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On July 09 2011 03:44 FagelBagel wrote:I someday wish to own a British Lee Enfield + Show Spoiler +The history of this rifle along with the Russian Mosin Nagant and German K98 is so interesting.
I almost got one of those, in excellent condition, for $175 a few years back. Unfortunately, it sold the same day, and I was going to go back the next day after my check hit.
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On July 09 2011 03:48 Sm3agol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 03:31 DoXa wrote:On July 09 2011 03:26 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 03:18 DoXa wrote:On July 09 2011 02:49 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 02:09 cUree wrote:On July 09 2011 02:00 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 00:40 bluQ wrote: Do you guys ever wonderd why everyone in this thread who doesn't post anything against guns is only from US or Canada?
User was temp banned for this post. Maybe because you don't have the first clue about responsible gun ownership, or know anyone who is a responsible gun owner? But by all means, continue to mindlessly swallow all your government's propaganda about how guns are all mass killing machines, and that normal people are just too farking stupid to own and operate them responsibly. One man with a gun can control a thousand without one. So you stick with being one of the thousand, and I'll be the guy with the gun, and we'll both be happy. I get such a sad face in these threads. So many people that would never even touch a gun because of their bias.....they are missing out on a lot of coolness. Exactly and thats why USA got the highest death toll due guns.. So explain Switzerland's gun ownership and gun death rate to me then. Guns do not = gun deaths. High crime and social unrest = gun deaths. To be honest I think it's a big difference between people who want to own a gun and people who have to store a gun at home. Sure there are "civil" guns in Switzerland too (about 600k), but they are nothing compared to the 1.2 million military guns. some numbers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violencePS: Switzerland is leading the suicides commited with guns (about 25% of all suicides). If I wanted to kill myself, a gun is the quickest and easiest way I can think of. Doesn't make it the gun's fault. If I wanted to kill myself, the lack of a gun would not stop me. sorry for OT... There's the problem. Maybe it wouldn't stop most of them, but if there's a gun around it may be easier for someone to kill himself. I fail to see the problem. We are talking about killing yourself, not others, correct? So you're saying guns should be banned because people can intentionally kill themselves easier with it? The idea of that is so ludicrous......just lol. Really? I'm not saying anything about banning stuff, please read carefully. I only showed that the number of guns in households may be related to suicides or homocides. But I don't have enough background to say wheter that's true or not.
On July 09 2011 03:40 xyl0s wrote:Pls stop derailing the thread with the anti gun talk. Since I don't have a lot of pics on this comp I will just post my favourite 2 guns that I own, Sig P210 and a Colt Anaconda. + Show Spoiler +
Is this the SIG pistol the army uses or is this some other type? because it looks really smooth and slick!
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On July 09 2011 03:31 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 03:26 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 03:18 DoXa wrote:On July 09 2011 02:49 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 02:09 cUree wrote:On July 09 2011 02:00 Sm3agol wrote:On July 09 2011 00:40 bluQ wrote: Do you guys ever wonderd why everyone in this thread who doesn't post anything against guns is only from US or Canada?
User was temp banned for this post. Maybe because you don't have the first clue about responsible gun ownership, or know anyone who is a responsible gun owner? But by all means, continue to mindlessly swallow all your government's propaganda about how guns are all mass killing machines, and that normal people are just too farking stupid to own and operate them responsibly. One man with a gun can control a thousand without one. So you stick with being one of the thousand, and I'll be the guy with the gun, and we'll both be happy. I get such a sad face in these threads. So many people that would never even touch a gun because of their bias.....they are missing out on a lot of coolness. Exactly and thats why USA got the highest death toll due guns.. So explain Switzerland's gun ownership and gun death rate to me then. Guns do not = gun deaths. High crime and social unrest = gun deaths. To be honest I think it's a big difference between people who want to own a gun and people who have to store a gun at home. Sure there are "civil" guns in Switzerland too (about 600k), but they are nothing compared to the 1.2 million military guns. some numbers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violencePS: Switzerland is leading the suicides commited with guns (about 25% of all suicides). If I wanted to kill myself, a gun is the quickest and easiest way I can think of. Doesn't make it the gun's fault. If I wanted to kill myself, the lack of a gun would not stop me. sorry for OT... There's the problem. Maybe it wouldn't stop most of them, but if there's a gun around it may be easier for someone to kill himself.
exactly this. most gun suicides involve alcohol. its because its easy and its there and you're in a state of mind where you have less inhibition and just might be pushed over the edge with opportunity lying around.
