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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-01 21:47:39
July 01 2019 16:46 GMT
#14661
If you take that sort of view, it is essentially the tyranny of the group towards the rights of an individual. Doesn't answer the question of whether this seemingly real situation, that is so devoid of information that it is seemingly hypothetical, whether the friend is entitled to get his money back.

But rather than a banal hypothetical situation lets go for a more realistic situation.

4 friends agree to meet up at a restaurant with a prepaid set dinner menu that requires a single payer reservation. Everyone transfers money to person A. Money is transferred to restaurant, but friend cancels and person A has his brother come along instead. The restaurant would had given a full refund on the reservation. (A goodwill gesture perhaps.) How would you determine whether the friend should get his money back when he asks for it?

Utilitarianism would dictate that if the happiness of person A and his brother is enhanced by not paying back the money, and the other 2 friends dining do not care about the matter either way, the wishes of the friend who cancelled would not be above the happiness of Person A and his brother and so the friend would get not get his money back.

Utilitarianism just essentially dictated that the best course of action is to take his friends money and use it on his brother. However by most people's sense of fairness, morally speaking, the friend who cancelled is still entitled to have his money back.

JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 17 2019 02:30 GMT
#14662
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
July 17 2019 04:00 GMT
#14663
Assuming the candy is pure sugar I'd say potato chips. Probably whichever one leads you to eat more of it though is worse.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11809 Posts
July 17 2019 04:32 GMT
#14664
Potato chips which aren't roasted in absurd amounts of salt and oil should actually be pretty healthy, but those don't exist.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7159 Posts
July 17 2019 09:33 GMT
#14665
On July 17 2019 13:32 Simberto wrote:
Potato chips which aren't roasted in absurd amounts of salt and oil should actually be pretty healthy, but those don't exist.


Can make em yourself pretty easy actually

If it is an option for you, I would always go for nuts. Delicious and way more healthy than both other options. They are pretty fatty, but the good kind (easy digestable, no staying power on hips, stomach or whatever )
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-23 16:44:35
July 23 2019 16:43 GMT
#14666
How many basic unit of each race (Zealots for Protoss, Zerglings for Zerg and Marines for Terran) have been killed in the totality of SC:BW (i.e. in every game ever played)?
How would you go about estimating this kind of number?
Taxes are for Terrans
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18275 Posts
July 23 2019 17:32 GMT
#14667
On July 24 2019 01:43 Uldridge wrote:
How many basic unit of each race (Zealots for Protoss, Zerglings for Zerg and Marines for Terran) have been killed in the totality of SC:BW (i.e. in every game ever played)?
How would you go about estimating this kind of number?

First you need some idea of how many games have been played. After that, collect a representative sample of replays for each matchup (account for shifting metas and different play levels and maps, etc). Count #units killed in each replay. Average it out and multiply by number of games played.

There might be a race imbalance, so you could probably use iccup or so to figure out what percentage of the player population is filthy protossers and what % are Zerg and Terran and weight your averages accordingly for the probability of each matchup.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11809 Posts
July 23 2019 17:34 GMT
#14668
I love this question.

The answer depends on how much effort i am willing to put into it. You could just simply guess the amount of players, the amount of games each player plays, and the amount of basic units killed per game. This would probably give you a good estimate within a few orders of magnitude.

If you want to put in more effort, you could try to find actual statistics about the amount of games played, or the amount of players. For a majority of the lifetime of SCBW, you probably only need to look at korea, so you could figure out how many PC bangs there are, the percentage of players in PC bangs who play BW. Then you could try to find an estimate of the amount of zerglings killed per game minute. I would probably start with pro games, and then greatly reduce that number for casual play due to lower macro, fewer engagements, and more game-ending engagements.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5110 Posts
July 23 2019 17:44 GMT
#14669
One could start with considering every parameter and putting it into a general formula, akin to the Drake Equation, no?
Taxes are for Terrans
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
July 23 2019 17:57 GMT
#14670
On July 24 2019 01:43 Uldridge wrote:
How many basic unit of each race (Zealots for Protoss, Zerglings for Zerg and Marines for Terran) have been killed in the totality of SC:BW (i.e. in every game ever played)?
How would you go about estimating this kind of number?


About 10 million copies of SC:BW have been sold. The campaigns of Starcraft and Brood War together are about 50 missions, and it's reasonable to assume the average player played enough multiplayer games to round up average games played per player to 100 games. Although some people played 1,000, or even 10,000 games, those are a drop in the bucket compared to the 10,000,000 people who probably didn't do that, so we can ignore that.

In a typical game, it's reasonable to say about 100 basic units get made and killed between both sides.

so 10,000,000 copies sold x 100 games played per copy x 100 units killed per game = 100,000,000,000 killed units

I think that's probably right to within an order of magnitude or two: 100 billion basic troopers have been killed
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 23 2019 21:23 GMT
#14671
On July 24 2019 02:57 Blazinghand wrote:
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On July 24 2019 01:43 Uldridge wrote:
How many basic unit of each race (Zealots for Protoss, Zerglings for Zerg and Marines for Terran) have been killed in the totality of SC:BW (i.e. in every game ever played)?
How would you go about estimating this kind of number?


About 10 million copies of SC:BW have been sold. The campaigns of Starcraft and Brood War together are about 50 missions, and it's reasonable to assume the average player played enough multiplayer games to round up average games played per player to 100 games. Although some people played 1,000, or even 10,000 games, those are a drop in the bucket compared to the 10,000,000 people who probably didn't do that, so we can ignore that.

In a typical game, it's reasonable to say about 100 basic units get made and killed between both sides.

so 10,000,000 copies sold x 100 games played per copy x 100 units killed per game = 100,000,000,000 killed units

I think that's probably right to within an order of magnitude or two: 100 billion basic troopers have been killed


Kudos for putting numbers numbers down, and I agree that pro play is probably irrelevant given the number of units sold overall. I would double the number of copies sold, though, because it was likely widely pirated.
Bora Pain minha porra!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45686 Posts
July 24 2019 10:14 GMT
#14672
What's the new TL.net banner a picture of? I know it's in honor of Geoff, as clicking it brings me to his RIP Thread, but I'm having trouble figuring out what the picture is and where it comes from.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22283 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-24 10:29:36
July 24 2019 10:28 GMT
#14673
On July 24 2019 19:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
What's the new TL.net banner a picture of? I know it's in honor of Geoff, as clicking it brings me to his RIP Thread, but I'm having trouble figuring out what the picture is and where it comes from.
His dog Barriston.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45686 Posts
July 24 2019 10:55 GMT
#14674
Ah, I see it now, thanks!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 24 2019 15:14 GMT
#14675
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45686 Posts
July 26 2019 18:57 GMT
#14676
Is there any reasonable argument to not register as an organ donor?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
July 26 2019 19:12 GMT
#14677
Hep C and/or HIV+, to name two
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 26 2019 19:27 GMT
#14678
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
July 26 2019 19:30 GMT
#14679
Lol yeah, I guess there’s room to infer that you’ll get AIDS from registering to be an organ donor. My God, the horror!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 26 2019 19:32 GMT
#14680
On July 27 2019 04:30 farvacola wrote:
Lol yeah, I guess there’s room to infer that you’ll get AIDS from registering to be an organ donor. My God, the horror!


Thanks for the warning, I had no idea
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