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On July 06 2011 04:18 Zedromas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:11 Ghostcom wrote:On July 06 2011 04:05 Zedromas wrote:
This is just absolutely astounding....... This man is a pervert and a pedophile, and he's gonna get away with this bullshit?? Your dick just happened to find a nice tight hole while you slept?? Ridiculous. I can barely hit the toilet when I'm half asleep....... Absolutely a fucking disgrace, this man needs to go to jail and spend some time with Bubba..... Age 16 = he is not a pedophile even if done intentionally... Don't be an idiot and may I suggest you do as the white box at the top says?! So even if this man was 43 years old, you'd be ok with him banging a 16 year old girl?? I don't care if the age of consent is 12 years old, anything under 18 should be jailbait if you're OVER 18, and the fact that people on TL are actually defending this sleepwalking rapist, is a little astounding to me. HE RAPED HER IN HER SLEEP. MAYBE HE WAS ASLEEP< MAYBE HE WASNT> BUT IT HAPPENED........ Does he deserve your defense?
Yes. You shouldn't be held accountable for things that you didn't choose to do. At worst it's negligent to allow the situation to happen but in this situation he didn't know she was there or cause her to be there.
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On July 06 2011 04:18 Zedromas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:11 Ghostcom wrote:On July 06 2011 04:05 Zedromas wrote:
This is just absolutely astounding....... This man is a pervert and a pedophile, and he's gonna get away with this bullshit?? Your dick just happened to find a nice tight hole while you slept?? Ridiculous. I can barely hit the toilet when I'm half asleep....... Absolutely a fucking disgrace, this man needs to go to jail and spend some time with Bubba..... Age 16 = he is not a pedophile even if done intentionally... Don't be an idiot and may I suggest you do as the white box at the top says?! So even if this man was 43 years old, you'd be ok with him banging a 16 year old girl?? I don't care if the age of consent is 12 years old, anything under 18 should be jailbait if you're OVER 18, and the fact that people on TL are actually defending this sleepwalking rapist, is a little astounding to me. HE RAPED HER IN HER SLEEP. MAYBE HE WAS ASLEEP< MAYBE HE WASNT> BUT IT HAPPENED........ Does he deserve your defense?
Please read about actus reus, voluntariness, and automatism (all easily found on wikipedia) and then come back with an informed position.
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Sexsomnia sounds like an entirely made up disease.
i don't buy it, the man is a rapist
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On July 06 2011 02:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 23:30 Detwiler wrote:
im sorry im just not buyin it. they said rape now im pretty sure that requires penetration which means hes has to get her clothes off then get in her. she obviously is going to fight and make a bunch of noise and in all this he doesnt wake up.wife dont wake up either? oh and he has no memory of it? im just calling bullshit on this. i will take the rapist for 1000 please. OK, you dont know shit about sleep walking apparently. At MLG Dallas, I got up, bitchslapped hot_bid and went back to bed. Gon (one of the oGs coaches) told me he tried to wake me when I was sleep talking/nightmare/moving around etc once, and that didnt work. So he tried shaking me, that didnt work. So he tried slapping me, that didnt work. He told me this as an apology and I laughed and was like "LOL, I remember 0 of this". You can still function when sleepwalking, you just arent actually aware of any of it. I was going to post something similar. My brother in law almost died from doing things in his sleep while people generally seem get their opinions about "sleepwalking" from comedy movies or whatever.
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The faulty person in this story is obviously the one who put a 16yo girl in the bed of a sleeping man, and it is even worse if that person knew the problem that man had while sleeping.
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On July 06 2011 04:18 Zedromas wrote:
So even if this man was 43 years old, you'd be ok with him banging a 16 year old girl?? I don't care if the age of consent is 12 years old, anything under 18 should be jailbait if you're OVER 18, and the fact that people on TL are actually defending this sleepwalking rapist, is a little astounding to me.
It would actually be completely legal in Norway, since the age of consent is 16 here ...
Also, that attitude is why 19 year olds in the US can go to jail for 5+ years for having consentual sex with 17 year olds ... which is sick.
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How is it that she did not realize she was being raped? The article says she woke and he had already had sex with her. O_o She must have been really sick.
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On July 06 2011 04:25 fire_brand wrote:
How is it that she did not realize she was being raped? The article says she woke and he had already had sex with her. O_o She must have been really sick.
Wow, I swear to God, this is my last post correcting the 50% of posters who apparently can't read.
She woke up during sex, not after.
Read the articles.
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On July 06 2011 04:25 fire_brand wrote:
How is it that she did not realize she was being raped? The article says she woke and he had already had sex with her. O_o She must have been really sick.
Some people just don't wake as easily. It can be possible to completely undress and penetrate a sleeping woman who's completely healthy at the time. She woke and panicked and most likely ran the fuck out of there immediately. I very much doubt he restrained and held her down until orgasm.
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On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else.
This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man?
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On July 06 2011 04:19 Kickboxer wrote:
Judicial proceedings should be completely revamped to look at crime from the victim's perspective instead of the criminal's. You got raped? Ok the guy is a rapist, case closed take him away.
What's up with letting go idiots and various lunatics who stab people in the face seventy two times??? Oh the poor cretin wasn't aware of his actions, how pitiful. Let's stick him into a comfy asylum so he can escape in a couple of years and bash a random dentist's head in with a hammer (true story). This system is easily one of the greatest blunders of modern civilization.
I'm a sexsomniac, too. Often times I wake up and find myself groping a sizable boner.
Because if you only take one perspective, then that perspective always wins T.T.
