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Ghostcom
Denmark4781 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
But I divert from work and my studies to TL pretty regularly, since it's an interesting international community, and I miss the days when I had enough time to play a lot of Starcraft. | ||
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miky_ardiente
Mexico387 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10352 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43777 Posts
On November 06 2014 14:20 Shiragaku wrote: How much respect should be given to people who respond to arguments by saying "I am entitled to my opinion" or "That's just your opinion?" None, if they're disputing a well-established argument by making a baseless claim. Not all opinions are created equal, and they don't inherently deserve respect simply because they exist. | ||
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Yurie
11683 Posts
On November 06 2014 13:35 miky_ardiente wrote: whats the optimal/ideal ratio of trees:men and, is there enough available space in the planet to plant the necessary amount of trees to cover the deficit ? I found the two following interesting links, from that you can calculate it. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96758439 current amount of trees http://www.tomshardware.com/news/co2-carbon-dioxide-emissions,5358.html trees that need to get added | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On November 06 2014 14:20 Shiragaku wrote: How much respect should be given to people who respond to arguments by saying "I am entitled to my opinion" or "That's just your opinion?" People often mistake opinion with observation. It supposed to be: Observation => Discussion => Opinion See (A), talk about (A), have an opinion on (A) When people say they're entitled to an opinion they often mean: Observation => Opinion => Discussion See (A), think you know what (A) means, tell people what (A) means Trolls are the ones that intentionally disrupt the structure and go: Opinion => Discussion => Observation Say (A) means ____, argue over (A), get shown what (A) actually is "stupid questions" are what occurs when this happens: Discussion => Observation => Opinion "What if we ____ (A)", "But ____ is (A)", "Oh..." | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain17836 Posts
On November 06 2014 16:15 Deleuze wrote: My old philosophy professor used to say "Any jack ass can have an opinion, and most jack asses do." Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man. | ||
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Gowerly
United Kingdom916 Posts
On November 06 2014 14:20 Shiragaku wrote: How much respect should be given to people who respond to arguments by saying "I am entitled to my opinion" or "That's just your opinion?" Personally, if the best thing they can say about their opinion is that they are entitled to have it, it's not a great opinion. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 06 2014 16:15 Deleuze wrote: My old philosophy professor used to say "Any jack ass can have an opinion, and most jack asses do." My philosophy professor used to say that an opinion is something used by people too lazy to actually think | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On November 06 2014 14:20 Shiragaku wrote: How much respect should be given to people who respond to arguments by saying "I am entitled to my opinion" or "That's just your opinion?" none, people who say that announce to the world that they have no arguments to support their claims. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17836 Posts
On November 06 2014 21:08 Skilledblob wrote: none, people who say that announce to the world that they have no arguments to support their claims. That's not entirely true. It depends a lot on what you are talking about. You can give me all the reasons you want why you don't like bacon, but it won't convince me to dislike bacon. There are things that are subjective, and while I can give you a well reasoned discourse on why bacon is delicious and Miley Cyrus makes terrible music, there comes a point where we just have to agree to disagree. However, there are other topics where subjectivity is irrelevant. For instance the theory of gravity. It is profoundly ignorant to ignore the evidence that shows how Einstein's theory of relativity best explains gravity and insist that there is a magic person inside the earth pulling us all down on invisible strings. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43777 Posts
On November 06 2014 21:48 Acrofales wrote: That's not entirely true. It depends a lot on what you are talking about. You can give me all the reasons you want why you don't like bacon, but it won't convince me to dislike bacon. There are things that are subjective, and while I can give you a well reasoned discourse on why bacon is delicious and Miley Cyrus makes terrible music, there comes a point where we just have to agree to disagree. However, there are other topics where subjectivity is irrelevant. For instance the theory of gravity. It is profoundly ignorant to ignore the evidence that shows how Einstein's theory of relativity best explains gravity and insist that there is a magic person inside the earth pulling us all down on invisible strings. You mean you don't subscribe to Intelligent Falling? http://www.theonion.com/articles/evangelical-scientists-refute-gravity-with-new-int,1778/ + Show Spoiler + It's the Onion... satire, obviously. