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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 07:43:03
April 12 2014 07:42 GMT
#1461
On April 12 2014 10:09 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 17:19 Simberto wrote:
On April 06 2014 14:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Does used item sales sites (like Kijiji) hurt the government taxation?

Say this, I buy a new car for $20k, the government gets GST+PST from it. Now lets say I use this car for 5 years and sell it for 10k to someone over Kijij. No tax goes to the government.

On the otherhand, if I go to a used car dealership, or an actual company, and I sell the car to them, and they sell the car to someone else, they are taxed on that, is that correct? So the Kijiji way the government taxes only once, which this way the government gets taxes twice.

Am I understanding the situation correctly? It was just a quick thought that popped into my mind, would appreciate an answer, thanks ^^


I am pretty sure you are supposed to pay taxes if you sell something for a lot of money on ebay, or just to some other person. There is probably a lower limit below which you don't have to, probably something that accumulates over the year, so you can't get sued because you sold 3 apples for a dollar to one guy you know, and didn't pay taxes for that. I'd guess that limit is below 10k, but i honestly don't know.

Because otherwise what is the difference between a trader selling stuff to other people, and non-traders selling stuff to other people?


Exactly, that was my reasoning for bringing this argument up.

But I've never been educated about this subject, but the people I know who sold their cars, bikes, and computers on Kijiji never filed taxes for selling them. And I don't know anyone who ever has.


So, i just googled this. I am not a legal expert or anything. What i found is that apparently in Ontario:

"If you are buying a vehicle privately, you are required to pay 13% Retail Sales Tax."

source

Based on some average sales value or something. I'd guess it's similar in other parts of Canada.

So i guess this is one of the cases where you should pay taxes, but noone does, and most people don't know or care.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 12 2014 14:52 GMT
#1462
Idk about the sales tax here in USA but the only time you would report the income is if you were profiting or if you were doing it regularly as business. My instinct is to say you would just claim the profit on a 1099 misc but there might be a different form for it, but I don't think the IRS cares about the recreational sales of personal items.
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 15:04:26
April 12 2014 15:04 GMT
#1463
International trade question:

autarky prices (domestic) = 2
There's an import tariff of 0.5 (specific tariff)
The World price = 1.5 (considering the foreign price = 1)

So the new domestic price (with the tariff) will be at 2 ? (so at the autarky price?)

OR it will be at 1.75 because of the distortion? (BOTH COUNTRIES ARE SMALL)

3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 14 2014 10:47 GMT
#1464
Every week or so my family borrows a DVD from the public library to watch together. Can these DVDs carry computer viruses?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
April 14 2014 14:21 GMT
#1465
On April 12 2014 16:42 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 10:09 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On April 06 2014 17:19 Simberto wrote:
On April 06 2014 14:15 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Does used item sales sites (like Kijiji) hurt the government taxation?

Say this, I buy a new car for $20k, the government gets GST+PST from it. Now lets say I use this car for 5 years and sell it for 10k to someone over Kijij. No tax goes to the government.

On the otherhand, if I go to a used car dealership, or an actual company, and I sell the car to them, and they sell the car to someone else, they are taxed on that, is that correct? So the Kijiji way the government taxes only once, which this way the government gets taxes twice.

Am I understanding the situation correctly? It was just a quick thought that popped into my mind, would appreciate an answer, thanks ^^


I am pretty sure you are supposed to pay taxes if you sell something for a lot of money on ebay, or just to some other person. There is probably a lower limit below which you don't have to, probably something that accumulates over the year, so you can't get sued because you sold 3 apples for a dollar to one guy you know, and didn't pay taxes for that. I'd guess that limit is below 10k, but i honestly don't know.

Because otherwise what is the difference between a trader selling stuff to other people, and non-traders selling stuff to other people?


Exactly, that was my reasoning for bringing this argument up.

But I've never been educated about this subject, but the people I know who sold their cars, bikes, and computers on Kijiji never filed taxes for selling them. And I don't know anyone who ever has.


So, i just googled this. I am not a legal expert or anything. What i found is that apparently in Ontario:

"If you are buying a vehicle privately, you are required to pay 13% Retail Sales Tax."

source

Based on some average sales value or something. I'd guess it's similar in other parts of Canada.

So i guess this is one of the cases where you should pay taxes, but noone does, and most people don't know or care.

It's a bit different for cars because you need to register them and at that time they will ask how much you paid and tax you on it.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
April 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#1466
On April 14 2014 19:47 3FFA wrote:
Every week or so my family borrows a DVD from the public library to watch together. Can these DVDs carry computer viruses?


Assuming that these DVDs are just retail DVDs that are loaned by your library, then they are pressed rather than burned, so they cannot carry anything that wasn't part of the manufacturing process.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 14 2014 16:38 GMT
#1467
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 14 2014 17:41 GMT
#1468
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I do it to piss whoever I'm talking to off, then play the naive card and claim I'm just being the Devils Advocate.

Usually it's with my girlfriend when she's pissed at someone for a stupid reason.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 14 2014 17:59 GMT
#1469
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


Arguing is fun.
I am the Town Medic.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
April 14 2014 18:46 GMT
#1470
Why are gamers so unbelievably whiny ?
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 14 2014 18:50 GMT
#1471
On April 15 2014 03:46 rezoacken wrote:
Why are gamers so unbelievably whiny ?


The whiny part of the bunch are probably frustrated boys.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
April 14 2014 18:56 GMT
#1472
i have a tap which has come loose! There is no way i can get a conventional wrench arouud the nut that will tighten it cos there is just too much shit in the way (imaging there are 3 prongs and i need to tighten the middle one in a gap as big as the 3 prongs!!!!). . . how do i tighten this nut?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 15 2014 23:56 GMT
#1473
[image loading]
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 16 2014 00:29 GMT
#1474
I'm laughing a lot more than I should at that question lol...must be teh vodka lol

<3 taht guy
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 01:52:06
April 16 2014 01:47 GMT
#1475
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I personally do sometime, but I don't think the topics are not controversial.

