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HikariPrime
Profile Joined May 2011
United States122 Posts
August 18 2011 23:25 GMT
#121
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#122
On August 19 2011 08:25 HikariPrime wrote:
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.

Yeah, because NOBODY bashes America, right?
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#123
On August 19 2011 08:25 HikariPrime wrote:
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.


it's racist because you think black people are genetically inclined to instigate fights. people are bashing china because they instigated a brawl in a FRIENDLY exhibition game
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
August 18 2011 23:28 GMT
#124
Not a good conclusion for Georgetown/U.S., but what an absolute disgrace for the Chinese team. The free throw disparity was ridiculous, I have never seen anything like that. Glad my Dukies got out of there without fighting, the referee bias in that game was ludicrous as well.
R4TM
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil140 Posts
August 18 2011 23:30 GMT
#125
Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 18 2011 23:33 GMT
#126
On August 19 2011 08:30 R4TM wrote:
Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did.


Because they are the professional team, who fucking cares that they are chinese?
scribe123456
Profile Joined April 2011
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 23:36:25
August 18 2011 23:33 GMT
#127
washington post seems to have the best article that I can find on the story.


Bayi is a military team in the Chinese Basketball Association whose players serve in the Chinese army...

Some Chinese fans were incredulous. “It seemed that [the referee] was eager to the Chinese team win tonight, so the Georgetown team members were very unhappy about it,” said Zhou Ting, 26, a doctoral candidate in biology at the Chinese Academy of Science who attended both games. “I can tell the Chinese players provoked the conflict. . . .The [Bayi] basketball players have got a bad habit of revenge on every small, unfair thing in the Chinese Basketball Association. It’s a hooligan’s habit.”


but what really disappoints me is how the Chinese Websites are all censored on this story...Xinhua.com, 168.com, sina.com, nothing from them, just about VP Biden watching yesterdays game. I consider this even worse then the brawl itself.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 18 2011 23:35 GMT
#128
On August 19 2011 08:26 benjammin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 08:25 HikariPrime wrote:
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.


it's racist because you think black people are genetically inclined to instigate fights. people are bashing china because they instigated a brawl in a FRIENDLY exhibition game
He didnt say a damn thing about genetic inclination.
Wire
Profile Joined July 2009
United States494 Posts
August 18 2011 23:35 GMT
#129
hard not to let tempers flare when the team your playing with has 2x the number of fouls you have.

still, unacceptable and unsportsmanlike behavior; presents a poor international image. the players should know better than that.
"You sacced your ovie, which is great, but then you didn't watch it die, which is bad :("
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 18 2011 23:36 GMT
#130
On August 19 2011 08:30 R4TM wrote:
Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did.

Well, there's the obvious bias by the refs - but thats not really the Chinese Team, that's the Chinese overall. Specifically, what the team did wrong, was ganging up on players, using chairs as weapons (G-Town players did pick up chairs, but did not use any as weapons - One player did slam a chair into the court, but no one was within 5 feet of him), and most important to me, the Chinese Trainers (Coaching Staff) joined in the fighting. That is 100% completely unacceptable. Staff are supposed to calm players down, not engage in the fighting.

The one person who looks good in this is Coach Thompson - I think he made the right choice by instantly loading his players on the bus.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 23:48:02
August 18 2011 23:38 GMT
#131
On August 19 2011 08:30 R4TM wrote:
Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did.

On August 19 2011 08:33 scribe123456 wrote:
washington post seems to have the best article that I can find on the story.

Show nested quote +

Bayi is a military team in the Chinese Basketball Association whose players serve in the Chinese army...

Some Chinese fans were incredulous. “It seemed that [the referee] was eager to the Chinese team win tonight, so the Georgetown team members were very unhappy about it,” said Zhou Ting, 26, a doctoral candidate in biology at the Chinese Academy of Science who attended both games. “I can tell the Chinese players provoked the conflict. . . .The [Bayi] basketball players have got a bad habit of revenge on every small, unfair thing in the Chinese Basketball Association. It’s a hooligan’s habit.”


but what really disappoints me is how the Chinese Webs are all censored on this story...Xinhua.com, 168.com, sina.com, nothing from them, just about VP Biden watching yesterdays game. I consider this even worse then the brawl itself.

XD imma make a gif of the whole start just in that limited time frame, i see it as chinese player dives for loose ball, GTplayer picks it up tries to pass it, chinese player jumps up right into him(blatant fowl there right in front of a ref too) as he gets the ball out, GT player not happy with that takes a swipe at him can't tell if that is a punch slap or push, the 2 chinese players the one who was swiped at and the other one near him get in his face and push him looks like at his face with the one who wasn't swiped at starts to hit him at the back, the GT moves to get out of that and falls the rest is the brawl.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 18 2011 23:38 GMT
#132
On August 19 2011 08:35 lizzard_warish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 08:26 benjammin wrote:
On August 19 2011 08:25 HikariPrime wrote:
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.


it's racist because you think black people are genetically inclined to instigate fights. people are bashing china because they instigated a brawl in a FRIENDLY exhibition game
He didnt say a damn thing about genetic inclination.


