know for the most part how to use guns. There are also 4 large military bases and many other military installations.
I would want that shottie SOOOO badly in the event of the apocalypse O_O. That's like my perfect weapon for this situation
Wtf, shotgun is the worst zombie apocalypse gun. Think about it.
Splain yourself. Shotguns are widely considered THE go to weapon for zombie protection.
You got stopping power/ splash damage/ and just plain annihilation of anything in front of the barrel.
you run out of ammo insanely fast with shotguns, there is a longer reload time that also occurs more often and you can shoot less between reloads, generally speaking while you do have the ability to blow 1 zombie away per shot...you dont have the ability to blow them away at the same speed that they come at you in larger numbers
On September 16 2011 19:00 bo0 wrote: Something that's always bothered me about zombie apocalypse discussions is the following:
why does everyone say to head to the coast and try to survive on sea?
To me, completely uneducated when it comes to surviving apocalypses, it would seem like a much better idea to grab a hiking backpack, stuff it with food and water, grab a tent & baseball bat and head for the mountains, preferably set up camp somewhere near a fresh water source (there's plenty of small rivers I suppose). With any luck you'll have a handfull of friends with you to not go completely insane. There's no way zombies are gonna travel like 50km+ into the middle of nowhere in harsh terrain and usually cold weather.
The only problem I haven't been able to figure out, granted I'd be able to get into the situation described above, is food The only options seem hunting, fishing, gathering berries/roots/herbs or growing own crops; I have no clue how to do either. I guess I should break into a library of some sorts to find information on this? Lol I'm so dead if it ever comes to this...
See, you answered your question yourself right there.
That, and there is still a considerable risk to run into the infected. If they are of the type that wanders around searching for food eventually there will be some in the mountains too. Still, remote mountains are an excellent inland choice, if you have a way to secure a steady food supply. The sea option is just so attractive because of the virtual immunity from zombies and the possibility to raid the shores for supplies from relative safety.
The only problem i see with "the sea", boats, etc, is that tecnology in general will not last. Civilization is basically over. As the boats, cars, tools we have deteriorate and we are unable to restore them or build more we will need to fall back to precarious ways of living. No electricity, no oil. So in the end, boats are no longer an option, but also a risk. Engine breaks in the middle of the sea. GG pal.
So maybe you could use boats for the first while. But then mountains seem better i think. We have dexterty that lets us reach places that zombies cant. So we should reach a good example of such places and that also has food and water.
On September 16 2011 16:02 StarFox1 wrote: If you're thinking about using melee weapons in a zombie Apocalypse, think again. Can you imagine the physical exhaustion that would set in if you were fighting for your life for a period of time? A gun would be much more appropriate.
On September 16 2011 19:54 rhmiller907 wrote: these are basically the same design of weapons that I have. I live in Alaska and honestly think that we could handle something like this. People up here are tough and most people own a gun or guns. People up here know for the most part how to use guns. There are also 4 large military bases and many other military installations.
I would want that shottie SOOOO badly in the event of the apocalypse O_O. That's like my perfect weapon for this situation
Wtf, shotgun is the worst zombie apocalypse gun. Think about it.
Splain yourself. Shotguns are widely considered THE go to weapon for zombie protection.
You got stopping power/ splash damage/ and just plain annihilation of anything in front of the barrel.
you run out of ammo insanely fast with shotguns, there is a longer reload time that also occurs more often and you can shoot less between reloads, generally speaking while you do have the ability to blow 1 zombie away per shot...you dont have the ability to blow them away at the same speed that they come at you in larger numbers
I feel like positioning will matter more than how fast I can reload.
Personally I would rather have a shotgun and position myself so that the zombies have to funnel in to me (in the event they find me). Doorways, hallways, Windows. In those position's I don't see how an assualt rifle will have as much an impact on my survivability as a shotgun. Each blast would devastate an entire group of zombies.
Not to mention the fact that I'm not going to be accurate when running away from zombies for my life. The chances of me getting enough headshots with an assault rifle are slim to nil.
