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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11819 Posts
July 26 2019 20:18 GMT
#14681
On July 27 2019 03:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is there any reasonable argument to not register as an organ donor?


Havn't heard one but my mother didn't sign up for research when she entered the register. Her argument was that she didn't really want to be used as a med school autopsy training case.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11501 Posts
July 26 2019 20:54 GMT
#14682
On July 27 2019 03:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is there any reasonable argument to not register as an organ donor?


There are a lot of reasonable arguments against it, probably not a lot of rational ones, though.

If your religion states that you must not do it.
If you personally are worried about what happens to your body after your death.
If you are worried about your family and friends being more sad if the corpse in your grave being incomplete.
(If you are paranoid and think that if you register as a donor people will kill you for your organs.)

There are a bunch of personal reason for people to be against it, and in my opinion, there is not really a lot wrong with this. I do have major problems with the people who don't care, or would actually be in favor of being an organ donor but who are too lazy to ever bother to do it.

I think everyone should at least think about it, and figure out for themselves whether they are fine with it or not. Don't be lazy, because currently if you don't answer, you answer "no".
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44257 Posts
July 26 2019 21:20 GMT
#14683
Thanks everyone for the responses! I was curious as to whether or not any arguments would convince me to not become one (they have not)

I agree with you, Simberto, in that everyone should think about it and figure out whether anything other than laziness would or should prevent them from becoming an organ donor.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21655 Posts
July 26 2019 21:27 GMT
#14684
Ideally you turn it into an opt out system instead an opt in so that you don't have to worry about lazy people.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
July 26 2019 21:29 GMT
#14685
I've watched too much Grey's Anatomy/medical dramas combined with a general distrust of affluent people making me think that if even for a moment they think they can sacrifice me for my organs I'm fucked, so it's save me or toss it out.

I don't have any objections to my organs being harvested after my death (and I guess I could get past the thought of racist medical students defiling my corpse), I just don't want for even a moment the passing considerations of someone else using my organs until I'm dead (or I inexplicably get pregnant ala Junior).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
July 27 2019 07:49 GMT
#14686
On July 27 2019 03:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is there any reasonable argument to not register as an organ donor?
overpopulation
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-27 16:38:46
July 27 2019 16:38 GMT
#14687
On July 27 2019 16:49 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2019 03:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Is there any reasonable argument to not register as an organ donor?
overpopulation

Saving people from premature deaths does not lead to overpopulation. In fact, the opposite is true: saving people (especially kids) from premature deaths is a measure against overpopulation. This video explains it well:
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 29 2019 15:48 GMT
#14688
whats the correct way (if there is one) to walking on a ledge? facing the wall or facing away from the wall?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
July 29 2019 17:43 GMT
#14689
If you need to support yourself, you would be facing the wall anyways. If not, then facing away should place your centre of gravity closer to the wall.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23209 Posts
August 11 2019 22:20 GMT
#14690
How much money would someone have to give you for you to shift your worldview/goal from making more money to rationing the money you have doing what you wish with your time?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
August 11 2019 22:55 GMT
#14691
On August 12 2019 07:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
How much money would someone have to give you for you to shift your worldview/goal from making more money to rationing the money you have doing what you wish with your time?


I would take my expected lifetime earning potential, accounting for the risk, then decide how much I value my life working versus doing what I want, I value it at around 50-60%. If this number is above a basic standard of living, then I'd be good with it.

I think I'd need 4-5 million to quit working for the rest of my life.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21655 Posts
August 11 2019 23:27 GMT
#14692
On August 12 2019 07:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
How much money would someone have to give you for you to shift your worldview/goal from making more money to rationing the money you have doing what you wish with your time?
Enough to live whatever I consider a reasonable lifestyle for the rest of my average life expectancy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 12 2019 00:03 GMT
#14693
For me it's enough for a capital investment and to purchase property on which I can live self sufficiently outside society.

I think the problem with that question, unless this was the secret purpose of the question, is that to most people "making more money" means putting in hours of work 5/7 or more days of their life.

Once you have enough money where your daily expenses for the reasonable future are covered, the money you have left over earning interest requires 0 effort, 0 hours of work. To begin earning money in this situation, beyond just a high-interest account, you do not have to "shift your worldview" in the slightest. Check on your low-risk investments and meet with someone from your bank every so often and all of a sudden you're having your cake and eating it too.

