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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 21:04:15
May 26 2011 21:03 GMT
#81
So...where's the Cataclysm music in these videos?



Someone quick! Edit one!
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 26 2011 21:25 GMT
#82
The stone house talk sounds a bit weird to me. Would a tornado not destroy a house like that as well, and only let the walls remain, while the roof and the windows will be ripped off? Walls out of brick and mortar would perhaps crumble? I am imagining you would have to hide in the basement, just like with a wooden house.
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FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
May 26 2011 21:37 GMT
#83
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Thunder_Sturm
Profile Joined October 2009
United States36 Posts
May 26 2011 21:42 GMT
#84
On May 27 2011 06:25 Ropid wrote:
The stone house talk sounds a bit weird to me. Would a tornado not destroy a house like that as well, and only let the walls remain, while the roof and the windows will be ripped off? Walls out of brick and mortar would perhaps crumble? I am imagining you would have to hide in the basement, just like with a wooden house.

I think that the tornado would have to come much much closer or actually pass through the house to completely destroy such a home. Even if the roof and windows are destroyed, that's a lot better than losing the entire house.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19010 Posts
May 26 2011 21:48 GMT
#85
Stone buildings not immune. This is the mechanic's shop I was talking about:

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Granted it's got a lot of space and not much in terms of being designed to withstand tornadoes, but still.
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Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
May 26 2011 21:52 GMT
#86
Well that's lovely... apparently there's a tornado headed our way tonight. Plus this house probably is like the worst place to take shelter, lol
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MrStyx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States22 Posts
May 26 2011 21:52 GMT
#87
Here in Kansas, we have had tornado sirens almost every day for the past week.

keep in mind that you most likely cant even hear it if its near your house.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 26 2011 22:00 GMT
#88
On May 27 2011 03:10 Wombatsavior wrote:
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On May 26 2011 16:15 iDrone wrote:
From Oklahoma, tornadoes are no joke... still weeks left in tornado season ;(


What gets me is how frequent we've been getting them this year. It is much higher than the average this year, by a lot, and the tornado that hit Joplin is considered the most damaging tornado around. Usually there are just maybe a few F5 tornadoes around each spring/summer. We've already gone past that record, and aren't even in the summer months yet. I'm worried how hectic and messy things will be by the end. With all the flooding down below, tornadoes here, insane mudslides in other parts of the world, natural disasters seem to be peaking at an all-time high, too frequent for my taste.

Here's hoping things aren't too bad by late summer.


You guys having been sucking away all our heat to make your tornados. Up here in southern oregon, we've had pretty much the coldest year so far on average I can ever remember. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the coldest year so far in recorded history, actually.
partisan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States783 Posts
May 26 2011 22:05 GMT
#89
On May 27 2011 05:57 NicolBolas wrote:
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On May 27 2011 01:48 partisan wrote:
[image loading]

A more dramatic version of the kind of clouds we've been seeing in the midwest for the last few weeks.


What... is that? I'm not sure I even understand what I'm seeing. That's the kind of cloud formation that precedes an alien invasion or something.



My knowledge is limited at best but I think you're seeing the mixing of hot air and cold air in that picture. Anything more than that I would have to defer to someone who knows far more about the subject
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Where dat snitch at?36956 Posts
May 26 2011 22:08 GMT
#90
T-T I'm so sad to hear this. I wish the best for all the people who experienced losses. Damn, I'm about to go to Purdue this fall. What happens if I die from a tornado? T-T
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 26 2011 22:11 GMT
#91
6 EF5's since 2007, 4 in the last week or so

Crazy!
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 22:13:04
May 26 2011 22:12 GMT
#92
On May 27 2011 07:05 partisan wrote:
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On May 27 2011 05:57 NicolBolas wrote:
On May 27 2011 01:48 partisan wrote:
[image loading]

A more dramatic version of the kind of clouds we've been seeing in the midwest for the last few weeks.


What... is that? I'm not sure I even understand what I'm seeing. That's the kind of cloud formation that precedes an alien invasion or something.



My knowledge is limited at best but I think you're seeing the mixing of hot air and cold air in that picture. Anything more than that I would have to defer to someone who knows far more about the subject


LOL, not to be condescending, but any thunderstorm is a mix of hot and cold air, but you're also kinda right since the bottom part is the leading edge of the thunderstorm near the surface where hot air begins to rise and 'mix' to create clouds/rain/hail/lightning. The top part is the 'anvil' of the cloud that forms from the rising hot air spreading out once it hits the stratosphere where it can't rise anymore.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 26 2011 22:39 GMT
#93
On May 27 2011 03:37 CrownRoyal wrote:
I live about 40 minutes from Joplin, MO

It's pretty unreal what happened there... like 30% of the town or something is gone... a town of 50000+ people I think

I have many friends who's houses are completely gone with horror stories of the whole thing.

