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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 14 2017 17:52 GMT
#12901
On July 15 2017 02:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it that the songs I get stuck in my heard are almost exclusively songs I don't particularly like or even outright dislike?




At what point will(should) coastal cities start to evacuate/move elswhere if and when sea levels rise beyond manageable levels?


For the songs--it's actually because the efforts needed to make a "hook" or "ear worm" as some call it, that effort is very different than what is needed in making either music or lyrics.

The repetition and rhythm is meant to be easily digestible, memorable, and does not leave time for your brain to let it go.

That means most songs that get stuck in your head does not get stuck there because of the content of the lyrics or the actual artistry of the sounds--it's stuck there because of the hook.

As for your second question--people will start just building legs on their houses or start to live on boats before they "leave" their land. Ie, people will stay until it becomes a threat to them to stay.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-14 21:48:10
July 14 2017 21:45 GMT
#12902
On July 15 2017 02:52 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 02:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it that the songs I get stuck in my heard are almost exclusively songs I don't particularly like or even outright dislike?




At what point will(should) coastal cities start to evacuate/move elswhere if and when sea levels rise beyond manageable levels?


For the songs--it's actually because the efforts needed to make a "hook" or "ear worm" as some call it, that effort is very different than what is needed in making either music or lyrics.

The repetition and rhythm is meant to be easily digestible, memorable, and does not leave time for your brain to let it go.

That means most songs that get stuck in your head does not get stuck there because of the content of the lyrics or the actual artistry of the sounds--it's stuck there because of the hook.

As for your second question--people will start just building legs on their houses or start to live on boats before they "leave" their land. Ie, people will stay until it becomes a threat to them to stay.


I think we should dwell a bit on this wisdom, this, "does not leave time for your brain to let it go." The temporality of the decision to let go? The choosing? The unfolding, like a trap, around the hook caught in our snare? Normally we think time is a necessary mnemotechnic ingredient, but here TM has laid out for us a surprising [the trap or hook of the sur-prise] reversal. The reason the song is stuck is because we lack the time to let go. There must be a willful forgetting in duration to extricate ourselves from the predicament of a looping, never-ending, atemporal present.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 14 2017 22:49 GMT
#12903
On July 15 2017 06:45 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 02:52 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it that the songs I get stuck in my heard are almost exclusively songs I don't particularly like or even outright dislike?




At what point will(should) coastal cities start to evacuate/move elswhere if and when sea levels rise beyond manageable levels?


For the songs--it's actually because the efforts needed to make a "hook" or "ear worm" as some call it, that effort is very different than what is needed in making either music or lyrics.

The repetition and rhythm is meant to be easily digestible, memorable, and does not leave time for your brain to let it go.

That means most songs that get stuck in your head does not get stuck there because of the content of the lyrics or the actual artistry of the sounds--it's stuck there because of the hook.

As for your second question--people will start just building legs on their houses or start to live on boats before they "leave" their land. Ie, people will stay until it becomes a threat to them to stay.


I think we should dwell a bit on this wisdom, this, "does not leave time for your brain to let it go." The temporality of the decision to let go? The choosing? The unfolding, like a trap, around the hook caught in our snare? Normally we think time is a necessary mnemotechnic ingredient, but here TM has laid out for us a surprising [the trap or hook of the sur-prise] reversal. The reason the song is stuck is because we lack the time to let go. There must be a willful forgetting in duration to extricate ourselves from the predicament of a looping, never-ending, atemporal present.


That's kind of the point of hooks? Albeit, it does not require your excessive pedantics to explore it. By creating the illusion of continual progress the goal is for the mind to never having a comfortable stopping point in which to break off from the experience. And it doesn't matter if it's rhythms in music, iambs in poetry, or cliffhangers in long form narratives--by creating the illusion of contiguous experience, your brain is tricked into feeling that there is no clean break point from which to extricate yourself--hence why we say that it gets "stuck" in our heads as opposed to "purposefully looping, wth intention, unwanted patterns".

Unless, of course, things only get stuck in your head because you force it to be stuck in your head?
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
July 17 2017 09:01 GMT
#12904
On July 15 2017 02:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it that the songs I get stuck in my heard are almost exclusively songs I don't particularly like or even outright dislike?




At what point will(should) coastal cities start to evacuate/move elswhere if and when sea levels rise beyond manageable levels?


1- Because you actually love that Mandy Moore song. Stop lying to yourself!

2- Why do you think higher floor are more expensive on tall building? They're not planning to go anywhere.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23491 Posts
July 20 2017 20:48 GMT
#12905
Who was the last National American politician that was on their way to keeping a safe seat, but instead retired before the election?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 21 2017 16:25 GMT
#12906
I got some water on my travel visa but I dried it off completely and it does not look like there is water damage. Should I still be worried?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 22 2017 03:29 GMT
#12907
On July 22 2017 01:25 Shiragaku wrote:
I got some water on my travel visa but I dried it off completely and it does not look like there is water damage. Should I still be worried?


Define more specifically what you mean by "worried"
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
July 22 2017 03:49 GMT
#12908
Maybe he's worried it'll get mistaken for a fake and he might get deported.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 22 2017 04:02 GMT
#12909
On July 22 2017 12:49 riotjune wrote:
Maybe he's worried it'll get mistaken for a fake and he might get deported.


