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Sixotanaka
Australia191 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:16 Roe wrote: these are the good comments in these threads. do you need to be afraid and give up liberties in order to fight terrorism? "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin | ||
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homer001
493 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:43 Popss wrote: It's just sad as fuck really, you're supposed to be the good guys, so act like it. That's a pretty naive way to look at it. You're making the generalization mistake as well. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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KwarK
United States42691 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:03 Mohdoo wrote: I'm not leaving my house September 11. Call me a pussy or letting the terrorists win or some shit, but I am paranoid as fuck, and there's no way I'd risk my life. Unless you work somewhere really important I doubt your house is any safer than your usual routine. If they're willing to go after random places you might go like a store or a gym then they're equally willing to just bomb your house. Neither seem likely. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
so continue to subject yourselves to losing your constitution, spending trillions on useless wars. i doubt there was even any threat beyond hollow internet remarks. | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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LXR
357 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:01 Gorsameth wrote: My thought are this is just another haux to make people think they draconic measures taken against them and there liberties are worth the price. I don't really think it's a "hoax". 1. Are the terrorists already caught apart of the conspiracy? 2. What do these conspirators gain in making USA safer other than the protection of its people? | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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Sovern
United States312 Posts
On September 10 2011 05:01 Gorsameth wrote: My thought are this is just another haux to make people think they draconic measures taken against them and there liberties are worth the price. They are worth the price. Just like anything in life, too much of anything (freedom) is a bad thing. Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little. If you consider the governments measures Draconian I wonder what you consider Iran's government. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:25 LXR wrote: I don't really think it's a "hoax". 1. Are the terrorists already caught apart of the conspiracy? 2. What do these conspirators gain in making USA safer other than the protection of its people? remember those two wars that were for nothing but the profit of the people making "america safer" ? yea.. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:31 Destro wrote: remember those two wars that were for nothing but the profit of the people making "america safer" ? yea.. What War besides the Iraq war are we talking about? The Afghan one was legitimate, when it began at least. | ||
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rza
Canada384 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:34 rza wrote: by al quaeda u guys mean the usa right? What? | ||
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Thrasymachus725
Canada527 Posts
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Popss
Sweden176 Posts
On September 10 2011 06:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote: That's a pretty naive way to look at it. You're making the generalization mistake as well. I don't generalize or judge anyone but the U.S. state which is seperate from the individual citizen. A good example is torture. If you ask an individual to torture someone and you know with 100% certainty this will save 1,000 lives, would you do it? I would but if I was put in the same position except as a head of state and my option is to order this individual to torture this person to save 1,000 lives, would I do it? No, I need to find another way to protect those lives as if one of the objectives of my theoretical state is to protect my citizens that objective doesn't take precedence over the objective to respect human rights You can't expect people to act this principled but a state has to. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
he's one of those 9/11 truthers. (he thinks the US attacked itself) | ||
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