I'll spoiler a blog written by a doctor at St. Johns a hospital that got destroyed by the tornado (my mom actually works at the freeman hospital she talks about and worked that night)

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My name is Dr. Kevin Kikta, and I was one of two emergency room doctors who were on duty at St. John’s Regional Medical Center in Joplin, MO on Sunday, May 22, 2011.

You never know that it will be the most important day of your life until the day is over. The day started like any other day for me: waking up, eating, going to the gym, showering, and going to my 4:00 pm ER shift. As I drove to the hospital I mentally prepared for my shift as I always do, but nothing could ever have prepared me for what was going to happen on this shift. Things were normal for the first hour and half. At approximately 5:30 pm we received a warning that a tornado had been spotted. Although I work in Joplin and went to medical school in Oklahoma, I live in New Jersey, and I have never seen or been in a tornado. I learned that a “code gray” was being called. We were to start bringing patients to safer spots within the ED and hospital.

At 5:42 pm a security guard yelled to everyone, “Take cover! We are about to get hit by a tornado!” I ran with a pregnant RN, Shilo Cook, while others scattered to various places, to the only place that I was familiar with in the hospital without windows, a small doctor’s office in the ED. Together, Shilo and I tremored and huddled under a desk. We heard a loud horrifying sound like a large locomotive ripping through the hospital. The whole hospital shook and vibrated as we heard glass shattering, light bulbs popping, walls collapsing, people screaming, the ceiling caving in above us, and water pipes breaking, showering water down on everything. We suffered this in complete darkness, unaware of anyone else’s status, worried, scared. We could feel a tight pressure in our heads as the tornado annihilated the hospital and the surrounding area. The whole process took about 45 seconds, but seemed like eternity. The hospital had just taken a direct hit from a category EF-4 tornado.

Then it was over. Just 45 seconds. 45 long seconds. We looked at each other, terrified, and thanked God that we were alive. We didn’t know, but hoped that it was safe enough to go back out to the ED, find the rest of the staff and patients, and assess our losses.

“Like a bomb went off. ” That’s the only way that I can describe what we saw next. Patients were coming into the ED in droves. It was absolute, utter chaos. They were limping, bleeding, crying, terrified, with debris and glass sticking out of them, just thankful to be alive. The floor was covered with about 3 inches of water, there was no power, not even backup generators, rendering it completely dark and eerie in the ED. The frightening aroma of methane gas leaking from the broken gas lines permeated the air; we knew, but did not dare mention aloud, what that meant. I redoubled my pace.

We had to use flashlights to direct ourselves to the crying and wounded. Where did all the flashlights come from? I’ll never know, but immediately, and thankfully, my years of training in emergency procedures kicked in. There was no power, but our mental generators were up and running, and on high test adrenaline. We had no cell phone service in the first hour, so we were not even able to call for help and backup in the ED.


I remember a patient in his early 20’s gasping for breath, telling me that he was going to die. After a quick exam, I removed the large shard of glass from his back, made the clinical diagnosis of a pneumothorax (collapsed lung) and gathered supplies from wherever I could locate them to insert a thoracostomy tube in him. He was a trooper; I’ll never forget his courage. He allowed me to do this without any local anesthetic since none could be found. With his life threatening injuries I knew he was running out of time, and it had to be done. Quickly. Imagine my relief when I heard a big rush of air, and breath sounds again; fortunately, I was able to get him transported out. I immediately moved on to the next patient, an asthmatic in status asthmaticus. We didn’t even have the option of trying a nebulizer treatment or steroids, but I was able to get him intubated using a flashlight that I held in my mouth. A small child of approximately 3-4 years of age was crying; he had a large avulsion of skin to his neck and spine. The gaping wound revealed his cervical spine and upper thoracic spine bones. I could actually count his vertebrae with my fingers. This was a child, his whole life ahead of him, suffering life threatening wounds in front of me, his eyes pleading me to help him.. We could not find any pediatric C collars in the darkness, and water from the shattered main pipes was once again showering down upon all of us. Fortunately, we were able to get him immobilized with towels, and start an IV with fluids and pain meds before shipping him out. We felt paralyzed and helpless ourselves. I didn’t even know a lot of the RN’s I was working with. They were from departments scattered all over the hospital. It didn’t matter. We worked as a team, determined to save lives. There were no specialists available -- my orthopedist was trapped in the OR. We were it, and we knew we had to get patients out of the hospital as quickly as possible. As we were shuffling them out, the fire department showed up and helped us to evacuate. Together we worked furiously, motivated by the knowledge and fear that the methane leaks could cause the hospital could blow up at any minute.