Obviously there are times when someone argues something that is so stupid it hurts. Like in my eyes if you are going to debate creationism using science, you're just being stupid.

But when it's a moral issue, let's say late abortion, there really isn't a write or wrong answer, however many people become oblivious and completely refuse to try and understand the other side. I think it's an issue because you begin to alienate your view of people who disagree with you, thinking that your view is the one true view.

For example (and I don't want to discuss this topic in this thread), somewhat recently I tried to defend keeping gay marriage illegal, because god dammit, more than half of the world thinks it should be illegal, and many educated people who I'm sure have given it thought still think it should remain illegal. Of course this isn't a very welcome thing on teamliquid, as teamliquid is LGBT friendly, but it's important to understand mentally that the people who have this other viewpoint are people too, and it's not like they are satan or people who have no morality, inherently evil, etc.

It's very easy to alienate certain groups. Whether here in Calgary it's the First Nations because you're on the train here and the ones you see are always the ones who are drunk and obnoxious, or for example men alienating themselves from women and treating them as sexual objects (unintentionally) when talking to them outside of sexual context. And many things in our culture and society cause us to subconsciously alienate certain groups like that. And I always try to make people understand the bigger picture when I can, or to tone some of their prejudices down (although in most situations having some prejudice is actually good!) when approaching a certain topic or group of people. People especially because I think it's a big attribute to the wellness of society, and if you look at many of my posts, I always try to make the people I discuss with see the grand picture, or explore flaws in peoples' arguments for what they think, or when they assess a situation. I often receive nasty replies back, but I think that even if the post that person types is in disagreement and results in insult to me, if I see even a sliver of making that individual think critically and unbiased about what is being discussed, I feel like I'm doing the right thing.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
April 16 2014 02:05 GMT
#1476
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I like FiWi's explanation regarding morality and subjective issues, and I'd also add that sometimes it's fun to intellectually spar with someone and work on how to argue. Especially in court or in front of a large audience, the objective may not to be factually correct, but be the most convincing. That includes flustering your opponent or implementing some cleverness (which, under normal circumstances, would be intellectually dishonest, like logical fallacies or playing off semantics). Think debate team stuff, where you're given a side to argue, and you argue it... period.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
April 16 2014 02:15 GMT
#1477
On April 16 2014 08:56 Kenpachi wrote:
[image loading]


This is awesome.

I believe the Lakers franchise used to be stationed in Minnesota- a.k.a. "the land of 10,000 lakes"- before they moved to L.A.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 02:26:10
April 16 2014 02:24 GMT
#1478
On April 16 2014 11:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I like FiWi's explanation regarding morality and subjective issues, and I'd also add that sometimes it's fun to intellectually spar with someone and work on how to argue. Especially in court or in front of a large audience, the objective may not to be factually correct, but be the most convincing. That includes flustering your opponent or implementing some cleverness (which, under normal circumstances, would be intellectually dishonest, like logical fallacies or playing off semantics). Think debate team stuff, where you're given a side to argue, and you argue it... period.


I think this is why I like working or hanging out with fewer people... I really like the factual truth, and it's so frustrating when someone argues something that is just wrong but you have no way to convince the rest otherwise. Very good real life skills to have though, and I agree with your sentiment as well, although I think on a forum where people have days to construct replies if they wish to attack your argument, is not nearly as effective over other avenues of practice.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
April 16 2014 02:25 GMT
#1479
On April 16 2014 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 11:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I like FiWi's explanation regarding morality and subjective issues, and I'd also add that sometimes it's fun to intellectually spar with someone and work on how to argue. Especially in court or in front of a large audience, the objective may not to be factually correct, but be the most convincing. That includes flustering your opponent or implementing some cleverness (which, under normal circumstances, would be intellectually dishonest, like logical fallacies or playing off semantics). Think debate team stuff, where you're given a side to argue, and you argue it... period.


I think this is why I like working or hanging out with fewer people... I really like the factual truth, and it's so frustrating when someone argues something that is just wrong but you have no way to convince the rest otherwise. Very good real life skills to have, and I agree with you statement as well, although I think on a forum where people have days to construct replies if they wish to attack your argument, is not nearly as effective as over other avenues of practice.


I agree; I'm like you. I'd much prefer validity over fast-talking bullshit.

Some people I know prefer otherwise :/
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 16 2014 02:42 GMT
#1480
On April 16 2014 11:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 11:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 15 2014 01:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Why do people try to play the Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it for issues that should not even be controversial in the first place? Do they think it makes them appear open minded or intellectually honest?


I like FiWi's explanation regarding morality and subjective issues, and I'd also add that sometimes it's fun to intellectually spar with someone and work on how to argue. Especially in court or in front of a large audience, the objective may not to be factually correct, but be the most convincing. That includes flustering your opponent or implementing some cleverness (which, under normal circumstances, would be intellectually dishonest, like logical fallacies or playing off semantics). Think debate team stuff, where you're given a side to argue, and you argue it... period.


I think this is why I like working or hanging out with fewer people... I really like the factual truth, and it's so frustrating when someone argues something that is just wrong but you have no way to convince the rest otherwise. Very good real life skills to have though, and I agree with your sentiment as well, although I think on a forum where people have days to construct replies if they wish to attack your argument, is not nearly as effective over other avenues of practice.


What's the overlap on people who don't believe in gay marriage and people who don't believe in evolution?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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