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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 12 2019 01:35 GMT
#14694
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
August 12 2019 04:01 GMT
#14695
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11819 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-12 05:46:41
August 12 2019 05:43 GMT
#14696
On August 12 2019 13:01 Zambrah wrote:
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.


You wouldn't consider moving to a cheaper place to live? 50k USD a year is a lot of money in other places.

If I could keep my current cheap living cost I would be fine on ~1k a month (after taxes). It would be enough to take trips, keep up my hobbies and so on. This would of course increase with inflation but 50k a year sounds like way more than I would need to quit working for life.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 12 2019 07:58 GMT
#14697
On August 12 2019 13:01 Zambrah wrote:
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.

Between 1 and 2 million in an index fund will net you around that on average for the resit of your life (presumably).
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-12 10:11:32
August 12 2019 10:07 GMT
#14698
On August 12 2019 14:43 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2019 13:01 Zambrah wrote:
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.


You wouldn't consider moving to a cheaper place to live? 50k USD a year is a lot of money in other places.

If I could keep my current cheap living cost I would be fine on ~1k a month (after taxes). It would be enough to take trips, keep up my hobbies and so on. This would of course increase with inflation but 50k a year sounds like way more than I would need to quit working for life.

Worth considering that you're spending a significant part of your life not on work anymore, so you'd spend more on hobbies on average. Also possibly family if that's in the cards for you, which would mean a multitude of 1k living cost in most western countries.

I think 1k is barely realistic where I live and definitely not enough for more than one flight a year. If you live/move to a second/third world country that'd change significantly though.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7291 Posts
August 12 2019 12:07 GMT
#14699
On August 12 2019 14:43 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2019 13:01 Zambrah wrote:
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.


You wouldn't consider moving to a cheaper place to live? 50k USD a year is a lot of money in other places.

If I could keep my current cheap living cost I would be fine on ~1k a month (after taxes). It would be enough to take trips, keep up my hobbies and so on. This would of course increase with inflation but 50k a year sounds like way more than I would need to quit working for life.


I’m using 50k as my bar since it was roughly what I was making and living off of while living in Virginia, which is definitely more expensive than like... Missouri, but at the same time, I was scraping by off roughly 50K after all the car payments, utilities, rent, property taxes, food, gas, etc.

If I lived in like, China, I could get away with less, though I’d still rather have the 50k in China so I can get an appropriately spacious apartment in a city with English speaking accommodations, I live in Shanghai atm, and my apartment that I pay the rmb equivalent of about 600usd for is pretty small, my kitchen is like 3x3, and I don’t have a full sized fridge, lol.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11819 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-12 13:02:26
August 12 2019 13:02 GMT
#14700
On August 12 2019 21:07 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2019 14:43 Yurie wrote:
On August 12 2019 13:01 Zambrah wrote:
I’d do it for whatever nets me like 50 to 70,000 a year in interest, live off that for a bit, then get a job, and donate most of the sum to a charity or something once I’ve gotten more or less settled.


You wouldn't consider moving to a cheaper place to live? 50k USD a year is a lot of money in other places.

If I could keep my current cheap living cost I would be fine on ~1k a month (after taxes). It would be enough to take trips, keep up my hobbies and so on. This would of course increase with inflation but 50k a year sounds like way more than I would need to quit working for life.


I’m using 50k as my bar since it was roughly what I was making and living off of while living in Virginia, which is definitely more expensive than like... Missouri, but at the same time, I was scraping by off roughly 50K after all the car payments, utilities, rent, property taxes, food, gas, etc.

If I lived in like, China, I could get away with less, though I’d still rather have the 50k in China so I can get an appropriately spacious apartment in a city with English speaking accommodations, I live in Shanghai atm, and my apartment that I pay the rmb equivalent of about 600usd for is pretty small, my kitchen is like 3x3, and I don’t have a full sized fridge, lol.


I live frugal and the only cost that would change is food that would likely drop 100 USD a month. Rent is surprisingly low for Sweden at around 400 USD (old apartment not renovated in a while). Then food another 200 since I would cook at home more than I do working. Utilities another 100. Total cost for reoccurring costs is thus around 700. Add in clothes, games etc and I probably go to 800 a month.

The last 200 for whatever other stuff I want to do. Would be enough to fly out for a weekend every second month if that is what I wanted to do. Though I honestly dislike travelling so doubt I would do that.

No need for a car, monthly commute card or other things when not working. If a car was added in 1k USD isn't enough here for me.
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