Things were no better outside of the ED. I saw a man crushed under a large SUV, still alive, begging for help; another one was dead, impaled by a street sign through his chest. Wounded people were walking, staggering, all over, dazed and shocked. All around us was chaos, reminding me of scenes in a war movie, or newsreels from bombings in Bagdad. Except this was right in front of me and it had happened in just 45 seconds. My own car was blown away. Gone. Seemingly evaporated. We searched within a half mile radius later that night, but never found the car, only the littered, crumpled remains of former cars. And a John Deere tractor that had blown in from miles away.

Tragedy has a way of revealing human goodness. As I worked, surrounded by devastation and suffering, I realized I was not alone. The people of the community of Joplin were absolutely incredible. Within minutes of the horrific event, local residents showed up in pickups and sport utility vehicles, all offering to help transport the wounded to other facilities, including Freeman, the trauma center literally across the street. Ironically, it had sustained only minimal damage and was functioning (although I’m sure overwhelmed). I carried on, grateful for the help of the community.

Within hours I estimated that over 100 EMS units showed up from various towns, counties and four different states. Considering the circumstances, their response time was miraculous. Roads were blocked with downed utility lines, smashed up cars in piles, and they still made it through.

We continued to carry patients out of the hospital on anything that we could find: sheets, stretchers, broken doors, mattresses, wheelchairs—anything that could be used as a transport mechanism.

As I finished up what I could do at St John’s, I walked with two RN’s, Shilo Cook and Julie Vandorn, to a makeshift MASH center that was being set up miles away at Memorial Hall. We walked where flourishing neighborhoods once stood, astonished to see only the disastrous remains of flattened homes, body parts, and dead people everywhere. I saw a small dog just wimpering in circles over his master who was dead, unaware that his master would not ever play with him again. At one point we tended to a young woman who just stood crying over her dead mother who was crushed by her own home. The young woman covered her mother up with a blanket and then asked all of us, “What should I do?” We had no answer for her, but silence and tears.

By this time news crews and photographers were starting to swarm around, and we were able to get a ride to Memorial Hall from another RN. The chaos was slightly more controlled at Memorial Hall. I was relieved to see many of my colleagues, doctors from every specialty, helping out. It was amazing to be able to see life again. It was also amazing to see how fast workers mobilized to set up this MASH unit under the circumstances. Supplies, food, drink, generators, exam tables, all were there—except pharmaceutical pain meds. I sutured multiple lacerations, and splinted many fractures, including some open with bone exposed, and then intubated another patient with severe COPD, slightly better controlled conditions this time, but still less than optimal.

But we really needed pain meds. I managed to go back to the St John’s with another physician, pharmacist, and a sheriff’s officer. Luckily, security let us in to a highly guarded pharmacy to bring back a garbage bucket sized supply of pain meds.

At about midnight I walked around the parking lot of St. John’s with local law enforcement officers looking for anyone who might be alive or trapped in crushed cars. They spray-painted “X”s on the fortunate vehicles that had been searched without finding anyone inside. The unfortunate vehicles wore “X’s” and sprayed-on numerals, indicating the number of dead inside, crushed in their cars, cars which now resembled flattened recycled aluminum cans the tornado had crumpled in her iron hands, an EF4 tornado, one of the worst in history, whipping through this quiet town with demonic strength. I continued back to Memorial hall into the early morning hours until my ER colleagues told me it was time for me to go home. I was completely exhausted. I had seen enough of my first tornado.

How can one describe these indescribable scenes of destruction? The next day I saw news coverage of this horrible, deadly tornado. It was excellent coverage, and Mike Bettes from the Weather Channel did a great job, but there is nothing that pictures and video can depict compared to seeing it in person. That video will play forever in my mind.

I would like to express my sincerest gratitude to everyone involved in helping during this nightmarish disaster. My fellow doctors, RN’s, techs, and all of the staff from St. John’s. I have worked at St John’s for approximately 2 years, and I have always been proud to say that I was a physician at St John’s in Joplin, MO. The smart, selfless and immediate response of the professionals and the community during this catastrophe proves to me that St John’s and the surrounding community are special. I am beyond proud.

To the members of this community, the health care workers from states away, and especially Freeman Medical Center, I commend everyone on unselfishly coming together and giving 110% the way that you all did, even in your own time of need. St John’s Regional Medical Center is gone, but her spirit and goodness lives on in each of you.

EMS, you should be proud of yourselves. You were all excellent, and did a great job despite incredible difficulties and against all odds

For all of the injured who I treated, although I do not remember your names (nor would I expect you to remember mine) I will never forget your faces. I’m glad that I was able to make a difference and help in the best way that I knew how, and hopefully give some of you a chance at rebuilding your lives again. For those whom I was not able to get to or treat, I apologize whole heartedly.

