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On September 05 2019 21:59 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2019 13:09 Starlightsun wrote:
Is disgust innate or learned? Like why do I find centipedes and cockroaches disgusting while dogs and cats are cute. If both, learned is about 98%. Me personally, I'd say you don't have an innate disgust of anything. But media and parents and everybody says rats are dangerous and roaches are disgusting. As a young child, you go about everthing with pure curiousity. Maybe you touch a roach then and it feels "wrong". This contributes still to learning.
There are a lot of disgusts which i think are innate. Mostly smell and taste stuff, though. Thinks like the smell of rotten meat, the taste of milk gone bad. Basically, things which are reasonable disgusts that protect you from consuming stuff that is dangerous to you, and which are pretty general.
A lot of things are almost certainly trained, though. Everything that people in other parts of the world are fine with is almost certainly trained. Like insects. Some cultures eat insects and don't find them disgusting. If it were innate, this would not happen.
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Norway28918 Posts
Reading about how people used to live makes me conclude that it's certainly mostly learned, although there are some things that seem innate (rotten food in particular - humans aren't blessed with a great sense of smell, but we're actually very good at detecting spoiled food).
Erasmus of Rotterdam had some advice on politeness and civilized life back around the glorious year 1500ish. One of the pieces of advice he issued to his contemporaries was; when eating, if you feel the need to spit, spit on the floor, instead of at the table. The fact that this is something he had to tell people to do makes me believe that people used to just, spit on the table while eating, so commonly so, that it was not recognized as disgusting.
I also remember reading some years ago that stuff like eating (your own) boogers was actually healthy (something about strengthening the immune system), but it's something we train children not to do. (Unlike say, ear wax or poop - something children will often try once and then realize oh my god never again. )
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I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic?
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Would Edmund Kemper still be on the loose if he didn't ever turn himself in? Even the police didn't believe he did it.
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On September 05 2019 23:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic?
is phlegm healthy for you? I know when Im not sick Ill usually just swallow it, but when I am and Ive been hacking up green or yellow I prefer not to swallow it.
Incidentally, I live in a country where I see people spit in the streets all the time and the song of loogies being hocked is like bird song, so maybe I'll ask about why Chinese people spit so much next time I get the chance.
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On September 06 2019 02:08 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2019 23:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic? is phlegm healthy for you? I know when Im not sick Ill usually just swallow it, but when I am and Ive been hacking up green or yellow I prefer not to swallow it. Incidentally, I live in a country where I see people spit in the streets all the time and the song of loogies being hocked is like bird song, so maybe I'll ask about why Chinese people spit so much next time I get the chance.
I know that spit is basic while stomach liquids are sour. To keep each other in check it's important.
Also if you drunk to much vine and got a sour stomach (I guess most of us have done this at one point ^^ ) it helps if you chew gum because you produce more spit.
As to the green and yellow. I cannot imagine that it's bad for you but I would need to ask Doctor Google.
I only know of one occasion to spit it out. And that's when swallowing hurts like hell when your tonsils are swollen to footballs
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On September 05 2019 23:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic?
i think it's very rude to hock and lugie on the street and i think it's considered gauche but i'm not going to confront anyone for it. i'll just think to myself, what a douche, and move on. when it comes to regular spit, i think maybe they just felt something weird get on their mouth and it's akin to a sneeze albeit conscious.
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On September 05 2019 23:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic?
It is a modern shift. With germ theory massive campaigns were run to stop the practice of spitting or sneezing everywhere. Chewing Tobacco was one of the problems in cities regarding that (still is to a much lesser degree, though chewing gum probably eclipses it). See for example the campaign in America following the success stories in Europe, The Anti-Spitting Campaigns, 1896-1910.
Showing that if you don't educate about it and enforce it, it isn't natural in any way to have the society we have now.
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Are there places that serve peanuts in their shell where you're not supposed to toss the empty shells on the ground?
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On September 09 2019 02:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
Are there places that serve peanuts in their shell where you're not supposed to toss the empty shells on the ground?
I had this in the middle of a mountain in China. I was quite surprised when some people told me not to.
I would not have given the shells more than a few hours of life on the floor.
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On September 09 2019 01:05 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2019 23:30 Sbrubbles wrote:
I've never really understood why people seemingly randomly spit on the street. Mind you, it's not common in Brazil, but I've seen it happen on occasion. Are these people disgusted at swallowing their own phlegm or something? Is that the logic? It is a modern shift. With germ theory massive campaigns were run to stop the practice of spitting or sneezing everywhere. Chewing Tobacco was one of the problems in cities regarding that (still is to a much lesser degree, though chewing gum probably eclipses it). See for example the campaign in America following the success stories in Europe, The Anti-Spitting Campaigns, 1896-1910. Showing that if you don't educate about it and enforce it, it isn't natural in any way to have the society we have now.
