On May 16 2011 14:07 InsideTheBox wrote: Paying for anything with more than 20 coins is dick move. I'm sure many people disagree with me, with good reason, but that's really just how I feel. Honestly, just take the 5% haircut from the coin machine and pay in bills.
Coinstar is a practice of usury and it's 8.9% and that furnishes further grist for their mills. The less fortunate people who find 'spare change' to buy something lose even more than necessary. It's an extra usury charge on poor people.
Hard to call it usury (at least in the modern sense of the word) when one can take rolled change into their own bank without a fee (many banks even provide use of a Coinstar machine free to their customers). It provides a service for a price, in the same spirit as e.g. getting your taxes done by a professional instead of doing them yourself. Is there some percentage at which this becomes reasonable? Because establishments can set the overhead percentage on their machines individually, and most set it to lower than the default.
Now, e.g. check-cashing establishments in poor neighborhoods are definitely usurious and reprehensible, but I can't say that this particular issue bothers me at all.
VERNAL, Utah -- A Utah man has been cited on a charge of disorderly conduct after paying for a disputed medical bill with 2,500 pennies.
The Deseret News of Salt Lake City reports Jason West went to Basin Clinic in Vernal on May 27 prepared to dispute an outstanding $25 bill.
Assistant Vernal Police Chief Keith Campbell says that after asking staff members whether they accepted cash, West dumped 2,500 pennies on the counter and demanded that staff count them.
Campbell says the incident upset staff because pennies were strewn about the counter and floor, and West's action served "no legitimate purpose."
Police later issued the 38-year-old West a citation for disorderly conduct. That carries a fine of as much as $140. Or 14,000 pennies.
just noticed last post was half a month ago hopefully this was ok^_^
I work at a gas station, and the only time it pisses me off is when someone throws a completely random pile of change down on the counter and says "I want this much on gas" and then runs through the door without even telling me which pump they are on.
Not rude at all! Maybe if you just carried a random bag of change and dropped it while only pennies and nickels and forced them to count it lol. Pre-counted and organized is no different than bills.
On May 13 2011 15:34 Skvid wrote: This thread reminded me the event that happened here (lithuania) back in 1999, one famous celebrity payed his 15,000 litas fine in cents. + Show Spoiler +
A University of Calgary student paid his tuition with more than 90 kilograms of nickels and dimes Monday, protesting the university's recent decision to stop accepting credit card payments.
Undergraduate political science student Teale Phelps Bondaroff told CBC News that he paid his spring session tuition in nickels and dimes because "the government and the university are nickel-and-diming students."
Phelps Bondaroff said his $1,037 tuition payment, to cover two classes, weighed more than 90 kilograms and was toted to the finance office in a wheelbarrow using "brute strength and determination." He said the weight nearly broke the wheelbarrow.
He said the finance office didn't seem to mind taking the payment in change, which was rolled rather than loose, and it didn't take very long to complete the transaction.
Phelps Bondaroff, who has run for the provincial New Democratic Party and is a representative on student council, said he was making a statement as a private student to protest both the scrapping of payments by plastic and high tuition.
The stunt signals "it’s time for change” in the university policy, he quipped.
"If tuition was lower, students could pay with cash," he said. "Essentially, what the university is doing with this is they're shifting the transaction costs … on to students with money transfer, or bank draft, or whatever."
The government, in turn, is squeezing students by not providing adequate funding to the school, he said.
Students first found out on March 18 that effective July 1 the school would no longer accept credit card payments for tuition. The school announced the change on its enrolment website.
“The fact that the university didn’t consult with the students is probably the worst part,” Phelps Bondaroff said, adding that the student council wasn't involved in the decision either.
He said the change has been ill-received on campus and that it could put students in a real bind. For example, student loan payments do not always come in before the date that tuition is due, forcing students to secure loans elsewhere or use an overdraft.
The university said scrapping payments by plastic would save more than $700,000 per year in transaction fees that it could invest in scholarships.
Phelps Bondaroff said that the scholarships would help a select few students, but the change would transfer costs to all students.
Full-time undergraduate students at U of C pay $4,740 in tuition, which is being hiked by 4.6 per cent, or about $200 per student, in the next academic year.
