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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-10 20:48:39
October 10 2019 20:46 GMT
#14861
On October 11 2019 05:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I give hugs to very good friends that I haven't seen in a while or slightly less good friends that I haven't seen in a very long time, handshakes to slightly less good friends I haven't seen in a while, handshakes to people I meet for the first time, and only verbal greetings to friends (of any proximity) that I have met recently.

I'm not really a hugger, hugs among friends are reserved for special occasions. I mean you gotta let your friends work for a hug, otherwise it loses its meaning entirely. jk
On October 11 2019 04:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do people shake hands with other people they consider friends often? I think maybe my grandpa shakes my hand every time i see him but other than that and other older male relatives it's all for introduction purposes... Or do you make a lot of deals with this person that you seal with a handshake?

I'd say handshakes among our friends are the norm, we shake hands whenever we have company or go out and meet up for dinner etc. Wasn't always the case though, it kinda changed in our mid to late 20s and everybody started doing it, so you gotta go along with it, I don't wanna be rude...hence my initial question and previous posts. ^^
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 10 2019 21:06 GMT
#14862
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
October 11 2019 01:07 GMT
#14863
On October 11 2019 04:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do people shake hands with other people they consider friends often? I think maybe my grandpa shakes my hand every time i see him but other than that and other older male relatives it's all for introduction purposes... Or do you make a lot of deals with this person that you seal with a handshake?


I shake hands with all my guy friends whenever we go hangout, and usually when they depart too. To me, it's something that says: I respect you, value your time, thanks for coming/thanks for the invite, now let's fuck some shit up.

It's like at work when you're a part of a team and you'll shake hands, a show up mutual trust and respect, and now let's go sell some shit, build some shit, etc. If you shake their hand, they're a part of the team for the day, if you don't, they're not.

With women, idk, firstly I have a fairly small sample size, and most of the women I meet as friends are someone's wife and the husband is there, so a hug with one of those small kiss things is appropriate in our groups. I wouldn't do that with a casual group of 4 single guys and 4 girls though. But I'd feel awkward shaking their hands too... Casual hug and awkward high pitched heyy is my go to (yup, single lol).
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 11 2019 05:52 GMT
#14864
Saw some zquil gummies that said is “drug free” and helps with sleep.

Anyone tried these before? The active ingredient is melatonin.

I’m looking to help with solidifying my sleep schedule so that I can wake up early morning and work out before work. I have way better energy for the day when I do this. It’s just sleeping so early in the evening is the challenging part
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
October 11 2019 08:07 GMT
#14865
Melatontin is the hormon that concrols your sleep cycle afaik. Seems like a good basis. I am sceptical however how your body takes artificial hormones
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redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
October 11 2019 16:27 GMT
#14866
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
October 11 2019 16:38 GMT
#14867
On October 12 2019 01:27 redlightdistrict wrote:
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.
Your not allowed to leave those on your own accord, big difference.

A gated community is a status symbol because it allows you to keep the 'rabble' out. Those of status no longer have to be annoyed by mere peasants getting in their way.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18264 Posts
October 11 2019 16:43 GMT
#14868
On October 12 2019 01:27 redlightdistrict wrote:
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.

What about medieval castles? Living in castles (or fortified towns) was definitely better than living out in the open whenever a rampaging army came your way. Gated communities nowadays are somewhat similar: they aren't designed to keep the inhabitants inside (like prisons or mental institutions), they are designed to keep the "undesirables" out. In the case of gated communities those are not rampaging armies, but are rather "criminal elements". They also cost quite some money to live in (for maintenance and security), so that makes them a status symbol, I guess? It shows to the world that you can afford to pay money for (unnecessary) security.

But I'm sure you actually know that, and are intentionally asking the loaded question as bait. It's just too bad for you that GH is still banned
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
October 11 2019 16:54 GMT
#14869
Aw shit, I just realized I accidentally unsubscribred to the The Automated Ban List thread. Thanks Acrofales.

they are designed to keep the "undesirables" out.


It's mostly that, but there are also expensive things that people can't afford on their own, like large fancy gardens or places to do sports.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 11 2019 17:43 GMT
#14870
On October 12 2019 01:27 redlightdistrict wrote:
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.


Status can arise from having something that is both desirable and in short supply. Do you somehow believe that neither of these apply to lavish homes in gated communities?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-11 18:11:23
October 11 2019 18:00 GMT
#14871
On October 12 2019 01:27 redlightdistrict wrote:
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.

Why is living in an area where you have to be richer than the average person considered a status symbol?

I wonder why redlightdistrict asks these kind of stupid questions? Did you misunderstand the intent behind the thread? Is that a serious question, or you getting too much of the thread title?

Despite the thread title, you are supposed to ask questions which are interesting to ask, not questions which betray a deep lack of critical thinking.
redlightdistrict
Profile Joined October 2018
382 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-11 18:23:15
October 11 2019 18:21 GMT
#14872
On October 12 2019 02:43 Sbrubbles wrote:
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On October 12 2019 01:27 redlightdistrict wrote:
Why is living in a neighborhood that is part of an gated community considered a status symbol? The two most common "gated communities" that come to mind are Prisons and Mental Institutions.


