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On July 10 2011 20:54 Wodus wrote:Well thanks to your responses towards my question on sniper rifles. I, while not experienced it myself, guessed that shooting a sniper rifle in reallife has close to no connection to them in Games. Wikipedia says 8.9k $ for a M82 which seems quite expensive considering mentioned costs of various other guns in this thread ranging from 100 - 600 $ mostly. I might find all those infos on the internet but in general I would be interested in price estimates for various guns. I mean a range for instance. Just out of curiosity. Gun Ownership seems to be afairly expensive hobby to have  On a completely different note: Might be self-explanataory but is gun ownership tied to Citizenship (solely)? If I would move to the US (prolly depending on the state) lets say due to my job for 3-4 years is there any chance to purchase? OFC they would be resold before leaving the country.
You can get a quality, entry level gun, for around 200-500 bucks or so. Collector guns and exotic guns will obviously cost more. Don't fall into the trap that just because a gun looks cool it is a good gun. You see a lot of junky SKS/H&K ripoffs at gunshops, that while they look cool do not make good practical guns to use.
As far as citizenship is concerned, you must be an immigrant alien, citizen, or hold a valid hunters license, in order to own a gun in the US, so it would depend on your visa type. There may be additional rules depending on state, but it would not be too hard to get a hunters license, if you don't have the right VISA type, that is a few bucks. This page lays it out pretty clearly: http://www.vrolyk.org/guns/alien-laws.html
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About gun ownership and what kind in the US: I'm not exactly sure, it's been a while, but it's something like this:
It varies state to state, but in general any non-semi-auto shotguns (so pump action and breech only) above a certain length (ie not some snub or sawed off, those are concealed weapons), rifles, and pistols can be owned without a license. This is basically pistols, hunting/target practice rifles, and hunting/target practice shotguns. I believe now you can also own non-auto assault rifles as well.
Submarine guns, anything full-auto, shotguns under a certain length ~2 feet barrel, semi-auto shotguns, and ridiculous things like pen guns and pocket pistols, require licenses that are pretty strict. Machine guns, sniper rifles, full auto assault rifles, I'm not sure if you can get those at all? I think the idea is that you can own any kind of gun, but it gets more restrictive. It's not impossible at all, but maybe ~100 in fees and lots and lots of thorough testing (ie what guns do you own, gun ownership history, you can't just buy a mac-10 one day, you have to have like quite a few pistols and clean record, probably even more than that).
If you want one, you can get it, but you have to really want it. You can't just be angry, or goofy, or something, and just get it in a week.
Some states just straight up ban alot of these kinds of guns though. Washington DC has a unconstitional law saying no gun ownership, which is quite ridiculous, but the area suffers from high violence rates and extremely entrenched (democratic) political leadership that is quite corrupt, so nothing is going to change and laws made in gut reaction will never be removed, even if it's for the worse. Hell, we had a mayor who was caught on camera smoking crack with a prostitute, he went to jail, and then was re-elected. He's now mayor of the 8th ward - which happens to be the most destitute, drug-ridden, violent, highest murder area in DC, and it is known to suburbanite kids far and wide as the place to go to cop drugs and hookers.
Oh, and machine guns in general have to be made before a certain year, or "pre-ban". It's an odd rule, and there are millions of machine guns/novelty guns/crazy guns that were manufactured before this year, i think in the 80s somewhere, so it doesn't have much practical affect, but any new toy the military has you can't really get.
I believe the license to hold silences/short barrel shotgun/machine guns/'destructive devices' is called a Class III license. It's a few grand fee, so expect to pay between $1000 to $2500 at least.
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On July 10 2011 14:03 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that. Is there anyone you know who goes to shooting ranges? If so, you should try to tag along with them one time and go shooting... in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a gun before you have some experience shooting them.
My girlfriend used to shoot, but we don't have a gun here. That's why I didn't really think it was much of a problem :p
So I guess I'll look at getting a .22 sometime soon.
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On July 11 2011 02:34 inimenesc wrote:
One question if i may.
I heard that you are only allowed to own shotgun without a firm licence, because it is hard to hide under your coat? All other smaller/semiautomatic weapons need a licence in USA?
About myself..i would really like to own an old goodie tommygun(i had a time and still love old "mafia" times. Dont know why, but i love the gentelmenliness(if that is a word) of that area), but i think i dont have the time or money to deal with a proper firearm
In the USA? I can't speak for all the states, for California, one of the most stringent gun law states out there besides NY, there is no licensing process. For rifles and shotguns there is a small amount of paperwork, a background check, and a 10 day wait period. Besides that, there are a couple restrictions on them, such as a minimum barrel length and max magazine capacity for some models.
For handguns, besides the 10 day wait period and background check, there is a small safety quiz you have to pass. You can only buy 1 handgun every 30 days.
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On July 11 2011 03:38 Valentine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 14:03 micronesia wrote:On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that. Is there anyone you know who goes to shooting ranges? If so, you should try to tag along with them one time and go shooting... in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a gun before you have some experience shooting them. My girlfriend used to shoot, but we don't have a gun here. That's why I didn't really think it was much of a problem :p So I guess I'll look at getting a .22 sometime soon.
