Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
On May 02 2011 14:00 dicius wrote: It´s funny how you NORTH americans think that Osama Bin Laden was the one to cause 9/11. You are too easy to brain-wash. Did you know he was friend with Bush Sr. and the U.S. government. Also, have you EVER received another attack than 9/11?. And I mean on U.S important citys like 9/11 was. It was an inside job for the U.S to enter the middle east with the excuse to find Osama and " kill the bad guys" while stealing their oil and their goods. I´m not saying this to minimize the U.S, it´s a great country but it´s funny how you are all brainwashed.
Actually Osama was ostracized by Saudi Royalty and the rest of his family, the ones Bush is friends with. His assets were frozen by the Saudi government once he was obviously going rogue. If you track Bin Laden's rhetoric back, he clearly had issues with the West (and specifically the US) as soon as the Second Gulf War went down.
On May 02 2011 14:01 CaptainFwiffo wrote: I was in second grade when the Challenger exploded. It was something terrible and everyone was experiencing it together. In some ways it was my first "adult" experience, because I learned the world was sometimes a pretty horrible place (it was similar for the Tienanmen square massacre).
For a kids who are in college now were just 8-12 when 9/11 happened. Their entire adolescence and adulthood has experienced an America going though this decade-long, depressed, impotent funk. This is like V-Day, or the fall of the Berlin wall or at least the Miracle on Ice.
Not really. This is ultimately only a symbolic victory, nothing really substantive or game-changing.
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA?
I heard something (probably not reliable) that Australia had some of the best training? Lol, not that that means they have better special forces teams but yeah. Confirm anyone? Just curious.
Australia has good training but to suggest any country other than the US has the best Special Forces is ridiculous. Israel would probably second.
China? Russia? And what how do you know which special force is better, as in, how is it measured?
On May 02 2011 14:00 dicius wrote: It´s funny how you NORTH americans think that Osama Bin Laden was the one to cause 9/11. You are too easy to brain-wash. Did you know he was friend with Bush Sr. and the U.S. government. Also, have you EVER received another attack than 9/11?. And I mean on U.S important citys like 9/11 was. It was an inside job for the U.S to enter the middle east with the excuse to find Osama and " kill the bad guys" while stealing their oil and their goods. I´m not saying this to minimize the U.S, it´s a great country but it´s funny how you are all brainwashed.
Actually, it's quite a bit more profound than that. It's funny, people like you. You immediately prey on the morons of the world that know too little about the motive behind intervening in Afghanistan & Central Asia, but then it's ironic because you yourselves don't see the necessity. It wasn't about securing US interests. It was about - and still is about - bringing stability to the region that could potentially become the most tumultuous hotbed for terrorism and incubator of extremism in the world.
You are slightly right, with your rough allusion to the Cold War era, but you really ought to read two books to get your head straight.
I suggest you try Ahmed Rashid, international advisor and acclaimed Pakistani journalist: Descent into Chaos Taliban
Intervention in Afghanistan is necessary to mitigate an exacerbation of the global drug market problem, the nuclear instability problem, and the international terrorism problem. It is also important because millions of people deserve political, economic, and social reform within the very same region.
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA?
Im sure all the Highly trained special forces from the top countries are more or less equal.
If you want to be objective, it's safe to call US Special Operations Forces "the best". They aren't necessarily better athletes or smarter men with larger hearts, but they are better funded. That's the difference. Training, at this point, is streamlined and compatible between SAS and US SF etc, so you really can't compare in that regard... But with regard to money, you can. The US has drastically increased funding for SOF since 2001 - annual expenditures on SOF now far exceed that of British & other nations.
Yup thats for sure, the US military without a doubt has the best funding.
On May 02 2011 14:00 On_Slaught wrote: Watch this video from last night at 2:15 where Meyer gives a joke about Bin Laden... then look at Obamas reaction.
People need to stop with this Special Forces dick measuring contest. Most of you guys need to understand that at that level most of the special forces train in each others schools and work together. For example, want to join the Marine Special Forces Command? Get ready to go the the US Army Ranger School for a bit, ect
The intelligence staff who worked for years to track him down deserve a medal. I want to see them on every talk show for months. The soldiers should get credit as well but the guys who did the intelligence work are also heros.
Can everyone just shut up with this worthless debate and just enjoy the moment? We just killed Osama fucking bin Laden after almost ten years of trying. That calls for partisanless celebration in my book.
On May 02 2011 14:01 CaptainFwiffo wrote: I was in second grade when the Challenger exploded. It was something terrible and everyone was experiencing it together. In some ways it was my first "adult" experience, because I learned the world was sometimes a pretty horrible place (it was similar for the Tienanmen square massacre).
For a kids who are in college now were just 8-12 when 9/11 happened. Their entire adolescence and adulthood has experienced an America going though this decade-long, depressed, impotent funk. This is like V-Day, or the fall of the Berlin wall or at least the Miracle on Ice.
Not really. This is ultimately only a symbolic victory, nothing really substantive or game-changing.
Which is why I listed the fall of the Berlin wall and the Miracle on Ice, which were both symbolic victories.
I have some pictures taken from my shitty cell phone camera that I'll post in a blog lol, there were literally 10,000 people there, mostly college students, outside climbing trees and lamp posts hanging american flags all over the place and chanting and singing haha
This is freakin awesome, I can't go to sleep!! This really calls for a celebration or party of some sort. I'm not saying a national holiday, but me and my buds are definitely going to do something tonight!
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