A whole bunch of students and the University of Alberta were talking about doing this a couple years ago as well for similar reasons... The U just sent out an announcement to all students citing the currency act saying that they didn't have to accept coins on anything over $100 or something and that coin payments would be refused, in one sense they were shutting down a student protest but mostly I think that's fair.
As for the issue discussed, depending on the amount, the $8 > that you are talking about in Canada could be 4 toonies which is fine, I pay for a pint in change all the time but anything breaking $15 ish is getting a little annoying although I would never carry that many coins around in the first place.
Unless of course you're tipping $15 in coins, don't think there'd be reason for complaint there for the most part... that's how I get rid of my coins.
VERNAL, Utah -- A Utah man has been cited on a charge of disorderly conduct after paying for a disputed medical bill with 2,500 pennies.
The Deseret News of Salt Lake City reports Jason West went to Basin Clinic in Vernal on May 27 prepared to dispute an outstanding $25 bill.
Assistant Vernal Police Chief Keith Campbell says that after asking staff members whether they accepted cash, West dumped 2,500 pennies on the counter and demanded that staff count them.
Campbell says the incident upset staff because pennies were strewn about the counter and floor, and West's action served "no legitimate purpose."
Police later issued the 38-year-old West a citation for disorderly conduct. That carries a fine of as much as $140. Or 14,000 pennies.
just noticed last post was half a month ago hopefully this was ok^_^
lol I JUST went to go post this, I even searched up the thread as I assumed it hadn't been bumped. Damn, beaten to the punch.
Crazy though, since pennies are legal tender, I don't understand why you can't do that.
It doesn't matter if it's rude. You're a paying customer. You may inconvenience someone for a few seconds but you are saving yourself a lot of money by not going to a coinstar or something
When I received coin payments during my time at a cash register it was actually rather convenient in that I would help the register maintain a healthy supply of coins. That said, it does take an extra few seconds to count them all and if the register needs more coins I can just pop another stack of them. Still, it's not like I'd be doing anything more compelling in the meanwhile, so it's by no means an affront or a waste of my time.
it's their f*ing job. they can clean up your puke in the bathroom and wipe your table, but ohhhhh @!#$ you just paid with coins instead of bills!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
On May 13 2011 14:42 XDJuicebox wrote: Hello, fellow TeamLiquid posters!!!
So my friends and I regularly LAN Starcraft, and after online tournament matches, or when we just get bored, what we do is we all go out as a group and we eat.
Unfortunately, I ran my allowance dry a while ago, but I have 11 years of accumulated change saved up in my room.
So I started paying for my meals this way, in mainly Quarters and Dimes.
My friend told me that this was rude, even though I organized the dimes into piles of 10 and the Quarters into piles of 4. It was easily distinguishable. I even specifically told the waitress to be careful with that, and that I already counted it for her.
She laughed at me and winked. Lol.
Which brings up my question. Is it rude to pay in coins if I pre-stack it for them?
EDIT: I paid for the meal in coins. I actually only spent like 7.85, but it was paid in coins. The lady thought I was funny.
I mean you can be a dick about it, and throw it at the lady and scream at her, "Count this bitch."
Or
You can put some energy and thought into it like you did. I would just saying something like, "I'm really sorry, but I don't have any dollars bills, but here's some change I organized. Again, sorry about any hassle." Just make it clear that you're not being a dick. I think context matters alot, but some people are naturally going to be ticked off and some will find it funny, but you can also influence some people's reaction.
if its large than 5$ its extremely rude to pay in change in my opinion. It is such an inconvenience for the people working and for people trying to pay after you, who now have to wait for your change to be counted. just my $.02 hahahaha sry i had to.
But ya get ur change turned into cash if your going to spend it imo. Hassle yourself instead of making a hassle for other people. basically by paying in change your saying "im too lazy to get this turned into bills..enjoy counting."
whereas imo u should just take the time to get it exchanged into bills at a bank or coin machine.
I've used coins to buy weed from dealer in the past (on the multiple occasions, but only in 5 or 10 dollar amounts - mind you). His response when I asked if he's cool with me doing this "Shiet, as long as it add up" and another time I asked he responded "Money's money. I don't discriminate"
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