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Please stop posting that he shouldn't have invited her into his bed since that's apparently not what happened... read the OP and links BEFORE commenting.
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
July 05 2011 17:36 GMT
#161
I have a personal problem with how most western courts will deem something not guilty due to mental issues. Doing the crime is doing the crime. If he knew he had sexsomnia, not having her in the house would be the best course of action. If not rape, he is guilty of negligence causing bodily harm.
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Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 05 2011 17:37 GMT
#162
On July 06 2011 02:36 Destro wrote:
I have a personal problem with how most western courts will deem something not guilty due to mental issues. Doing the crime is doing the crime. If he knew he had sexsomnia, not having her in the house would be the best course of action. If not rape, he is guilty of negligence causing bodily harm.


Um, what if he went to bed before she even turned up?

There's far to much we don't know circumstance-wise to be making comments like this.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 05 2011 17:39 GMT
#163
On July 05 2011 23:30 Detwiler wrote:
im sorry im just not buyin it. they said rape now im pretty sure that requires penetration which means hes has to get her clothes off then get in her. she obviously is going to fight and make a bunch of noise and in all this he doesnt wake up.wife dont wake up either? oh and he has no memory of it? im just calling bullshit on this. i will take the rapist for 1000 please.

OK, you dont know shit about sleep walking apparently.

At MLG Dallas, I got up, bitchslapped hot_bid and went back to bed.

Gon (one of the oGs coaches) told me he tried to wake me when I was sleep talking/nightmare/moving around etc once, and that didnt work. So he tried shaking me, that didnt work. So he tried slapping me, that didnt work.

He told me this as an apology and I laughed and was like "LOL, I remember 0 of this". You can still function when sleepwalking, you just arent actually aware of any of it.
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oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
July 05 2011 17:40 GMT
#164
See, if Jinro and I happened to sleep in the same building one night, we might have an epic battle that neither of us would remember.
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TallMax
Profile Joined September 2009
United States131 Posts
July 05 2011 17:41 GMT
#165
On July 06 2011 02:27 Slago wrote:
I don't see a problem here, he never invited her in his bed, he suffers from an embarrassing disorder and probably doesn't make it public, and she was victim to sex against her will, and he did it unconsciously like he has before.

please do not demonize the man, who was looking after this girl and an unfortunate set of circumstances led to this, the real problem is if the person who sent her in their knows of his condition cause than maybe they could face some sort of minor charges


After reading this thread, I was going to post something almost exactly like this, thanks for pre-agreeing with me! Seriously, shit happens, poor poor girl, same for the dude. I hope she can find help for this. Props to the guys' ex's for coming through to verify that he does this shit unconsciously.
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TUski
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1258 Posts
July 05 2011 17:41 GMT
#166
On July 06 2011 02:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2011 23:30 Detwiler wrote:
im sorry im just not buyin it. they said rape now im pretty sure that requires penetration which means hes has to get her clothes off then get in her. she obviously is going to fight and make a bunch of noise and in all this he doesnt wake up.wife dont wake up either? oh and he has no memory of it? im just calling bullshit on this. i will take the rapist for 1000 please.

OK, you dont know shit about sleep walking apparently.

At MLG Dallas, I got up, bitchslapped hot_bid and went back to bed.

Gon (one of the oGs coaches) told me he tried to wake me when I was sleep talking/nightmare/moving around etc once, and that didnt work. So he tried shaking me, that didnt work. So he tried slapping me, that didnt work.

He told me this as an apology and I laughed and was like "LOL, I remember 0 of this". You can still function when sleepwalking, you just arent actually aware of any of it.


The truth comes out!

Jinro becomes a senseless rampaging gorilla when he sleeps! :O
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
July 05 2011 17:42 GMT
#167
On July 06 2011 02:36 Destro wrote:
I have a personal problem with how most western courts will deem something not guilty due to mental issues. Doing the crime is doing the crime. If he knew he had sexsomnia, not having her in the house would be the best course of action. If not rape, he is guilty of negligence causing bodily harm.


Who knows why she was there? Maybe a friend of his kids, etc. How should he expect her to come into his bed randomly?

I understand your point but it's not like he should have to start tying himself up at night.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
July 05 2011 17:52 GMT
#168
I repeat my request to UK people to post a complete version of the story.
Genjimaru
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada515 Posts
July 05 2011 17:53 GMT
#169
You would think this would be something he'd have to tell people about. If not before atleast now.
Pughy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Wales662 Posts
July 05 2011 17:55 GMT
#170
Lol I thought someone would make a thread about this, actually happened where I live^^
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 05 2011 17:57 GMT
#171
On July 06 2011 02:53 t3r.sAnkAri wrote:
You would think this would be something he'd have to tell people about. If not before atleast now.


Well everyone knows now.
Whether it was a lapse in judgement or an unfortunate miss turn, he's going to have to live out the rest of his life with this hanging over his head.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
July 05 2011 17:58 GMT
#172
Usually when you tell people that you've been known to have sex with your wife while still asleep they don't take it as a warning.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 18:08:39
July 05 2011 18:04 GMT
#173
On July 06 2011 02:58 oursblanc wrote:
Usually when you tell people that you've been known to have sex with your wife while still asleep they don't take it as a warning.


True, that. Though Penny Arcade comes to mind...

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On July 06 2011 02:34 Gnial wrote:
One thing that no one seems to have considered is that he could have told her to sleep in his bed earlier in the day, but he was asleep when she decided to exercise that option. For instance, he could have said, "my room is cooler, if you would prefer to sleep there" with the intention of sleeping somewhere else should she choose to exercise that option. Perhaps she didn't realize her room was too hot until he was already asleep and didn't want to bug him.


This wouldn't be considered a rape-worthy accusation either, and no jury on earth would consider this "beyond reasonable doubt".
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 05 2011 18:10 GMT
#174
While I can buy the sleep sex argument, I think that he should have showed better judgement in sleeping next to a 16 year old girl if he knows he sleep sexes people (since he has done it to his wife/others in the past)...I'm sure he came up with an explanation I just can't imagine it.

User was warned for this post
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 05 2011 18:12 GMT
#175
On July 06 2011 03:10 DystopiaX wrote:
While I can buy the sleep sex argument, I think that he should have showed better judgement in sleeping next to a 16 year old girl if he knows he sleep sexes people (since he has done it to his wife/others in the past)...I'm sure he came up with an explanation I just can't imagine it.


Did you even see the warning at the top?
Mordoc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States162 Posts
July 05 2011 18:14 GMT
#176
Seems like bad judgment on his part to invite her into his bed, even for good reasons.

But it seems fairly legit to get out of a rape charge, if 2 of his lovers and an expert corroborate his evidence.

Lastly, it's possible that he staged the whole thing and DID have conscious sex with her (or tried), and used his condition to get out of any charges.

User was warned for this post
nicebuffalo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States27 Posts
July 05 2011 18:15 GMT
#177
this is like if somebody intends to kill somebody its murder, but if it was an accident its manslaughter. is there a word for accidental rape?
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 18:17:59
July 05 2011 18:17 GMT
#178
On July 06 2011 03:15 nicebuffalo wrote:
this is like if somebody intends to kill somebody its murder, but if it was an accident its manslaughter. is there a word for accidental rape?


Ramslaughter?

Edit: Ramdaughter seems a bit more appropriate. Idk though.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
July 05 2011 18:18 GMT
#179
The girl probably shouldn't have gone and got in his bed.
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
July 05 2011 18:18 GMT
#180
"The girl had been staying at Mr Davies’s home in Swansea when she became ill and was told to share his bed because his room was cooler."

Alarm bells fucking ringing.
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