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On July 08 2011 21:15 couches wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 20:09 dogabutila wrote:On July 08 2011 20:07 edc wrote: Shit, I never knew that the Mosin Nagant is so dirt cheap. My dream gun is an AK-47, though I doubt I'll ever get one :p. However, for a pistol I want a Magnum. Those classic six-shooters look so sexy... AK types are relatively cheap if you arnt worried about quality. WASR's are like 4-500ish depending on where you are. Get one made by Arsenal and call it a day. Great quality at a relatively cheap price. As for myself, I'd rather not list what I have. But I do want a Saiga 12 some day.
Got a saiga converted by them. just as good y/y?
I did the whole debate myself, but I figured it was okay since nobody knows where I live anyways. Even if they did, there's always somebody in the house and we have a dog so it's not like they could break in and steal them.
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On July 09 2011 03:58 dogabutila wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 21:15 couches wrote:On July 08 2011 20:09 dogabutila wrote:On July 08 2011 20:07 edc wrote: Shit, I never knew that the Mosin Nagant is so dirt cheap. My dream gun is an AK-47, though I doubt I'll ever get one :p. However, for a pistol I want a Magnum. Those classic six-shooters look so sexy... AK types are relatively cheap if you arnt worried about quality. WASR's are like 4-500ish depending on where you are. Get one made by Arsenal and call it a day. Great quality at a relatively cheap price. As for myself, I'd rather not list what I have. But I do want a Saiga 12 some day. Got a saiga converted by them. just as good y/y? I did the whole debate myself, but I figured it was okay since nobody knows where I live anyways. Even if they did, there's always somebody in the house and we have a dog so it's not like they could break in and steal them.
Don't you have to store your guns in a lockable safe? I believe you're forced to do this here. You're also not allowed to have more than a certain amount of ammunition, how about in the USA?
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That card had already been played a couple times. If you had bothered to read before posting you would know that... But no, you want to be a dick.
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On July 09 2011 03:56 DoXa wrote:
Is this the SIG pistol the army uses or is this some other type? because it looks really smooth and slick!
The P210 was used by the army but since 1975 they use the SIG P220/ Pistole 75
On July 09 2011 04:24 DoXa wrote: Don't you have to store your guns in a lockable safe? I believe you're forced to do this here. You're also not allowed to have more than a certain amount of ammunition, how about in the USA?
Pls stop derailing the thread, but no, you don't have to store the guns in a lockable safe in Switzerland, you can have one loaded in your nightstand if you want
And there is also no rule on how much ammo you can keep at home.
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More pictures less arguing people!
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wJTna.jpg) We own this sissy gun (only used for firing range by my father, I usually clean it before, never fired it) Anyway, if it hasn't been clean for years will it Jam? And would it protect me if I have knowledge in using it except I have never ever shot it in my entire life?
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Well if you clean it properly before storing it and also store it right I don't think there will be a problem. Yes it could protect you but better pratice with it before, shooting isn't as easy as it looks in the movies.
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There are three guns that any person MUST own just because of the history of the weapon.
1. M1 Garand. 2. StG44 3. AK47
These three guns embody the 20th century with respect to weaponry.
That said, for personal defense, I'd get the following.
1. A solid quality 9mm, preferably a Beretta. 2. 12 gauge shotgun. 3. AK-74 with folding stock.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 09 2011 04:42 Licmyobelisk wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wJTna.jpg) We own this sissy gun (only used for firing range by my father, I usually clean it before, never fired it) Anyway, if it hasn't been clean for years will it Jam? And would it protect me if I have knowledge in using it except I have never ever shot it in my entire life?
Handguns are terrible in self-defense, especially with someone who hasn't shot one. If you want self defense, get a shotgun. You'll be more likely to hit something. With a handgun you'll probably miss because of panic.
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Don't own a gun, its not allowed here.. but I would love to go somewhere and try out some of the classic weapons such as MG-42, STG44, AK47, BAR, AR15, Mauser K98. I imagine it would feel like a piece of history, holding those weapons that enabled the society we live in now.
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On July 09 2011 04:47 0mar wrote: There are three guns that any person MUST own just because of the history of the weapon.