Status can arise from having something that is both desirable and in short supply. Do you somehow believe that neither of these apply to lavish homes in gated communities?

I was brought up understanding that wealthy people value having a big chunk of real estate, a house on a large plot of large with acreage of property, and that they value their privacy, not jammed together in a group. If they live in a community with like minded individuals who are super competitive and successful, me thinks conflict would ensue
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5096 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-12 14:34:36
October 12 2019 11:41 GMT
#14873
What's the lowest pressure you can start boiling water at (let's say 20°C; 293K; if that's even possible) and does that water feel hot, or does it just feel like 20°C water that's bubbling (I think the latter, but somehow my gut feeling makes me think it does feel hot due to volatility of the molecules or something)
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 12 2019 16:11 GMT
#14874
It sounds like you're looking at the triple point of water (273.16K/611.657 Pa), where liquid water doesn't exist to boil below that point (solid ice would sublimate to water vapor under heating). All three phases are in equilibrium, and a tiny increase in pressure from that point would yield the lowest liquid water boiling to water vapor.

In terms of feel, the water being boiled feels pretty cold. We're also on the order of 1/100th of sea level atmospheric pressure and well below the pressure where you would die from hypoxia w/ pure O2.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11803 Posts
October 13 2019 20:32 GMT
#14875
Exactly. You do not feel boiling, you don't even feel temperature. What you feel is heat energy transfering in/out of your body. This is very much related to temperature, because how much energy you transfer depends partially on how warm the object you are touching is.

That boiling water just above the triple point would feel like touching water with ice cubes in it, because it is nearly at exactly 0°C. The water is also of a similar density at that point, because liquid water doesn't really change its density a lot depending on pressure, so it has roughly the same ability to transfer heat.

So basically, put sparkling water in the fridge and touch it, that would be about what water at the triple point feels like if we ignore all the problems that are the effects of the low pressure on your human body.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-13 20:43:02
October 13 2019 20:40 GMT
#14876
On October 12 2019 20:41 Uldridge wrote:
What's the lowest pressure you can start boiling water at (let's say 20°C; 293K; if that's even possible) and does that water feel hot, or does it just feel like 20°C water that's bubbling (I think the latter, but somehow my gut feeling makes me think it does feel hot due to volatility of the molecules or something)


This is stuff from my first year and I'm a bit rusty but,

In a closed system filled with an ideal gas, you keep the volume constant and with

PV=nRT
IIRC

where n*r are a constant we can leave out for now.

PV=T

You decrease pressure, you decrease temperature and the other way around. That's the pressure pot principle for you that cooks things faster.

I don't know if there is an absolute lowest pressure, seems like something you can assume to be infinite as the strength of a vacuum.

Oh and whether the water feels hot depends purely on the temperature, those are two different types of receptors that activate below and above 25 degrees respectively if I didn't forget everything about physio. You could also experiment with 2 different bowls with different water temperatures with the 24-25 mark as benchmark and see for yourself.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11803 Posts
October 13 2019 21:12 GMT
#14877
Danglers answer is a lot better, because liquid water is not an ideal gas, especially not at the pressures and temperatures we are talking about here. At very low pressures, there is not even a phase shift between liquid and gaseous, water can only be solid or gaseous, depending on temperature

Also, no, whether something feels cold, and especially how cold, does not depend purely on temperature. You feel the transfer of energy, not temperature. This is why while you are outside in the winter, a rod of metal feels a lot colder than the air (the metal can transfer the energy from your skin away faster, despite being at the same temperature as the air). It is also why the sauna feels hotter when someone puts water onto the hot stones (the water vapor in the air allows faster transport of the heat energy to your body, despite the sauna staying at the same temperature). None of these would be explainable if you only felt temperature.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7150 Posts
October 14 2019 11:32 GMT
#14878
On October 13 2019 01:11 Danglars wrote:
It sounds like you're looking at the triple point of water (273.16K/611.657 Pa), where liquid water doesn't exist to boil below that point (solid ice would sublimate to water vapor under heating). All three phases are in equilibrium, and a tiny increase in pressure from that point would yield the lowest liquid water boiling to water vapor.

In terms of feel, the water being boiled feels pretty cold. We're also on the order of 1/100th of sea level atmospheric pressure and well below the pressure where you would die from hypoxia w/ pure O2.


So what does that translate to in a real life experience?

If you stand on the Mount Everest for example? Water would boil at 50°ish (325 K)?
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11803 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-14 12:55:23
October 14 2019 12:54 GMT
#14879
According to this, the pressure at the top of Mount Everest is at 33.7 kPa.

If we take a look at the Phase diagram of Water
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We can roughly determine that at a pressure of about 30kPA, we will have a boiling point of about 70°C (The line between the areas of "Liquid" and "Vapour" is relevant here.)

According to this calculator
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/water-evacuation-pressure-temperature-d_1686.html
The boiling point of water at 337 mbar (Basically the same as 33.7kPA) is 71.6°C. Which fits well into what we estimated from the phase diagram.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5096 Posts
October 14 2019 13:07 GMT
#14880
So it'll be around 2 kPa for water to boil around 20°C..
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