Last, but not least, thank you, and God bless you, Mercy/St John’s for providing incredible care in good times and even more so, in times of the unthinkable, and for all the training that enabled us to be a team and treat the people and save lives.

Sincerely,

Kevin J. Kikta, DO
Department of Emergency Medicine
Mercy/St John’s Regional Medical Center, Joplin, MO

God reading that description is heart wrenching. Just heart wrenching.
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Crush404
Profile Joined November 2010
United States27 Posts
May 26 2011 22:40 GMT
#94
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Picture of a Lowe's that was hit about a month or so back. No matter what you construct a home out of, it's never going to be tornado proof.

But really sad to hear about all the folks in Joplin. I work at a Lowe's in Kansas City, we sent a few trucks full of supplies their way, and supposedly shortly after they begin allowing volunteers for clean up/rebuilding they plan on sending a handful of us that way.
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
May 26 2011 22:48 GMT
#95
I live in St. Louis, where a few weeks ago a tornado wrecked tons of homes, but miraculously killed no one. It seems that Joplin got it much worse though It's such a tragedy, I'd really encourage anyone out there to donate some money, as they really need it.

My school raised over 1000 dollars for it in one day of fundraising. Pretty cool.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 26 2011 23:04 GMT
#96
Cement dome houses are the way to go, if only people were more willing to adapt then this wouldn't happen because safer homes would be built. Would take more cement, but cost-wise, it's about equal to a traditional home.
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
May 26 2011 23:18 GMT
#97
we've been getting slammed all week in Missouri by intermittent thunderstorms, and the tornadic threat has been high during this. Here (North side of columbia, Mo), on the day of the Joplin twister, we got a pretty bad thunderstorm, you know, torrential rain, gusting high speed winds, and some light hail. When I came into work the next day and heard about Joplin my jaw dropped. One of my managers is from there and all his buddies were sending pictures of crushed cars, demolished neighborhoods, and places where buildings *used* to be. I heard (no credibility) that an area containing a walmart, an apartment complex and a Lowes/Home depot (again, second hand facts here) was just....gone. that's insane; those are big, sturdy structures. If you've seen pictures of the hospital, it's crazy that anybody was left alive in the shell of what was that building.

Yesterday, just before going into work the tornado sirens went off as I was stepping out the door. I looked out the window and didn't see anything too threatening looking out to the northwest, but I wouldn't be able to see the sky in other directions until I drove a few minutes from my house. The radio was blaring the emergency signal; storm spotters were on the roads in *three* places on my way to work (for emphasis, I live literally like a 2 minute drive from where I work). I talked to a pair of spotters and they said they didn't see anything yet, but word was it was going to get bad in a few minutes. Upon arrival I stopped and got out of my truck and now clearly able to see sky for a fair distance in all directions, I saw angry black clouds both directly south and to the south east. Looking directly up the clouds looked as if they were boiling down to the surface from their lofty position in the sky and the wind was crazy already, shifting direction constantly and at high speed. I walked inside and everybody in the store was already sitting under the mezzanine in the center of the building (by far the sturdiest area of the building) and were chilling to wait out the storm. I had literally just unwittingly walked in minutes ahead of the storm, which picked up with intense winds, hail and so much rain you wouldn't believe it. Afterwards, we heard that two funnels had touched down not that far, one one Grindstone (south) and another near B road (literally just a handful of miles north). After hearing that the city of California had a supercell producing tornadoes on track to come our way, a threat that never materialized ( it tracked south of us) nothing else happened the rest of the day except some gnarly cloud formations all across the southern and eastern skies.

I've never personally experienced firsthand the effects of a tornado, but I can attest to their power and of the storms that create them. On the day of the tornado outbreak that hit and destroyed a good portion of Stockton in 2003, tar paper rained down in our yard, carried about 90-100 miles as the crow flies from my parent's home. The storms that day were powerful...the one that hit us at home dropped an accumulation of somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-8 inches of dime-sized hail. I will never forget that sight for the rest of my life...trees stripped of leaves and small branches, grass laid flat, flowers smashed to the ground...from mass hail it was piled up everywhere like a shit-ton of snow, and it all fell in minutes, and melted away just as quickly.
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Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 27 2011 00:07 GMT
#98
Yeah we had a tornado in Tennessee, ripped through the burbs around Memphis. The penny-sized hail was nuts.
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Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
May 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#99
stupid question but are tornadoes able to lift cars? cuz in movies and shows they do but on youtube, never seen it o,o
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United States41117 Posts
May 27 2011 01:59 GMT
#100
On May 27 2011 10:57 P3T3R wrote:
stupid question but are tornadoes able to lift cars? cuz in movies and shows they do but on youtube, never seen it o,o



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