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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On September 13 2019 16:40 deacon.frost wrote: I've heard that in the medievel pub the toilets were created as a canal under the table so customers didn't have to get up... I have no idea whether this is true or an urban legend. (BTW that was told by my teacher so I am inclined to believe to it, yet I am still reluctant) i believe it. after drinking 2 gallons of grog i would prob have to take a piss every 15 mins after breaking the seal and who can manage that while making merry and holding court and such edit: i believe this came up before and i didnt want to double post. i've found that, when playing against an sk player on ladder, it is best to pretend to be russian. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17979 Posts
On September 19 2019 21:50 GreenHorizons wrote: What do we think the UFO the guy from Blink 182 posted was? ![]() | ||
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KwarK
United States42638 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On September 19 2019 23:11 KwarK wrote: The navy has no incentive to cover up aliens though. Nobody is going to blame the navy for the existence of aliens, that decision was made by a higher power without consulting the navy, but everybody will blame the navy for not telling them. A higher power than the Navy made me wonder what that was, then I got sidetracked into wondering who would be the most likely to win if the branches of the US military were to fight for supremacy. But I'm still just really curious if any of the people here literally have any idea what it even could be (based on expert speculation) or whatever? | ||
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KwarK
United States42638 Posts
On September 19 2019 23:17 GreenHorizons wrote: A higher power than the Navy made me wonder what that was, then I got sidetracked into wondering who would be the most likely to win if the branches of the US military were to fight for supremacy. But I'm still just really curious if any of the people here literally have any idea what it even could be (based on expert speculation) or whatever? The Prime Mover would be the power you’d blame for the existence of aliens. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21665 Posts
On September 20 2019 01:32 GreenHorizons wrote: secret prototype aircraft/drone.In all seriousness, is the Occam's razor answer to this aliens or is there a scientific explanation that takes less assumptions? Solar reflection Any other explanation that isn't aliens. Think about it like this, if Aliens were real Trump would have tweeted about it by now. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On September 20 2019 01:40 Gorsameth wrote: secret prototype aircraft/drone. Solar reflection Any other explanation that isn't aliens. Think about it like this, if Aliens were real Trump would have tweeted about it by now. That's probably the strongest evidence against aliens. I haven't seen any expert (and I presume the navy would just say it was those things) suggest it was any of that or how that could explain what we see in the video is why I ask though. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21665 Posts
On September 20 2019 01:46 GreenHorizons wrote: Has the US ever admitted to an UFO sighting being something like a Blackbird while the aircraft was still classified?That's probably the strongest evidence against aliens. I haven't seen any expert (and I presume the navy would just say it was those things) suggest it was any of that or how that could explain what we see in the video is why I ask though. But sure, if you you wanne believe Aliens are flying around in Earth's sky then be my guest. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On September 20 2019 01:55 Gorsameth wrote: Has the US ever admitted to an UFO sighting being something like a Blackbird while the aircraft was still classified? But sure, if you you wanne believe Aliens are flying around in Earth's sky then be my guest. I want to believe it's a drone or something but I have no scientific explanation for how that could be it, which is why I was wondering if anyone had seen any. | ||
Uldridge
Belgium4762 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On September 20 2019 02:39 Uldridge wrote: Also, I think there are enough "non into sworn secret operation" entities, like amateur astronomers and academic astronomers are obvious ones that cover enough sky at any given time that an actual UFO couldn't be covered up. Again, this is a big "I think", because I actually have no clue about how vast the observable sky actually is, nor the amount of people with knowledge about what goes on above our heads watching the sky at any given time or how much area the combined sky watching ability of those people can cover. Would be fascinating to find out if there was any other footage of it now that people know it's something worth looking into. There was a sighting of a strange craft over the Aegean Sea a couple years back that's the closest I could come up with something on the horizon that could fit some concept of something in development type explanation. Like perhaps it's a new stealth craft and we don't see any energy leaving the vehicle because of whatever the black smoke stuff is in the Aegean footage. Here's the video for people who haven't seen it https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000006525294/ufo-video-navy.html? | ||
Harris1st
Germany6920 Posts
EDIT: In other words: There is NO WAY some redneck farmer dude is seeing an alien ship that neither NASA nor ESA nor whatever space program knows about | ||
GreenHorizons
United States23217 Posts