What I never understood was why people spit in the first place. Harris made a good point about how swallowing hurts when you're sick, but that probably doesn't account for much
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On September 09 2019 02:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
Are there places that serve peanuts in their shell where you're not supposed to toss the empty shells on the ground?
when i was younger used to go to lone star steak house w my dad and there were empty peanut shells eeeeeverywhere. nowadays you cannot do that in said establishment
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Don't they just serve them with an empty bowl for the shells?
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On September 10 2019 00:28 schaf wrote:
Don't they just serve them with an empty bowl for the shells?
they always did but it wasn't uncommon for people to just discard them. now if you throw them on the ground you are reprimanded and then thrown out lol
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Isn't it ironic that most environmentalists drive gas guzzling cars, most people against second smoke are okay with leaf blowers sending vulcanized rubber and disintegrated brake dust into the atmosphere, and Americans who want to protect their children at all costs are okay with sending their children onto a school bus's that doesn't have seat belts?
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On September 13 2019 12:53 redlightdistrict wrote:
Isn't it ironic that most environmentalists drive gas guzzling cars, most people against second smoke are okay with leaf blowers sending vulcanized rubber and disintegrated brake dust into the atmosphere, and Americans who want to protect their children at all costs are okay with sending their children onto a school bus's that doesn't have seat belts?
No, these are stupid points and it’s not clear you know what irony is. You seem to be trying to describe hypocrisy but these things aren’t hugely hypocritical either. Perhaps it would help if you named some of the environmentalists or second hand smoke detractors you’re referring to so we could try to work out what your point is. Which of the many second hand smoke brake dust crossover studies are you referencing here?
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On September 13 2019 12:53 redlightdistrict wrote:
Isn't it ironic that most environmentalists drive gas guzzling cars, most people against second smoke are okay with leaf blowers sending vulcanized rubber and disintegrated brake dust into the atmosphere, and Americans who want to protect their children at all costs are okay with sending their children onto a school bus's that doesn't have seat belts?
So like the grandpa of a friend of mine won the lottery when he turned 98, and then he died the next day. So ironic, right? Almost as ironic as having bad weather when you're getting married!
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On September 13 2019 15:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2019 12:53 redlightdistrict wrote:
Isn't it ironic that most environmentalists drive gas guzzling cars, most people against second smoke are okay with leaf blowers sending vulcanized rubber and disintegrated brake dust into the atmosphere, and Americans who want to protect their children at all costs are okay with sending their children onto a school bus's that doesn't have seat belts? So like the grandpa of a friend of mine won the lottery when he turned 98, and then he died the next day. So ironic, right? Almost as ironic as having bad weather when you're getting married!
Never do that! Postpone everything and try again next year! It' just too bad of and omen.... 
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On September 05 2019 22:31 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Reading about how people used to live makes me conclude that it's certainly mostly learned, although there are some things that seem innate (rotten food in particular - humans aren't blessed with a great sense of smell, but we're actually very good at detecting spoiled food).
Erasmus of Rotterdam had some advice on politeness and civilized life back around the glorious year 1500ish. One of the pieces of advice he issued to his contemporaries was; when eating, if you feel the need to spit, spit on the floor, instead of at the table. The fact that this is something he had to tell people to do makes me believe that people used to just, spit on the table while eating, so commonly so, that it was not recognized as disgusting.
I also remember reading some years ago that stuff like eating (your own) boogers was actually healthy (something about strengthening the immune system), but it's something we train children not to do. (Unlike say, ear wax or poop - something children will often try once and then realize oh my god never again. )
I've heard that in the medievel pub the toilets were created as a canal under the table so customers didn't have to get up... I have no idea whether this is true or an urban legend.
(BTW that was told by my teacher so I am inclined to believe to it, yet I am still reluctant)
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On September 13 2019 12:53 redlightdistrict wrote:
Isn't it ironic that most environmentalists drive gas guzzling cars, most people against second smoke are okay with leaf blowers sending vulcanized rubber and disintegrated brake dust into the atmosphere, and Americans who want to protect their children at all costs are okay with sending their children onto a school bus's that doesn't have seat belts?
yeah i also use anecdotal blanket statements to further a discussion
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