You got raped? Ok the guy is a rapist.
You didn't rape her? She's lying? Ok now we have a situation.
There's always two sides to a story. A very rudimentary idea that must always be taken into account, especially for very emotional situations like sexual harassment and murder. Although you are right in stating that some people do get away with things using very far fetched stories. Honestly theres no way to be certain 100 percent about what had actually happened without a completely unbiased source of information, like a camera.
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On July 06 2011 04:30 Horiz0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man?
I don't find this strange at all.
Imagine it's a big bed, not a single where you're forced to snuggle like you do with your significant other. There is a big gap between the two sides of the bed, so there is no contact going on. When I was hanging out at my cousins over a weekend to LAN. My cousin who is 24 didn't want to drive all the way to his apartment, and instead went to sleep in his parents bed when his father was at work and his mother was still sleeping. There was no contact possible because the bed is big enough, and there is nothing weird about that.
There is a big difference between going to bed with a sexual partner in a single where you cuddle and snuggle until you fall asleep and sleeping in the same king/queen sized bed with someone on opposite sides.
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On July 06 2011 04:35 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:30 Horiz0n wrote:On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man? I don't find this strange at all. Imagine it's a big bed, not a single where you're forced to snuggle like you do with your significant other. There is a big gap between the two sides of the bed, so there is no contact going on. When I was hanging out at my cousins over a weekend to LAN. My cousin who is 24 didn't want to drive all the way to his apartment, and instead went to sleep in his parents bed when his father was at work and his mother was still sleeping. There was no contact possible because the bed is big enough, and there is nothing weird about that. There is a big difference between going to bed with a sexual partner in a single where you cuddle and snuggle until you fall asleep and sleeping in the same king/queen sized bed with someone on opposite sides.
People are obviously different, I am 24 and I would sleep on the couch or on the carpet, but in the same bed as a friends mother? No way Josey.
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You might also want to look up the case of Kenneth Parks... people can do a lot of things while completely unconscious.
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wow, what a surprise. if you sleep in the same bed with some guy, you might end up having sex with him at night...... why didn't we think of that before.
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On July 06 2011 04:35 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:30 Horiz0n wrote:On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man? I don't find this strange at all. Imagine it's a big bed, not a single where you're forced to snuggle like you do with your significant other. There is a big gap between the two sides of the bed, so there is no contact going on. When I was hanging out at my cousins over a weekend to LAN. My cousin who is 24 didn't want to drive all the way to his apartment, and instead went to sleep in his parents bed when his father was at work and his mother was still sleeping. There was no contact possible because the bed is big enough, and there is nothing weird about that. There is a big difference between going to bed with a sexual partner in a single where you cuddle and snuggle until you fall asleep and sleeping in the same king/queen sized bed with someone on opposite sides.
The guy should've been woken up at the very least. There's a big difference between getting into a bed with someone without their knowledge and getting into a bed with someone with their knowledge.
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On July 06 2011 04:46 TranceKuja wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:35 SolHeiM wrote:On July 06 2011 04:30 Horiz0n wrote:On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man? I don't find this strange at all. Imagine it's a big bed, not a single where you're forced to snuggle like you do with your significant other. There is a big gap between the two sides of the bed, so there is no contact going on. When I was hanging out at my cousins over a weekend to LAN. My cousin who is 24 didn't want to drive all the way to his apartment, and instead went to sleep in his parents bed when his father was at work and his mother was still sleeping. There was no contact possible because the bed is big enough, and there is nothing weird about that. There is a big difference between going to bed with a sexual partner in a single where you cuddle and snuggle until you fall asleep and sleeping in the same king/queen sized bed with someone on opposite sides. The guy should've been woken up at the very least. There's a big difference between getting into a bed with someone without their knowledge and getting into a bed with someone with their knowledge.
But if she thinks he's OK with it and has been told it's fine there is no reason to wake him up and announce her presence. Some people just don't wake as easy as other people, so her getting into his bed is no guarantee he'll wake up. There is a big difference between people and people.
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On July 06 2011 04:42 Horiz0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 04:35 SolHeiM wrote:On July 06 2011 04:30 Horiz0n wrote:On July 06 2011 03:41 Simberto wrote:
This is strange.
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person?
I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed.
So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. This is the question, why did a 16 year old girl try to sleep in the same bed as a middle aged man? I don't find this strange at all. Imagine it's a big bed, not a single where you're forced to snuggle like you do with your significant other. There is a big gap between the two sides of the bed, so there is no contact going on. When I was hanging out at my cousins over a weekend to LAN. My cousin who is 24 didn't want to drive all the way to his apartment, and instead went to sleep in his parents bed when his father was at work and his mother was still sleeping. There was no contact possible because the bed is big enough, and there is nothing weird about that. There is a big difference between going to bed with a sexual partner in a single where you cuddle and snuggle until you fall asleep and sleeping in the same king/queen sized bed with someone on opposite sides. People are obviously different, I am 24 and I would sleep on the couch or on the carpet, but in the same bed as a friends mother? No way Josey.
It was his own mother, not a friends.
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you think she would have been able to wake him up and be like "hey yo get your penis out of me." also who ever said go sleep in that guys bed who has sex when he is asleep wasn't really thinking. and kinda sucks for the guy, when you have sex and can't remember any of it :X
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I suffer from this condition as well, and honestly you don't remember anything, you go to sleep, you wake up and hear stories in the morning from wife/girlfriends about having sex the night before, not just crawl on top humping but full out hours long drawn out kinky sex and you don't even believe them the first few times.
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