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On November 06 2014 21:48 Acrofales wrote: That's not entirely true. It depends a lot on what you are talking about. You can give me all the reasons you want why you don't like bacon, but it won't convince me to dislike bacon. There are things that are subjective, and while I can give you a well reasoned discourse on why bacon is delicious and Miley Cyrus makes terrible music, there comes a point where we just have to agree to disagree. However, there are other topics where subjectivity is irrelevant. For instance the theory of gravity. It is profoundly ignorant to ignore the evidence that shows how Einstein's theory of relativity best explains gravity and insist that there is a magic person inside the earth pulling us all down on invisible strings. One can form different conclusions from each other using the same evidence--that's why we have different opinions. For example, when discussing the theory of _____, so long as both sides agree to the same evidence, a discussion can be had and its possible that both end up with different conclusions. So long as the opinion is generated from agreed upon observations/evidence/proofs, then its perfectly fine to have different opinions on the conclusion. Begin any argument by saying your opinion is already conclusive means you're not trying to argue/discuss a topic--and hence why they don't deserve respect. For example, using your bacon discussion. Lets say Person A doesn't like bacon because its unhealthy, but Person B likes bacon because it tastes good. Person A and B are not having a discussion since they do not agree on the observable parameters. Person A thinks bacon is about health and person B thinks its about taste. Now, if both talked only about taste or only about health, and they still come to different conclusions (Person A might not like salty meats while Person B might be a proponent of the Paleo diet) then its okay to say that they have different opinions. But only if the discussion uses the same set of evidence. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On November 06 2014 21:48 Acrofales wrote: That's not entirely true. It depends a lot on what you are talking about. You can give me all the reasons you want why you don't like bacon, but it won't convince me to dislike bacon. There are things that are subjective, and while I can give you a well reasoned discourse on why bacon is delicious and Miley Cyrus makes terrible music, there comes a point where we just have to agree to disagree. However, there are other topics where subjectivity is irrelevant. For instance the theory of gravity. It is profoundly ignorant to ignore the evidence that shows how Einstein's theory of relativity best explains gravity and insist that there is a magic person inside the earth pulling us all down on invisible strings. The thing is there are people who seem to believe that their opinions are as good as facts themselves. Some years ago I heard this funny argument where a woman was arguing that a woman's intuition was just as valid as science because science is a man's tool and intuition is a woman's tool. Obviously I'd argue that both the premise of the argument and its conclusion are deeply flawed. It's part of this whole feel-good-about-yourself thing where people are taught that they're "special little snowflakes" (though using that expression sarcastically annoys me to no end). We're told that we're entitled to our opinions so much that we've come to believe that we're entitled to be blatantly wrong about shit and so not thinking about our opinions is fine because everyone's entitled to believe in whatever stupid shit they want to. Why would I try to be smart and knowledgeable when anything I say is my opinion and my opinion is as good as any? Sure my feeling about bacon is subjective though but some things are sacred. Bacon is sacred. I'm kidding but I'm sure we understand each other  | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
Spears have probably been the most widely used weapons in human history, from ancient germans over early romans, greeks, persians, indians, chinese to japanese, it's hard to find a single culture in which the spear was not the most important melee weapon. Instead in most RPGs swords are the most widely used primary weapons when in reality it was often the secondary weapon. It's stupid and would be comparable to FPS games like CS and Arma only featuring pistols and no rifles. /rant | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On November 07 2014 01:30 REDBLUEGREEN wrote: Why do so few RPG games offer spears as weapons? Spears have probably been the most widely used weapons in human history, from ancient germans over early romans, greeks, persians, indians, chinese to japanese, it's hard to find a single culture in which the spear was not the most important melee weapon. Instead in most RPGs swords are the most widely used primary weapons when in reality it was often the secondary weapon. It's stupid and would be comparable to FPS games like CS and Arma only featuring pistols and no rifles. /rant Power of spears is in the numbers. Tight formations with many spears pointing out means very difficult times for melee opponents. On the other hand a single soldier with a spear is much more vulnerable to someone equipped with a more nimble weapon. In RPGs the characters are usually fighting in smaller numbers or alone. | ||
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