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Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
May 09 2011 14:23 GMT
#61
Exactly, I hate when this happens
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Kaoriyu
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada276 Posts
May 09 2011 14:26 GMT
#62
I know what you mean at the 0:27 mark OP>.<. I dislike dubstep very much, at first the song sounds really good..until the dubstep kicks in and turns it into a total mess.

I'm not hating on people who listen to dubstep but man it's a total turn off. Just my opinion.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
May 09 2011 14:26 GMT
#63
i seriously lol'd at both videos while reading the captions :p I guess if you listen to good ol dubstep and trance, you'll have to deal with some annoying elements, just like how we have to deal with all sorts of crap in regular pop music.
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~ava
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 14:37:49
May 09 2011 14:37 GMT
#64
This type of music is meant to be danced to; are you complaining because you think the music 'could be better' or because you aren't getting what you expect and therefore can't dance to it the way you want? Maybe the people making the music are striving for a bit more complexity. I'm not familiar with these genres of music, if you don't mind me using an analogy it's like you're hoping to hear regular beats (pop music) and you are getting alternative instead and you're wondering what's going on.

I tried listening to every youtube clip in this thread but I don't feel anything listening to this music, I don't experience anything and it just seems like a bunch of blips and swooshy noises, in my view disappointing. Edit: maybe it's better with drugs?
Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 15:01:30
May 09 2011 14:59 GMT
#65
If you can't dance to these drops, just practice with dancing to breakcore!

Meatt
Profile Joined September 2010
United States98 Posts
May 09 2011 15:14 GMT
#66


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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
May 09 2011 15:37 GMT
#67
I agree with the OP wholeheartedly, its why I really why don't care for dubstep.
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
May 09 2011 15:43 GMT
#68
both those songs were too generic for me to get any awesome feeling. though im not a fan of that genre. there is lots of anticlimax or whatever in any genre though to be honest.
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
May 09 2011 15:51 GMT
#69
On May 09 2011 18:30 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 17:18 JediGamer wrote:
It is a shame that dubstep and electronic are in the same category.


Seriously Dubstep is so annoying >.<

My problem is the fact that it sorta loses itself in its own genre definition and there's not a lot of re-imagining going on. They could tap into some other genres like power noise or aggro or even pull it back a little more into melodic/ambient and waft some fresh vapors into the whole thing.

As it is now I consider Dubstep to be to Techno what Country/Western is to Rock.
teekesselchen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany886 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 16:08:09
May 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#70
Actually I find it refreshing to have a certain amount of music drastically opposing any kind of "climax-anticlimax" structures. For example I find Burial and Hudson Mohawke to have some of the coolest structural concepts.

By the way even when many people don't even recognize it as Dubstep these days, Burials first album "Burial" was recognized as the first true Dubstep album by many critics and listeners!
It kinda shows how dubstep without climaxes work, and this might actually be considered the original form of dubstep.



Very much opposed to that, Hardstyle on the other hand always has a climax, since it basically lives off climaxes.

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couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 17:03:15
May 09 2011 16:55 GMT
#71
On May 09 2011 22:41 OPman wrote:
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On May 09 2011 21:18 Derez wrote:
On May 09 2011 20:49 Suisen wrote:
People that create this kind of music just don't know how to write music. This is the result.

People that make electronic music ignore everything that we have learned a about music before them. They live in a word of their own and don't realize the rules of music are universal. The creators of this music aren't interested in what chords are, what harmony is, etc.

One of the main reason is probably because many don't play an instrument and can't improvise anyway. They just copy paste together stuff until they find something that sounds good.

In classical music form is of the utmost important. Every musical element needs to be handled with meticulous care.

Music is both an art and a science. I don't think people in the electronic music world realize either of them.
People just lack an academic background.



This is total BS. Some of the greatest (classical) music ever written was written by people with hardly any formal music education at all. And most of the 'academic' music that's currently made is absolutely horrific and are pretty much scientific knockoffs of things that have been done 20 times before.