When it comes to proof you're not an invading army in conjunction with "should I be worried" there is a wide range of how bad or meaningless things can be. Hence my desire for more specificity.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 22 2017 12:04 GMT
#12910
The fact that someone would actually care about the physical state of the visa is alarming. Any paper can be easily falsified nowadays, the only security that works is a record in your own database saying "this guy has visa". Yet things like that indeed do cause problems. Makes you wonder why we are constantly being bothered by "security" when it's implemented in a mostly useless way.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 22 2017 12:27 GMT
#12911
On July 22 2017 01:25 Shiragaku wrote:
I got some water on my travel visa but I dried it off completely and it does not look like there is water damage. Should I still be worried?


Couple of years back I lost my passport (with the US visa) and later found it in a snow bank. There was extensive water damage but it never really got me any trouble
Bora Pain minha porra!
Oshuy
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands529 Posts
July 22 2017 13:01 GMT
#12912
On July 22 2017 21:27 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2017 01:25 Shiragaku wrote:
I got some water on my travel visa but I dried it off completely and it does not look like there is water damage. Should I still be worried?


Couple of years back I lost my passport (with the US visa) and later found it in a snow bank. There was extensive water damage but it never really got me any trouble


My passport with visas went through the washing machine. Damaged, but never had any major issues. Customs often double check and say that I should think about getting a new one, but no more than that so far. Wasn't US visas though.
Coooot
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
July 23 2017 05:42 GMT
#12913
whats that word for when people have a fetish for like amputation, not amputees but having their limbs and shit amputated

also, does anyone know the hex code for Mayan Blue
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 23 2017 06:23 GMT
#12914
On July 23 2017 14:42 Zambrah wrote:
whats that word for when people have a fetish for like amputation, not amputees but having their limbs and shit amputated

also, does anyone know the hex code for Mayan Blue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia

Looking for this, I learned the word "pluviophile", for someone who loves rain. On another side note, those pages are not linked form the wiki page for Cronenberg's "Crash", which is where I thought I originally read about it.

My stupid question: "What's the best way to form positive habits?" This is something I've always had trouble with, where I might start doing something on and off, but have trouble sticking to it.
you gotta dance
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11646 Posts
July 23 2017 08:58 GMT
#12915
For me, the only thing that works is "no excuses". Decide on doing it, and do it. Always. As soon as i allow any excuses whatsoever for not doing it, no matter how justified they are, at most a month later i have completely stopped doing it.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11934 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-23 10:06:47
July 23 2017 10:05 GMT
#12916
There is also the other side of the coin. With a no excuses line missing once or having low will for it once crashes the entire thing. Having the mindset of missing once being fine, just make sure to do it next works better for some people. Still needs to be an escalating need if you miss it once, else it becomes easier each time to skip.

The basic thing in all of them though is that having somebody you do the thing with makes it much easier. Secondly you need to stick with it for 3 months to form a habit that sticks. 66 days is a figure often quoted but I assume it will vary how long you need to stick with it.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11646 Posts
July 23 2017 10:13 GMT
#12917
On July 23 2017 19:05 Yurie wrote:
There is also the other side of the coin. With a no excuses line missing once or having low will for it once crashes the entire thing. Having the mindset of missing once being fine, just make sure to do it next works better for some people. Still needs to be an escalating need if you miss it once, else it becomes easier each time to skip.

The basic thing in all of them though is that having somebody you do the thing with makes it much easier. Secondly you need to stick with it for 3 months to form a habit that sticks. 66 days is a figure often quoted but I assume it will vary how long you need to stick with it.


Probably depends on what type of person you are in that regard. I know that as soon as i accept any excuses, the next time it will be a slightly worse excuse, than an even worse excuse, and pretty soon i am at the point where "well i don't feel like it right now" is an ok excuse. For some people it might work totally differently.

I agree that "person you do stuff with" helps a lot, because it puts societal pressure onto you to keep doing it in those moments where you would otherwise not do it for whatever reason.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
July 23 2017 22:24 GMT
#12918
On July 23 2017 15:23 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2017 14:42 Zambrah wrote:
whats that word for when people have a fetish for like amputation, not amputees but having their limbs and shit amputated

also, does anyone know the hex code for Mayan Blue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotemnophilia

Looking for this, I learned the word "pluviophile", for someone who loves rain. On another side note, those pages are not linked form the wiki page for Cronenberg's "Crash", which is where I thought I originally read about it.

My stupid question: "What's the best way to form positive habits?" This is something I've always had trouble with, where I might start doing something on and off, but have trouble sticking to it.



start small but reasonable. don't set goals ridiculous that you can't do. Make sure you do it consistently and set a short term goal, 3 weeks is pretty decent if your doing something weekly or relatively often.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
July 23 2017 22:27 GMT
#12919
On July 21 2017 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Who was the last National American politician that was on their way to keeping a safe seat, but instead retired before the election?


The Senator from California who just retired? Don't remember seeing anything about her seat being at risk at all.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23491 Posts
July 24 2017 06:16 GMT
#12920
Any reasonably popular movies where a main (not necessarily the lead) character was Jewish, but the actor playing them wasn't?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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