1. M1 Garand. 2. StG44 3. AK47
These three guns embody the 20th century with respect to weaponry.
That said, for personal defense, I'd get the following.
1. A solid quality 9mm, preferably a Beretta. 2. 12 gauge shotgun. 3. AK-74 with folding stock.
I'd actually prefer more like a 20 gauge with birdshot for home defense. Less punch, but still effective in close quarters, much less odds of destroying your property or hurting someone in the next room.
As for the beretta 9mm, yuck. I hate those. I'd prefer an XD chambered in .357 sig, loaded with hollowpoints. It takes some practice to control, but it has way better actual stopping power if the person breaking in is on meth or pcp.
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On July 09 2011 04:24 DoXa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2011 03:58 dogabutila wrote:On July 08 2011 21:15 couches wrote:On July 08 2011 20:09 dogabutila wrote:On July 08 2011 20:07 edc wrote: Shit, I never knew that the Mosin Nagant is so dirt cheap. My dream gun is an AK-47, though I doubt I'll ever get one :p. However, for a pistol I want a Magnum. Those classic six-shooters look so sexy... AK types are relatively cheap if you arnt worried about quality. WASR's are like 4-500ish depending on where you are. Get one made by Arsenal and call it a day. Great quality at a relatively cheap price. As for myself, I'd rather not list what I have. But I do want a Saiga 12 some day. Got a saiga converted by them. just as good y/y? I did the whole debate myself, but I figured it was okay since nobody knows where I live anyways. Even if they did, there's always somebody in the house and we have a dog so it's not like they could break in and steal them. Don't you have to store your guns in a lockable safe? I believe you're forced to do this here. You're also not allowed to have more than a certain amount of ammunition, how about in the USA?
No limits on amount of ammo here in the U.S. Safes and gunlocks only mandated when you have small children or something in the home. They don't have to be yours, but if anybody comes over then they have to be inaccessable. Since my family has no small children (younger brother is 20) I don't technically need a safe.
I have one though, a pistol safe. Just because I keep it loaded with one in the pipe. I also store my ammo in the top shelf of it because I don't technically keep the longarms locked, but they are considered inaccessable since there is no ammunition that a kid could gain access to. When I get more ammo it won't all fit into the safe shelf, so i'll have to reassess then.
Even so though, the pistol safe is small and kind of heavy but you could still carry it off. People steal TV's right? That and again, strictly speaking, the long guns arnt locked up.
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I dream of obtaining an AK-47 and painting it gold, then mounting it on my wall, purely because it was awesome in CoD4. If guns were allowed in Australia I'd probably have done it by now...
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On July 08 2011 13:03 susySquark wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 12:58 MaxField wrote:On July 08 2011 12:15 susySquark wrote: I'm taking a carbine class later this month. Match pistol shooting in a tactical setting is a fast growing sport. Any "assault" style rifle you see posted on these boards owned by a civilian is NOT an automatic, its functionally identical to a hunting rifle, with a different grip. In fact, many people hunt with AR's because of their reliability and easy of use. Chances are everyone posting here is a responsible gun owner who will never hurt a single human being in their entire lifetime. Not true always, it is possible for a civilian to own an automatic weapon, just ridiculously expensive, and usually not worth it, such a waste of expensive ammo. State by state it differs, I suppose. States like CA and NY its impossible for a civilian to get an automatic. Ahh i see, i know that Az i was able to get one if i wanted, but i did not have close to the amount of money to waste to get one.
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I have a taurus .380, as well as a hammerless taurus 357. I recently sold the sks i had to my friends father. I am actually looking at getting another rifle, most likely an AK because they are as much fun if not more than my sks was. the clip i had only held 9 +1 in the chamber. the reason why I want an AK is cause a friend has a silver plated kolish that weve literally put 5-600 rounds through it with absolutely no problems.
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So, a friend and I were thinking about getting some gas-pistols for fun @ the firing range. I don't need anything with "stopping power", as I don't want it for self-defense (maybe just for scare factor in case someone breaks in while I'm home lol).
I was thinking of the Walther CP99 air gun (http://www.airgundepot.com/cp99b.html). I know it doesn't count as a real gun, but I had two questions: 1. Does it do well at a shooting range? (is there accuracy over 10-20-30 yards?) 2. What happens if you fire it at someone (i think it fires pellets, but still, I'm pretty sure it will perforate the skin at least).
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