EPT"Sexsomniac" cleared of rape charge - Page 7
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Please stop posting that he shouldn't have invited her into his bed since that's apparently not what happened... read the OP and links BEFORE commenting. | ||
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LilClinkin
Australia667 Posts
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Detwiler
United States239 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:10 Zharak wrote: Getting hammered and going to sleep are hardly the same thing. Beeing drunk or having an actual condition of this kind also makes a huge difference, had the circumstances been that he was simply a heavy drinker he would have been charged with rape, and rightfully so. Alcoholism isnt a medical condition? of course it is. could you black out and have no memory. of course. is it still rape even though you had no control over yourself? absolutely. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:18 Phenny wrote: I'd be more worried of people blindly accepting it rather than questioning it, especially something as excessively bizarre as this regardless of whether or not it is infact legit. Blindly accepting it? There are 3 people confirming his condition. Anyways, he was found not guilty because theres a reasonable doubt. He wasn't proven innocent because that isn't necessary in the court of law | ||
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:34 Fenrax wrote: The girl had been staying at Mr Davies’s home in Swansea when she became ill and was told to share his bed because his room was cooler. EDIT: My bad, I didn't read through the entire article. | ||
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TranceKuja
United States154 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:25 Detwiler wrote: Alcoholism isnt a medical condition? of course it is. could you black out and have no memory. of course. is it still rape even though you had no control over yourself? absolutely. Alcohol is still required regardless. This guys medical condition isn't triggered by consuming anything. Whoever told the girl to go sleep in the guys bed with him was retarded. Even if the guy didn't have a medical condition who tells a teenage girl to go sleep in a bed with a grown man without him knowing about it? | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:29 Chimpalimp wrote: Really? Why wouldn't he just trade sleeping environments with her? Why would he even sleep next to a 16 year old girl if he has had a history of doing this in the past? Honestly he should have the rape charges go through on him. He may not have had the intention to rape her before he went to sleep, but he should have known the potential consequences. Its like letting a contagious tuberculosis patient go into a crowded subway, its not the patients fault for infecting 80 people with TB... another person who did not read the article. he was already asleep and was not aware she had been sleeping in his bedroom | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
meant to edit | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:29 Chimpalimp wrote: Really? Why wouldn't he just trade sleeping environments with her? Why would he even sleep next to a 16 year old girl if he has had a history of doing this in the past? Reading comprehension fail. Over and over it's been said that he was not in any way responsible for the girl getting in his bed, yet every third post is some dude like you who didn't do their reading.. -_- | ||
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EternaLEnVy
Canada513 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:29 billyX333 wrote: Blindly accepting it? There are is a 3 people confirming his condition. Anyways, he was found not guilty because theres a reasonable doubt. He wasn't proven innocent because that isn't necessary in the court of law Not accepting that is how he acts (that has been substantiated), but rather that it is a legitimate condition to be asleep and yet try to fuck someone. And even despite that I think it's at the very least highly questionable that he is able to remove his pants, whip his cock out, take off her pants and plug it in, let alone do that without her screaming, shouting and attacking him. | ||
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Attican
Denmark531 Posts
Btw I don't want to make it sound like it was her fault she got raped but I mean, come on, a bit of common sense and this likely wouldn't have happened. Also I wonder what he does when there isn't anyone in bed with him, he must have some odd mornings. | ||
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
I'm not sure if there are criminal negligence charges that he could be convicted of, or if he could even be found negligent at all. Probably he could not if he didn't know she entered the bed. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:33 Phenny wrote: Not accepting that is how he acts (that has been substantiated), but rather that it is a legitimate condition to be asleep and yet try to fuck someone. And even despite that I think it's at the very least highly questionable that he is able to remove his pants, whip his cock out, take off her pants and plug it in, let alone do that without her screaming, shouting and attacking him. At least 3 people in this thread have expressed that they have similar behavior while asleep. The only thing we agree is fishy is that she was not able to wake him up. She didn't scream, shout, or attack him. The only thing fishy is her behavior, which in itself provides reasonable doubt as to whether the man can be convicted. All you need is reasonable doubt. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:33 Phenny wrote: Not accepting that is how he acts (that has been substantiated), but rather that it is a legitimate condition to be asleep and yet try to fuck someone. And even despite that I think it's at the very least highly questionable that he is able to remove his pants, whip his cock out, take off her pants and plug it in, let alone do that without her screaming, shouting and attacking him. You've never heard of what sleep walkers can do in their sleep? I thought there was no question that its possible. Also, doing it without her screaming, shouting or attacking him seems more of an indictment on the girl's claims than anything else. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
I can imagine it now, like sex addiction but better. | ||
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:39 billyX333 wrote: You've never heard of what sleep walkers can do in their sleep? I thought there was no question that its possible. Also, doing it without her screaming, shouting or attacking him seems more of an indictment on the girl's claims than anything else. Its not even that uncommon a condition. Its been found now in multiple courts worldwide to be a condition, and I even know people personally who have admitted to it. This is a really easy court decision to make. Its so cut and dry not-guilty that I doubt it will ever be heard by a higher court. (or can criminal matters be appealed?) | ||
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Herrk
Sweden271 Posts
If a mentally ill person harms another, he may be comvicted to mental health care (i.e. a psychiatric ward), to cure the ill and making him non-dangerous for the public. The court should tell him that he by law is to take the necessary cautions needed (for instance by making sure his family knows about his condition so they don't invite unknowingpeople to his bed). Can the court do that, even though he is found not guilty? | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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hongo
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