On August 19 2011 07:32 ChicoLopez wrote: I am an American F*&K yeah guy, but it may be too early to tell what happened. I do not watch basketball, so my opinion is largely based on a segment of some tv show (60 Min?)talking about foreign basketball players (Europe) and their style of play. According to what I saw -which was several years ago- European coaches/players had little respect for American players. They felt that they played ball like they would at some backyard tournament. They felt the Americans fouled all the time and had basically could not/would not attempt to master the "basics". They felt American players fouled, and "walked" all the time, and couldn't adjust their game. They basically fouled out.
They mentioned some "famous" American college player who came over and couldn't stay in the game because he fouled out. They talked about how they spend hours drilling players on the basics like free throws, something Americans were not as good at. They mentioned that many of the top players being drafted were Europeans. Don't know if that was the problem, or the ChiComs didn't like how the game was going. Lets see.
How dare americans play basketball the way they want to play basketball i mean who do they think they are inventors of the game? I mean come on even so it's not like american colleges moved basketball forward into the game it is today with fade away shoots and shit like dunking. Not like America has been top placers in Olympic and world championships year after year.
On August 19 2011 07:42 Telcontar wrote: It seems like one of the chinese players was called for a foul, the american player showed his displeasure by taking a swing (which the chinese player dodged), and the nearby chinese players ganged up on the american player in question. While I get that tensions were already frayed by the fact that the refs seem to have been favouring the home team, it was wrong for that GU player to take matter into his own hands.
have you seen that foul? he gives him a knee to the body. that gets you ejected, suspended, and fined in the nba. you simply don't see those fouls at any level in basketball. you know what happens here? nothing is called.
then when you get fouled like that, you shove that person off of you and say what the fuck. someone just jumped on you. what do you want to do, fall down? it's a natural reaction to shove back when someone jumps on you.
chinese player shoves him. that's ok, tempers are hot, you see it all the time in the nba with double techs. but then the other chinese player corners him, that's dangerous and that's where it gets dicey and the GT player wants to run away but the other players are trying to corner him. multiple GT players want to run away to get the fuck out of there, and the chinese team is mobbing them and trying to hit them with chairs.
you tell me what's wrong.
on top of that it's a fucking college team. you have a pro chinese team with adults beating on kids? fuck that, man. that's fucking shameful.
On August 19 2011 07:29 Destro wrote: they know its basketball right? People shit on hockey for all its fights, but hockey players stop when the ref steps in. These people acted like animals.
EDIT: WOW. I posted this seconds after the above post. Disregard this, i feel ridiculous lol
To be fair, the Referees didn't step in during that incident, and were largely blamed for the whole ordeal.
While I find this event distasteful and fighting in an international setting isn't the right thing to do, once you see four guys beating on one guy and all the Chinese players come off the sidelines the Americans had to get in there as well.
You can't sit there and watch your buddies get pummeled on; as much as it isn't right to fight, it is definitely wrong to not help out your teammates.
On August 19 2011 07:28 iCanada wrote: This reminds me a lot of the "Punch-up in Piestany" brawl between Canada and the USSR in 1987. Very similar standoff in terms of un-heard-of violence and underlying political themes involved between the two nations playing.
I was going to post this as evidence of how hockey players fight commies better!
That looked like a knee leading u pto the gtown shove, and the one writer there said it was a really rough game before that
From what I know, basketball in China is nowhere as physical as basketball in America. So I can understand why the Chinese players were upset, if they are not used to such a degree of contact. This may well have prompted the multiple foul calls though I wouldn't doubt the bias of the refs as well. It also probably didn't help that an American college team was giving them, a "pro" team, a run for their money even with the calls going in their favor. That being said, as a Chinese, I feel humiliated that a pro team would act in such a fashion over a goodwill game. Though Georgetown may have been playing "rough," the violence was clearly instigated by the Chinese player fouling the Georgetown player after he recovered the loose ball. Their actions are inexcusable.
On August 19 2011 07:42 Telcontar wrote: It seems like one of the chinese players was called for a foul, the american player showed his displeasure by taking a swing (which the chinese player dodged), and the nearby chinese players ganged up on the american player in question. While I get that tensions were already frayed by the fact that the refs seem to have been favouring the home team, it was wrong for that GU player to take matter into his own hands.
have you seen that foul? he gives him a knee to the body. that gets you ejected, suspended, and fined in the nba.
DAT EXAGGERATION
He definitely fouled the GT player but did not "knee him in the body."
On August 19 2011 07:32 ChicoLopez wrote: I am an American F*&K yeah guy, but it may be too early to tell what happened. I do not watch basketball, so my opinion is largely based on a segment of some tv show (60 Min?)talking about foreign basketball players (Europe) and their style of play. According to what I saw -which was several years ago- European coaches/players had little respect for American players. They felt that they played ball like they would at some backyard tournament. They felt the Americans fouled all the time and had basically could not/would not attempt to master the "basics". They felt American players fouled, and "walked" all the time, and couldn't adjust their game. They basically fouled out.