Music requires creativity, not formal education, without this creativity any formal education is useless. Having it, and then receiving a formal education helps some, hurts others. Music isn't math and it sure as hell shouldn't be taught like it.


What you're misunderstanding is that the classic composers that didn't have a "formal education" still understanded the fundamentals of composing and their creativity blows any kind of modern dubstep garbage out of the water.

I'm not just hating on dubstep, the music industry and easily satisfied minds have turned away from what's truly good in music and are just looking for "the next big thing" so to speak.
Well you have to look at what dubstep did to itself. By being defined in that genre any of the creativity that the person making it becomes limited within that genre. This is why I hate specific genres and subgenres of music. It severely restricts artists creativity. It happens very often in metal and popular country. It's actually really bad in metal.

Check out Morbid Angel. They're credited with being one of the catalysts for American death metal. If you ask them what their style is they say "oh we're just a regular metal band, that's all. We play what the fuck we want to as long as it's heavy and brutal." Look at discography reviews and you have fans who love the first album but hate the rest because they didn't make five copies of that first album. Like dude, if you want to listen to a band that never changes their sound and can't ever top their hit album within those limits, listen to Slayer.

An easier example is Metallica. They they put out Fade to Black on Ride the Lightning and fans are "uh, what is this girly shit we can't like this it! But the rest of the album slays so that's ok...forgiven." Then Black Album comes out? They're done. Alienated the fans who wanted to restrict what would be acceptable for them to play. But in their case they went where there would be more fans. Anyways.

This is happening right now in dubstep albeit in a different almost opposite way. The pressure to make dubstep a specific way so that it is a hit with fans is so great that rarely are people experimenting with it anymore. You have old dubstep fans who have been into it for the last ten years. Then the last 3 when it got popular all the dubstep changed into one specific sound and rarely goes outside those borders. Boring, and that's why it generates hate.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
May 09 2011 18:03 GMT
#72
Oh god now I know how my girlfriend feels...
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Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
May 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#73
Yeah, I can 110% put myself into this. I hate it. Listening to a new song.
Wait for it.. It's going to be great.

Anti-Climax..

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Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 19:16:42
May 09 2011 19:16 GMT
#74
Hahah, this is exactly the kind of thing that turned me off of electronic music and pushed me into metal. Too few video games do it, too. Music in video games seems to have become a minor sidenote in the last decade, where there just doesn't seem to be as much effort into using music to make the experience more amazing.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 09 2011 19:19 GMT
#75
i mostly account it to the fact most music isn't played as singles but as a larger set; and that its more apparent in slower tempo styles
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#76
while on the topic, im gonna recommend my most favorite climatic mix of all time ...

http://mixes.djfez.com/mixes/326/
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Carkis
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada302 Posts
May 09 2011 19:33 GMT
#77
i think the anticlimx is great but in moderation idk a ton on the subject tho but interesting thread
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
May 09 2011 19:36 GMT
#78
On May 10 2011 04:33 Carkis wrote:
i think the anticlimx is great but in moderation idk a ton on the subject tho but interesting thread


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Moldwood
Profile Joined April 2011
United States280 Posts
May 09 2011 19:42 GMT
#79
Sorry to break it to you OP but a lot of the people who tend to make electronica these days are not ACTUAL musicians. It becomes evident that, even when no instruments are required, they don't really know how to compose a song at the end of the say. : /
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ReaVU
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden69 Posts
May 09 2011 19:46 GMT
#80
On May 10 2011 03:03 Phayze wrote:
Oh god now I know how my girlfriend feels...


Ba-dum-pich!

I haven't really heard many songs with some anticlimax, but instead I have parts in songs that really ruin it for me and just makes me wonder what happened.



Totally awesome at 1:45 and forth. 2:12, here it comes, hold on! 2:19, what is this I don't even... That small, bright melody that comes in just kills it for me. It always make me shake my head in disappointment. Sweet song otherwise!
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