You can also usually rent a gun, and the NRA offers great intro gun safety and operation courses, though if your girlfriend is an experienced shooter, she could show you the ropes.
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Also since civilians were allowed to own machine guns almost a century ago, only a single murder has been committed by a legally owned machine gun - and that was by a police officer using a gun from the station.
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i own a m14 caliber but i only use it every once in a while
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Hello,
If I were to buy a gun with the purpose of target shooting in mind, what should I get? Here some of are my conditions, I live in California, I am a college student(money is an issue and can't own a handgun), and I am left eye dominant(meaning I prefer to shoot left handed).
In the future, I would like to own a Kel tec RFB, mainly for it's novel design that allows for ambidextrous firing. However, I know nothing of California's gun laws other than that they are stringent.
Thanks.
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Just a tiny question. And this is not a criticism of any kind, I just want to know, what is so fascinating about guns? I find them... interesting... but nothing beyond that. I don't really understand and this thread seemed like the best place to ask
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On July 11 2011 03:42 Belial88 wrote:
Also since civilians were allowed to own machine guns almost a century ago, only a single murder has been committed by a legally owned machine gun - and that was by a police officer using a gun from the station.
I'd love to get some sources on that, please.
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Hi, is it possible for an international student in US to buy a gun or you must be an US citizen? Thanks.
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On July 11 2011 04:23 hixhix wrote:
Hi, is it possible for an international student in US to buy a gun or you must be an US citizen? Thanks.
Best way to get a solid answer for where you are would probably just be to call a gun store and ask.
Since laws vary from state to state, they're usually the local experts.
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On July 11 2011 04:08 mordk wrote:
Just a tiny question. And this is not a criticism of any kind, I just want to know, what is so fascinating about guns? I find them... interesting... but nothing beyond that. I don't really understand and this thread seemed like the best place to ask
Wow can't you just read the thread? This question has been asked and answered several times.
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When I get out of college:
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On July 11 2011 04:08 mordk wrote:
Just a tiny question. And this is not a criticism of any kind, I just want to know, what is so fascinating about guns? I find them... interesting... but nothing beyond that. I don't really understand and this thread seemed like the best place to ask
What's so fascinating about starcraft?
They are something to collect and if you hunt around my area you need something bigger than a .223 for deer, for smaller game you need a shotgun so if you do any kind of hunting you need at least three guns. From there it's like crack and it grows.
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What are the limitations to gun ownership in Canada (aside from money I mean)?
Like what s the "best"/"more powerful" weapon you can legally own? Are some specific bullets banned? (for instance in France, it s illegal to hunt with a crossbow, but you can hunt with a bow, a gun or a rifle with a proper license)
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On July 11 2011 03:41 InvalidID wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 03:38 Valentine wrote:On July 10 2011 14:03 micronesia wrote:On July 10 2011 13:57 Valentine wrote:
I'm 19 and don't own a gun. However, I have always been interested in picking one up purely for shooting at the range. I've been wondering what kind of gun I should get, as I don't really plan on building a collection very quickly. I'm looking at getting nothing big or fancy, just a sturdy, nice rifle.
I've never shot a real gun before, and I don't intend on using it for self-protection or hunting or anything like that. Is there anyone you know who goes to shooting ranges? If so, you should try to tag along with them one time and go shooting... in my opinion it doesn't make sense to buy a gun before you have some experience shooting them. My girlfriend used to shoot, but we don't have a gun here. That's why I didn't really think it was much of a problem :p So I guess I'll look at getting a .22 sometime soon. You can also usually rent a gun, and the NRA offers great intro gun safety and operation courses, though if your girlfriend is an experienced shooter, she could show you the ropes.
Oh I didn't know about renting a gun or intro courses. That's nice, I might try that somewhere here just to have some fun soon.
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On July 11 2011 07:01 WGT-Baal wrote:
What are the limitations to gun ownership in Canada (aside from money I mean)?
Like what s the "best"/"more powerful" weapon you can legally own? Are some specific bullets banned? (for instance in France, it s illegal to hunt with a crossbow, but you can hunt with a bow, a gun or a rifle with a proper license)
Mannlicher Steyr HS50
Tracer rounds are banned as are incendary and a few others I can't remember. FMJ's are ok for ranges and lead and jSP's are ok for hunting.
We also can hunt with crossbows and bows. The only things limited are where we can shoot certain types of guns.
For now.
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Personally, even as a gun owner, I think hunting is stupid. I'm sorry, I just don't get having to sit in a tree where you can't even move or piss or drink or eat for hours on end to maybe shoot something. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad or anything, I just don't get it. I shoot birds and small game that come on to my property - it's a lot of fun. But like hardcore, actual hunting - as an economist I think buying your food is much more economic and better.
I have absolutely nothing against it. It's just, you know, not my thing. I know for a lot of gun owners it's a big part of their life, their culture, so you could say I also don't understand praying multiple times a day to allah either.
I've never understood people who go sit in a tree stand all day waiting for something to come up the game trail (although I have sat in a blind by a watering hole for about 4 hours when hunting antelope with bow). We always went into the woods and tracked/stalked the animals. If you know what you are looking for you can see signs everywhere. We also will use 1 person to push them through an area towards someone else waiting at the end. Hurray for special tactics!
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