They mentioned some "famous" American college player who came over and couldn't stay in the game because he fouled out. They talked about how they spend hours drilling players on the basics like free throws, something Americans were not as good at. They mentioned that many of the top players being drafted were Europeans. Don't know if that was the problem, or the ChiComs didn't like how the game was going. Lets see.
How dare americans play basketball the way they want to play basketball i mean who do they think they are inventors of the game? I mean come on even so it's not like american colleges moved basketball forward into the game it is today with fade away shoots and shit like dunking. Not like America has been top placers in Olympic and world championships year after year.
i invented this game so heres the rules for everyone else while i do what i want, is what you're saying here
are you sure you dont want to try that post again
=p the point of satire which you don't seem to get is you can't complain about style from the leaders in the game, you just come across as being salty ie sore losers. The rules actually do differ league to league usually dealing with little things. But it's a competition so if you complain and you aren't the winners you're nothing more then sore losers.
On August 19 2011 07:32 ChicoLopez wrote: I am an American F*&K yeah guy, but it may be too early to tell what happened. I do not watch basketball, so my opinion is largely based on a segment of some tv show (60 Min?)talking about foreign basketball players (Europe) and their style of play. According to what I saw -which was several years ago- European coaches/players had little respect for American players. They felt that they played ball like they would at some backyard tournament. They felt the Americans fouled all the time and had basically could not/would not attempt to master the "basics". They felt American players fouled, and "walked" all the time, and couldn't adjust their game. They basically fouled out.
They mentioned some "famous" American college player who came over and couldn't stay in the game because he fouled out. They talked about how they spend hours drilling players on the basics like free throws, something Americans were not as good at. They mentioned that many of the top players being drafted were Europeans. Don't know if that was the problem, or the ChiComs didn't like how the game was going. Lets see.
How dare americans play basketball the way they want to play basketball i mean who do they think they are inventors of the game? I mean come on even so it's not like american colleges moved basketball forward into the game it is today with fade away shoots and shit like dunking. Not like America has been top placers in Olympic and world championships year after year.
how can a .ca site be bias! I mean it doesn't take into account that he lived in the US during that time and eventually became a us citizen and died in the US XD
On August 19 2011 08:08 mastergriggy wrote: Wait so the chinese team started it? I couldn't tell from the video.
It's hard to tell who stopped shoving and who started punching as they look similar but before that it was a dirty game on both sides with the ref siding on one side which only made it worse.
can't really tell how it started from that vid -.-' but there sure are a lot of people to quickly jump on to conclusions when it's obvious you can't see shit.
anyways, why is this big news fights happen all the time in hockey no1 really gives a shit
On August 19 2011 07:32 ChicoLopez wrote: I am an American F*&K yeah guy, but it may be too early to tell what happened. I do not watch basketball, so my opinion is largely based on a segment of some tv show (60 Min?)talking about foreign basketball players (Europe) and their style of play. According to what I saw -which was several years ago- European coaches/players had little respect for American players. They felt that they played ball like they would at some backyard tournament. They felt the Americans fouled all the time and had basically could not/would not attempt to master the "basics". They felt American players fouled, and "walked" all the time, and couldn't adjust their game. They basically fouled out.
They mentioned some "famous" American college player who came over and couldn't stay in the game because he fouled out. They talked about how they spend hours drilling players on the basics like free throws, something Americans were not as good at. They mentioned that many of the top players being drafted were Europeans. Don't know if that was the problem, or the ChiComs didn't like how the game was going. Lets see.
How dare americans play basketball the way they want to play basketball i mean who do they think they are inventors of the game? I mean come on even so it's not like american colleges moved basketball forward into the game it is today with fade away shoots and shit like dunking. Not like America has been top placers in Olympic and world championships year after year.
Anyways, the incident seemed pretty biased towards the Chinese team. It's hard to be surprised by it though considering the national/personal pride on the line.
Okay Ive been around awhile, and ive been noticing a trend against china? Like seriously wtf, Why do these Americans post stuff about other countries to bash them, just because their own country is failing hardcore. Seems to me all of the American team was + Show Spoiler +
Black
. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho.
On August 19 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote: Okay Ive been around awhile, and ive been noticing a trend against china? Like seriously wtf, Why do these Americans post stuff about other countries to bash them, just because their own country is failing hardcore. Seems to me all of the American team was Black. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho.
P.S Im "American" lol
Changed your spoiler to BOLD to highlight your racist shit.
On August 19 2011 08:19 HikariPrime wrote: Okay Ive been around awhile, and ive been noticing a trend against china? Like seriously wtf, Why do these Americans post stuff about other countries to bash them, just because their own country is failing hardcore. Seems to me all of the American team was + Show Spoiler +
Black
. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho.
EPT