Seems to me all of the American team was Black
. Ive been around them for awhile considering public school in America is horrible. They really are the more aggressive type to start this imho.
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
worldchrisis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States45 Posts
August 18 2011 23:38 GMT
#133
On August 19 2011 08:33 scribe123456 wrote:
washington post seems to have the best article that I can find on the story.

Show nested quote +

Bayi is a military team in the Chinese Basketball Association whose players serve in the Chinese army...

Some Chinese fans were incredulous. “It seemed that [the referee] was eager to the Chinese team win tonight, so the Georgetown team members were very unhappy about it,” said Zhou Ting, 26, a doctoral candidate in biology at the Chinese Academy of Science who attended both games. “I can tell the Chinese players provoked the conflict. . . .The [Bayi] basketball players have got a bad habit of revenge on every small, unfair thing in the Chinese Basketball Association. It’s a hooligan’s habit.”


but what really disappoints me is how the Chinese Webs are all censored on this story...Xinhua.com, 168.com, sina.com, nothing from them, just about VP Biden watching yesterdays game. I consider this even worse then the brawl itself.


Chinese media not reporting a story that shows China in a negative light in a situation involving the United States? You don't say.

And the people claiming American bias and racism on this are a joke. Nobody is saying Chinese people are evil or inherently wrong. We're saying that the Chinese ref IN THIS GAME was a biased piece of trash who clearly attempted to aid the Chinese team, and the Chinese team is a bunch of violent thugs who used their MILITARY TRAINING to beat up a bunch of 18-22 year old college students even after they were on the ground not fighting back.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 18 2011 23:40 GMT
#134
It was the second time both benches emptied in physical game marred by fouls. By halftime, Bayi had 11 fouls while Georgetown had 28.

I wonder if Bayi was getting leniency do to home turf or if Georgetown was doing most of the underhanded stuff.
twitch.tv/cratonz
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#135
On August 19 2011 08:36 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 08:30 R4TM wrote:
Why OP said that the chinese team did wrong? there's no single fact toward that point of view, such racist statement OP did.

Well, there's the obvious bias by the refs - but thats not really the Chinese Team, that's the Chinese overall. Specifically, what the team did wrong, was ganging up on players, using chairs as weapons (G-Town players did pick up chairs, but did not use any as weapons - One player did slam a chair into the court, but no one was within 5 feet of him), and most important to me, the Chinese Trainers (Coaching Staff) joined in the fighting. That is 100% completely unacceptable. Staff are supposed to calm players down, not engage in the fighting.

The one person who looks good in this is Coach Thompson - I think he made the right choice by instantly loading his players on the bus.


i just want to add that if he is anything like his dad, coach thompson is a 100% class act and i'd imagine it would take an extreme scenario (like this one) to get this kind of response from his players. that said, i'd bet they are still going to get hell for it
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 18 2011 23:42 GMT
#136
On August 19 2011 08:40 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
It was the second time both benches emptied in physical game marred by fouls. By halftime, Bayi had 11 fouls while Georgetown had 28.

I wonder if Bayi was getting leniency do to home turf or if Georgetown was doing most of the underhanded stuff.

According to all the first person reports (even chinese ones), GTown was getting called for non-fouls.
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Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
August 18 2011 23:42 GMT
#137
I wish more basketball games were like that. Might make me want to watch it lol
eSports for life.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 18 2011 23:45 GMT
#138
Yeah from the looks of it while there might have been a few Georgetown players who were really getting into the fight, basically all the Chinese were ganging up on the Hoyas. Granted it's impossible to really know what happened, but it looked like the Chinese were being a bit more aggressive in my opinion.
Sipher
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 23:49:32
August 18 2011 23:46 GMT
#139
On August 19 2011 08:25 HikariPrime wrote:
OH Im racist because everyone here is bashing China OVER and OVER again.. Right.. Im just telling the truth, if you dont like it, get off the internet.

Yes, actually you are. You are generalizing a whole race based on a handful of people you knew in school. I bet you never got to know those people and have a genuine conversation with any one of those people. This is actually a very common aspect of racism. Nobody tries to have a genuine conversation (where one person talks and the other LISTENS, and vice versa) with a race of people they have a problem with. This reinforces the person's beliefs instead of it being challenged.

YOU also generalized as everyone in this thread as bashing all Chinese people. And that is not true. People are being critical of the Chinese players in this specific video, whom are supposed to be PROFESSIONALS, and they are beating up on college kids.

Take a second to reflect on yourself there buddy, try to grow. I doubt you will take my advice and you will react in a typical defensive way, but I can hope.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 23:52:01
August 18 2011 23:49 GMT
#140
I wouldn't be so biased, claiming that it was entirely China's fault, but realize that after the American team begins to leave the floor the chinese crowd starts throwing bottles and cans at them! wtf! So I can understand your bias but I wouldn't exactly point fingers at who started it. I'm simply disgusted with the way the crowd reacted.
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