EPTCan I at least conclude none of you have seen something like that for this particular case from someone knowledgeable in the field either yet?
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GreenHorizons
United States23885 Posts
Can I at least conclude none of you have seen something like that for this particular case from someone knowledgeable in the field either yet? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
Sure the person would end up at the hospital with the worst bad trip of her life... but she wouldn't be looking for another fix since she wouldn't be able to « name » what its body is looking for. So, in a way, being drugged without its knowledge/consent might be the safest way to experiment very addictive drugs? Any addiction specialist on TL ? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23885 Posts
On September 24 2019 08:39 Burned Toast wrote: What is the connection between addiction and "knowing" that you are taking drugs? I read articles about a very fast and strong addiction to drugs like heroin or crystal meth. ... But what if someone gets crystal meth without his knowledge or consent? Sure the person would end up at the hospital with the worst bad trip of her life... but she wouldn't be looking for another fix since she wouldn't be able to « name » what its body is looking for. So, in a way, being drugged without its knowledge/consent might be the safest way to experiment very addictive drugs? Any addiction specialist on TL ? Without intentionally stirring up an ongoing debate in the field there's generally two different but related things. For simplicity we'll go with "chemical dependence" and "addiction". Chemical dependence would be like (in this kinda scenario) someone slowly integrating alcohol into your drinks. Start small, tolerance grows, then eventually if they stop you'll experience chemical withdrawals. Dopamine and GABA activity is primarily impacted so you'll be irritated, digestive issues, and about ~5% of people dependent on alcohol experience DT's, which is basically your body going haywire and can be deadly on it's own. While it would take time, you'd not need to have any idea what it was you were dependent on for quitting to trigger symptoms or even death in the case of alcohol. Addiction is generally regarded as compulsive drug use despite harmful consequences—is characterized by an inability to stop using a drug; failure to meet work, social, or family obligations. Then depending on who you're talking to they may add being physically/chemically dependent as a common but not required component of addiction. There are lots of people who are either addicted or chemically dependent but not both. Sex addictions is an addiction people consider real but isn't a result of putting drugs in their body and people on SSRI's are chemically dependent but typically not considered addicts. As to your question more specifically it would vary I imagine. I've never done meth but I have enough experience with people who have that I would probably know I'd been dosed and have a pretty good guess that it was meth though for most it would probably end in a trip to the hospital and the desire to never have it happen again. So addiction sorta requires you know what you're taking or at least a source (in your scenario they would trace the experience back to whoever gave them whatever) but chemical dependency can develop without ever even knowing you've been ingesting the chemical or where it comes from (though your body will probably figure this out without your conscious thinking). | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5104 Posts
Also meth and heroin have very different modes of action. You can get addicted to them all the same, but one gives you a fuckton of energy - by the way dextro amphetamine is a weight loss medicine and is what's in Adderall to treat ADHD (woops) - and the other one numbs your ass out, just like morphine does, but is like 100 or more times stronger. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7153 Posts
The first 2 days without a zigarette are really hard for the body because the "chemical dependance" After that it's pretty much only "mind" addiction of having that zigarette break, inhaling smoke, the feeling of having a zigarette in your hand. And it becomes reeeeaaallly hard when you lower your mind's threshold with alcohol and having friends around you enjoying a smoke | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5104 Posts
Nictotine is one of the, if not the most addictive and strongest easily obtainable psychoactive stimulant in the world. If you'd snort the amount of nicotine like would cocaine, you'd be dead in 5 minutes or something. I'd wager stimulants are inherently more addictive than depressants, because you get that dopamine rush, because you are active and are doing (constructive) things, and you get a (false) sense of positive reflection for your ego. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11804 Posts
My thoughts: Pretty much everyone i know seems to be storing their cups and glasses rightside up. When i was single, i was living in a small apartment, and didn't have closed shelves for drinking glasses. So i stored them on an open shelf, rightside up, without thinking about it. However, this lead to dust accumulating on the lesser used glasses and cups in the back rows. At some point, i simply turned all of them upside down, and it was no longer a problem, because even if dust accumulated, it was on the bottom of the glasses and cups, not on the drinking side. I have been doing this for years now, and have yet to find any downside to doing it this way. However, no one else seems to do it. Everyone always has them rightside up, and this seems to be violently important to some people, to the point where my mother in law turned all of the glasses and cups in our cupboard rightside up at some point. Is there some major disadvantage to storing all of your drinking things upside down that i am just not seeing? Have i come upon a genius lifehack by accident? Or is it simply the people in my surroundings who are weird? | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9296 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18265 Posts
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Archeon
3265 Posts
On September 25 2019 23:05 JimmiC wrote: I have hybrid system of wine glasses right side up but other glasses upside down, the reason for this is reasons. I know someone who has a hybrid system but for normal glasses. The reason is that most glasses are broader at the top than at the bottom, so alternating allows you to put more glasses in the same amount of space. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7153 Posts
On September 26 2019 00:00 Sbrubbles wrote: Keeping cups right side up avoids physical contact between the rim of the cup and the counter. I guess that accumulating some dust inside the cup is less bad than touching/scratching the rim of the cup on the counter because of how direct the latter is. I think it's not about scraching the rim, but about bacteria and germs. One other point I never bothered with but i heard once: When storing hot cups, fresh out of the dishwasher, some rest humidity will go into your (wooden) cupboard when storing upside down and therefore damage it in the long term. Or something like this | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
Alternatively, if all of your cups/dishes are used frequently, you don't really have to worry about dust accumulation. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
I like arguing online and it seems that twitter is the place to be for that. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7153 Posts
But these are all company related. No idea what a person writes about | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Just watched a movie with Clive Owen called Greenfingers. Which made me wonder has the Queen ever visited a Prison or even Prisoners in lockup? | ||
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