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Please stop posting that he shouldn't have invited her into his bed since that's apparently not what happened... read the OP and links BEFORE commenting. | ||
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
On July 06 2011 03:14 Mordoc wrote: Seems like bad judgment on his part to invite her into his bed, even for good reasons. Your inability to read is astounding.  And by that I mean the pretty white box directly above. | ||
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Bellygareth
France512 Posts
On July 06 2011 02:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote: OK, you dont know shit about sleep walking apparently. At MLG Dallas, I got up, bitchslapped hot_bid and went back to bed. Gon (one of the oGs coaches) told me he tried to wake me when I was sleep talking/nightmare/moving around etc once, and that didnt work. So he tried shaking me, that didnt work. So he tried slapping me, that didnt work. He told me this as an apology and I laughed and was like "LOL, I remember 0 of this". You can still function when sleepwalking, you just arent actually aware of any of it. hot_bid probably deserved it don't worry. Jokes aside, it's quite concerning that someone allowed a 16 year old in a grown up man's bde while he is still sleeping in it. And then there's the sexomnia thing :S. However I move a lot in my sleep and sleep boners are inevitable. I don't know how far it would be considered as rape but wtf. However I don't sleep in the nude either. Btw allowing a 16 year old in a bed where lie a naked male? Inappropriate! | ||
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Simberto
Germany11412 Posts
And both those articles fail very hard in delivering a lot of facts that might make it less strange. What was the relationship between that girl and the family? Why was she at that house? Who told her to sleep in the bed with a sexsomniac? Why did she listen to that person? I for one am pretty sure that i would try pretty hard to avoid to sleep in one bed with my mother, and pretty much under no circumstances sleep in the bed of other middle-aged women. And i would especially not get into the bed of someone already sleeping there without them even knowing that unless there is an intimate relationship already. And i somehow imagine that 16-year old girls would be even more careful as to with whom they share a bed. So i really would appreciate if someone had a version of this story with a lot less holes in it. Because at the moment, there are by far more holes in that story than anything else. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
So like ... Who the %T¤#%R#¤" tells a 16 year old girl to go sleep in the bed of a grown man? I don't think he is guilty, I just cannot fathom that thought process. ... at the very least, you know it opens up the sleeping person to all kinds of false charges at a later stage, even if nothing happened... | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On July 06 2011 02:37 Phenny wrote: Um, what if he went to bed before she even turned up? There's far to much we don't know circumstance-wise to be making comments like this. she just broke into the house and slept? obviously there was preplanning, and the onus was on him to inform her on his condition, or take it into consideration before inviting a 16 year old girl over... | ||
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
On July 06 2011 03:49 Destro wrote: she just broke into the house and slept? obviously there was preplanning, and the onus was on him to inform her on his condition, or take it into consideration before inviting a 16 year old girl over... "Mr Davies was already asleep in the bed and told the court he had no idea she was there." Soo... it wasn't his idea, and he didn't even know about it. | ||
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
On July 06 2011 03:04 acker wrote: True, that. Though Penny Arcade comes to mind... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/941615528_t9yay-L.jpg) This wouldn't be considered a rape-worthy accusation either, and no jury on earth would consider this "beyond reasonable doubt". I agree that it almost certainly wouldn't meet the mens rea requirement. I observed in the first 8 pages of this thread that there is a witch hunt for whomever told her to sleep in his bed, and that if that person knew he had sexomnia then they should be charged for her rape, or worse!!! Rabble rabble rabble. I was merely suggesting that perhaps there is no such person, and we all need more information. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 06 2011 03:49 Destro wrote: she just broke into the house and slept? obviously there was preplanning, and the onus was on him to inform her on his condition, or take it into consideration before inviting a 16 year old girl over... Do you know everything that is going on around you when you are asleep? I don't know what happened but I can think of multiple scenarios when someone ends up in your house without your knowledge. Some things sounds strange about this case but please stop acting you know specifics about this case that hasn't been released. | ||
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Zedromas
Canada112 Posts
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:05 Zedromas wrote: I can barely hit the toilet when I'm half asleep....... Great. Cause you know. Everyone is exactly like you, and should be judged by exactly how you experience things. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On July 06 2011 00:27 R4TM wrote: what a baller On July 06 2011 00:38 Otori wrote: Oh not rape at all, just another baller version of surprise sex. It's kind of disgusting that posters consider rape an accomplishment to be proud of. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:05 Zedromas wrote: This is just absolutely astounding....... This man is a pervert and a pedophile, and he's gonna get away with this bullshit?? Your dick just happened to find a nice tight hole while you slept?? Ridiculous. I can barely hit the toilet when I'm half asleep....... Absolutely a fucking disgrace, this man needs to go to jail and spend some time with Bubba..... Age 16 = he is not a pedophile even if done intentionally... Don't be an idiot and may I suggest you do as the white box at the top says?! | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:10 aebriol wrote: Great. Cause you know. Everyone is exactly like you, and should be judged by exactly how you experience things. Not to mention, as noted many times in this thread, when a person sleep walks, his or her body functions just fine. It's just the consciousness that is not functioning at the time. You can't hit the toilet when you're half asleep because you consciously make it happen (or you're just disabled and not telling us). When you sleep walk, it doesn't need the directive of your consciousness. It's not like you're constantly reminding your heart to beat or your lungs to process oxygen. | ||
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Zedromas
Canada112 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:11 Ghostcom wrote: Age 16 = he is not a pedophile even if done intentionally... Don't be an idiot and may I suggest you do as the white box at the top says?! So even if this man was 43 years old, you'd be ok with him banging a 16 year old girl?? I don't care if the age of consent is 12 years old, anything under 18 should be jailbait if you're OVER 18, and the fact that people on TL are actually defending this sleepwalking rapist, is a little astounding to me. HE RAPED HER IN HER SLEEP. MAYBE HE WAS ASLEEP< MAYBE HE WASNT> BUT IT HAPPENED........ Does he deserve your defense? User was warned for this post | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
What's up with letting go idiots and various lunatics who stab people in the face seventy two times??? Oh the poor cretin wasn't aware of his actions, how pitiful. Let's stick him into a comfy asylum so he can escape in a couple of years and bash a random dentist's head in with a hammer (true story). This system is easily one of the greatest blunders of modern civilization. I'm a sexsomniac, too. Often times I wake up and find myself groping a sizable boner. | ||
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:14 Mastermind wrote: I am really confused why a 16 year old girl was told to sleep in the same bed as an adult male. That should not be going on... Read everything again, like the admin note says, and be a little more careful this time. It never says that she was told to sleep with him. It only says that she was told to sleep in that room if her room is too hot, and it doesn't even specify WHEN she was told this. She could have been told this the day before, and chose to exercise it the next day when it just so happened a guy was in it. Lets end the witch hunt for this mystery person that everyone seems to think ordered her to sleep with him, because its a hunt that is just not based on any of the released facts. Thats not saying that it didn't happen - but lets not jump to assumptions. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On July 06 2011 04:18 Zedromas wrote: So even if this man was 43 years old, you'd be ok with him banging a 16 year old girl?? I don't care if the age of consent is 12 years old, anything under 18 should be jailbait if you're OVER 18, and the fact that people on TL are actually defending this sleepwalking rapist, is a little astounding to me. HE RAPED HER IN HER SLEEP. MAYBE HE WAS ASLEEP< MAYBE HE WASNT> BUT IT HAPPENED........ Does he deserve your defense? If it's within the age of consent there is nothing that prohibits sex with a 16 year-old. But it wasn't consensual because she was asleep, and he has a medical condition therefore, not rape. | ||
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