On September 20 2019 20:34 Harris1st wrote: I honestly don't think an aircraft/ spacecraft that is capable of traveling lightyears can even get close to earth without someone noticing these days EDIT: In other words: There is NO WAY some redneck farmer dude is seeing an alien ship that neither NASA nor ESA nor whatever space program knows about Just so we're clear we're talking about accidentally declassified footage of navy f-18 pilots bewildered and gleeful at tracking what is an unidentifiable craft flying somewhat inexplicably (I haven't seen the analysis of what we can tell about the suspected telemetry of the crafts based on the videos) despite them being pretty familiar with just about anything that can fly. Not some farmers in the woods. That said, it should be an experimental craft, I'm just trying to understand what we think it could be among that line of speculation and finding none (despite this stuff typically rapidly popping up to debunk the redneck type sightings) think it's not that good of an explanation. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6920 Posts
I think my point in my EDIT is still valid though. If it is some sort of spacecraft, at least one space agency would know stuff about it. | ||
Acrofales
Spain17979 Posts
On September 20 2019 20:34 Harris1st wrote: I honestly don't think an aircraft/ spacecraft that is capable of traveling lightyears can even get close to earth without someone noticing these days EDIT: In other words: There is NO WAY some redneck farmer dude is seeing an alien ship that neither NASA nor ESA nor whatever space program knows about Why do you think it is impossible for some higher-than-ours-tech to approach us undetected? I mean, we can't even say with any confidence that we have mapped all asteroids that might intersect earth's orbit... and those are rocks. Any tech that is capable of travelling lightyears is, pardon the pun, lightyears ahead of us. What makes you so confident we could detect them if they didn't want to be detected? That said, most UFO sightings have the same problem: what motivation is there for some alien spacecraft that travels multiple lightyears to our planet undetected, to then enter low atmosphere and perform some kind of aerial acrobatics in plain sight, before disappearing again without a trace. There are really only 3 options for alien visitors: (1) they are seeking to contact us, in which case they would make contact, (2) they are aware of our presence and don't want to be seen and are capable of that tech, in which case they wouldn't be seen, or (3) they are aware of our presence and don't give a shit, are unaware of our presence, or are incapable of hiding their tech, in which case they wouldn't hide their approach and we'd notice high energy events in near Earth orbit as they (dis)engaged whatever drive they use for interstellar travel, enter the atmosphere, etc. rather than *only* appear on blurry videos. I guess it's possible that (4) it's interstellar teenagers pulling a prank on us. This could be the alien equivalent of ringing the doorbell and running away, or making a cat chase a laserpen. But before considering extraterrestial prank calls, I'd do a lot more work to rule out "mundane" terrestrial explanations: this is some phenomenon with the measuring equipment, an atmospheric phenomenon, or some human-made object (possibly in combination with measuring equipment or atmospheric phenomena). Just as they always turn out to be. | ||
Harris1st
Germany6920 Posts
On September 20 2019 21:29 Acrofales wrote: Why do you think it is impossible for some higher-than-ours-tech to approach us undetected? I mean, we can't even say with any confidence that we have mapped all asteroids that might intersect earth's orbit... and those are rocks. Any tech that is capable of travelling lightyears is, pardon the pun, lightyears ahead of us. What makes you so confident we could detect them if they didn't want to be detected? That said, most UFO sightings have the same problem: what motivation is there for some alien spacecraft that travels multiple lightyears to our planet undetected, to then enter low atmosphere and perform some kind of aerial acrobatics in plain sight, before disappearing again without a trace. There are really only 3 options for alien visitors: (1) they are seeking to contact us, in which case they would make contact, (2) they are aware of our presence and don't want to be seen and are capable of that tech, in which case they wouldn't be seen, or (3) they are aware of our presence and don't give a shit, are unaware of our presence, or are incapable of hiding their tech, in which case they wouldn't hide their approach and we'd notice high energy events in near Earth orbit as they (dis)engaged whatever drive they use for interstellar travel, enter the atmosphere, etc. rather than *only* appear on blurry videos. I guess it's possible that (4) it's interstellar teenagers pulling a prank on us. This could be the alien equivalent of ringing the doorbell and running away, or making a cat chase a laserpen. But before considering extraterrestial prank calls, I'd do a lot more work to rule out "mundane" terrestrial explanations: this is some phenomenon with the measuring equipment, an atmospheric phenomenon, or some human-made object (possibly in combination with measuring equipment or atmospheric phenomena). Just as they always turn out to be. Dunno what to write because you pretty much answered all your questions in your post the same way I would have ![]() I have not considered the prank scenario yet, so you are even one step ahead ^^ That said, i do not think it's impossible, it is just veeeeery unlikely | ||
Vivax
21972 Posts
mean they know somethinf about physics that we dont which seems unlikely. | ||
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