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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
October 11 2015 20:47 GMT
#7141
On October 12 2015 05:44 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 05:39 greenelve wrote:
So much war and war like crisies in the world. Why do humans want/try/enjoy? killing eachother so much? :/


You're on a Starcraft forum. A third of the people here like to imagine killing other people with guns. A third like to imagine cutting each other to pieces with lazor swords. A third wish they could do it with their bare hands/claws.


That reminds me of this:

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But obviously, we can tell the difference between a game and real life
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
October 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#7142
On October 12 2015 05:44 Yoav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 05:39 greenelve wrote:
So much war and war like crisies in the world. Why do humans want/try/enjoy? killing eachother so much? :/


You're on a Starcraft forum. A third of the people here like to imagine killing other people with guns. A third like to imagine cutting each other to pieces with lazor swords. A third wish they could do it with their bare hands/claws.

So...i have a new question: Why cant all people just imagine that and not do it for real? :/
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 11 2015 21:15 GMT
#7143
Humans are nasty, brutish things. That's the only explanation
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
October 11 2015 21:17 GMT
#7144
Thats sounds a bit harsh....are you one of these nasty, bruthis things called humans?
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
October 11 2015 21:23 GMT
#7145
Guilty as charged
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 11 2015 21:23 GMT
#7146
Violence has always been the easiest and most efficient way of getting what you want. Of course the trend is toward less violence nowadays but no amount of logic or reason or policy or law will reverse a dagger in the back.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 11 2015 21:51 GMT
#7147
I think very few people kill or go to war as something inherently desired. In most cases I think it is a matter of the end justifying the means. Which other people may or may not agree with.

Even Hitler didn't go after the Jews for the fun of it, but it was to "clean" the human race, helping evolution along in selecting for the genetically superior Germans. That it involved killing millions of people (albeit interior) didn't seem to bother him enough to not go through with it, but don't think it was done for the joy of killing. He was trying to help future generations.

For people that do enjoy it... Maybe some kind of power rush? Being able to kill people if the ultimate power in a way.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 01:04 GMT
#7148
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 01:16:17
October 12 2015 01:12 GMT
#7149
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?


I think it depends on which health issues you care more about, and how fast they can be caused by these two scenarios. Diabetes vs. lung cancer and emphysema, for example, makes me think that in the long run, cigarettes are considerably worse for you... the effects of an incredibly high-sugar diet might occur faster, but they're much more manageable. I'm not a nutritionist or health expert, but I'd much rather deal with the sugar consequences instead of the cigarette consequences.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 12 2015 01:22 GMT
#7150
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
October 12 2015 02:40 GMT
#7151
On October 12 2015 06:10 greenelve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 05:44 Yoav wrote:
On October 12 2015 05:39 greenelve wrote:
So much war and war like crisies in the world. Why do humans want/try/enjoy? killing eachother so much? :/


You're on a Starcraft forum. A third of the people here like to imagine killing other people with guns. A third like to imagine cutting each other to pieces with lazor swords. A third wish they could do it with their bare hands/claws.

So...i have a new question: Why cant all people just imagine that and not do it for real? :/


the violence is normally a biproduct more than the main goal.

For example greed => war
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 12 2015 02:46 GMT
#7152
On October 12 2015 10:22 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, through eating healthy foods in addition to the sugary foods + exercising the sugar guy can counteract the negatives a lot easier than the smoker could right?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 12 2015 02:52 GMT
#7153
On October 12 2015 11:46 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 10:22 ThomasjServo wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, through eating healthy foods in addition to the sugary foods + exercising the sugar guy can counteract the negatives a lot easier than the smoker could right?

I forgot to mention, I imagine the twins are living moderately healthy lifestyles aside from the sugar/smoking.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
October 12 2015 02:53 GMT
#7154
On October 12 2015 11:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 11:46 Chewbacca. wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:22 ThomasjServo wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, through eating healthy foods in addition to the sugary foods + exercising the sugar guy can counteract the negatives a lot easier than the smoker could right?

I forgot to mention, I imagine the twins are living moderately healthy lifestyles aside from the sugar/smoking.


Smoking is worse.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 12 2015 05:06 GMT
#7155
On October 12 2015 05:15 Epishade wrote:
Is the passing of time perceived as constant universally, or do people just register it at a constant rate because our brains evolved to think at a fixed rate?

Our perception of the passion of time is not constant at all? However yes we measure it at constant, simply because otherwise it would be a pretty mess.

On October 12 2015 05:39 greenelve wrote:
So much war and war like crisies in the world. Why do humans want/try/enjoy? killing eachother so much? :/

Because war is just the continuation of diplomacy. I don't think anyone actually enjoys it.

On October 12 2015 11:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 11:46 Chewbacca. wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:22 ThomasjServo wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, through eating healthy foods in addition to the sugary foods + exercising the sugar guy can counteract the negatives a lot easier than the smoker could right?

I forgot to mention, I imagine the twins are living moderately healthy lifestyles aside from the sugar/smoking.

Smoking.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 12 2015 05:25 GMT
#7156
I'd guess smoking is worse. Then again, I work in cancer, so I may be biased.

Also depends on your measure, and the dose of smoking/sugar. Sugar is probably more manageable if you eat enough nutrients as well, and exercise enough to not get obese. Smoking harder to compensate for.

That said, both are pretty bad!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 12 2015 12:24 GMT
#7157
On October 12 2015 11:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 11:46 Chewbacca. wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:22 ThomasjServo wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
With regard to overall health, is someone who eats a lot of sugar (think 2 energy drinks a day plus chocolate plus pop to drink) worse or better off than someone who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day?

Say both people were healthy 20 year olds and both started their bad habits on the same day. Is one better off in the short term?

I think the person with the bad diet would probably be worse off and more complications, more quickly. Smoking, you'll hurt your heart, lungs, and throat with some misc thrown in there with long term risk of cancer and emphasize; bad diet will really mess up most everything and much faster imo. Extra stress on the heart, weight gain causing overall more wear and tear, diabetes, I think if you had a sampling of identical twins and said smoke up Johnny to the one and here is your twinkies to the other the latter would be much worse off within six months of the experiment.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this, through eating healthy foods in addition to the sugary foods + exercising the sugar guy can counteract the negatives a lot easier than the smoker could right?

I forgot to mention, I imagine the twins are living moderately healthy lifestyles aside from the sugar/smoking.

Ah, an important caveat then.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2015 17:58 GMT
#7158
Are sponges supposed to come out of the package slightly damp?
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 12 2015 18:14 GMT
#7159
On October 13 2015 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Are sponges supposed to come out of the package slightly damp?

yes
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2015 18:15 GMT
#7160
On October 13 2015 03:14 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 02:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Are sponges supposed to come out of the package slightly damp?

yes


Ok, I guess that leads me to the question - how come? Are they too brittle to survive if they're dry?
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