I would avoid going to the docks and coast because there is where all the prepared people are. Also I would avoid military bases. The general rule is: avoid stressed out- armed to the teeth-people. Going to the supermarket or mall doesn´t seem like a good idea because those places probably will already be filled with too many zombies. No I would probably head straight for the woods and wait for the night. Then I and my equals are going to have a blast hunting fleeing people in the dark and also get our hands on some fresh brains to eat.
On September 16 2011 16:02 StarFox1 wrote: If you're thinking about using melee weapons in a zombie Apocalypse, think again. Can you imagine the physical exhaustion that would set in if you were fighting for your life for a period of time? A gun would be much more appropriate.
On September 16 2011 19:00 bo0 wrote: Something that's always bothered me about zombie apocalypse discussions is the following:
why does everyone say to head to the coast and try to survive on sea?
To me, completely uneducated when it comes to surviving apocalypses, it would seem like a much better idea to grab a hiking backpack, stuff it with food and water, grab a tent & baseball bat and head for the mountains, preferably set up camp somewhere near a fresh water source (there's plenty of small rivers I suppose). With any luck you'll have a handfull of friends with you to not go completely insane. There's no way zombies are gonna travel like 50km+ into the middle of nowhere in harsh terrain and usually cold weather.
The only problem I haven't been able to figure out, granted I'd be able to get into the situation described above, is food The only options seem hunting, fishing, gathering berries/roots/herbs or growing own crops; I have no clue how to do either. I guess I should break into a library of some sorts to find information on this? Lol I'm so dead if it ever comes to this...
See, you answered your question yourself right there.
That, and there is still a considerable risk to run into the infected. If they are of the type that wanders around searching for food eventually there will be some in the mountains too. Still, remote mountains are an excellent inland choice, if you have a way to secure a steady food supply. The sea option is just so attractive because of the virtual immunity from zombies and the possibility to raid the shores for supplies from relative safety.
The only problem i see with "the sea", boats, etc, is that tecnology in general will not last. Civilization is basically over. As the boats, cars, tools we have deteriorate and we are unable to restore them or build more we will need to fall back to precarious ways of living. No electricity, no oil. So in the end, boats are no longer an option, but also a risk. Engine breaks in the middle of the sea. GG pal.
So maybe you could use boats for the first while. But then mountains seem better i think. We have dexterty that lets us reach places that zombies cant. So we should reach a good example of such places and that also has food and water.
well, if you think about it, its possible that the zombies have a time limit on them before their bodies just deteriorate and become unusable, im fairly certain that a good boat will last past that as for engine, i believe zatic mentioned that the boat would have sails so you would eventually get back to shore and be fine in that situation, also the mountains brings more people, and people can be just as dangerous as zombies, sometimes moreso, so with the boat you can better become isolated from pretty close to anything that will try to kill you other than a really big storm
On September 16 2011 19:54 rhmiller907 wrote: these are basically the same design of weapons that I have. I live in Alaska and honestly think that we could handle something like this. People up here are tough and most people own a gun or guns. People up here know for the most part how to use guns. There are also 4 large military bases and many other military installations.
I would want that shottie SOOOO badly in the event of the apocalypse O_O. That's like my perfect weapon for this situation
Wtf, shotgun is the worst zombie apocalypse gun. Think about it.
Splain yourself. Shotguns are widely considered THE go to weapon for zombie protection.
You got stopping power/ splash damage/ and just plain annihilation of anything in front of the barrel.
you run out of ammo insanely fast with shotguns, there is a longer reload time that also occurs more often and you can shoot less between reloads, generally speaking while you do have the ability to blow 1 zombie away per shot...you dont have the ability to blow them away at the same speed that they come at you in larger numbers
I feel like positioning will matter more than how fast I can reload.
Personally I would rather have a shotgun and position myself so that the zombies have to funnel in to me (in the event they find me). Doorways, hallways, Windows. In those position's I don't see how an assualt rifle will have as much an impact on my survivability as a shotgun. Each blast would devastate an entire group of zombies.
Not to mention the fact that I'm not going to be accurate when running away from zombies for my life. The chances of me getting enough headshots with an assault rifle are slim to nil.
well here is the problem, you cant guarantee that positioning, you are far more likely to end up in a position where you are surrounded than boxed in...well thats assuming you try to get out of cities before theyre nuked or something (if you think about it, if its an apocalypse who will take the chance and not press the red nuke button?)