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Keep it civil guys. Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally. Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan. This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:52 iamho wrote: ![[image loading]](http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/science/assets_c/2011/05/GoogleMapsOsama-thumb-600x331-49416.jpg) Osama's compound is already on Google maps. Apparently the mansion he was hiding in was located near a hospital, a university, and a police station. Also it seems there was a playground right across the street. Cannot find that. | ||
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Gimmickkz
154 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA? I heard something (probably not reliable) that Australia had some of the best training? Lol, not that that means they have better special forces teams but yeah. Confirm anyone? Just curious. | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:52 borny wrote: Too bad he was killed and not brought to trail. Also, it's not like this fixes anything. Sure, one top figure was killed, but Al-Qaeda is still around and Afghanistan will continue being a mess. Also its not like you read any of the posts in this thread at all either. Been said 20 times. Keep beating the dead horse by thinking that you are enlightening people in here to your great wisdom. Cause you assume we are totally blinded and diluted. We are all just cowboys with no brains. We know this but thanks for trying to share your obvious ability to state the obvious. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:42 StorkHwaiting wrote: Anyone got a calculator want to add up the total cost of killing this man? That'll do wonders for morale. put that up against the total cost of his attacks on our country. i dont think anyone will care about the price tag | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:45 TheTenthDoc wrote: Not to take away from a fantastic team but I think Mossad teams rival (and probably exceed) any U.S. special forces in sheer ability. Stuff and nonsense. What do you mean by ability? 1) This operation did not involve U.S. Special Forces. It involved SEALs - members of the Special Operations Forces community. Not Special Forces. Special Forces fulfill a different role, and that role is not perfectly interchangeable with that of SEALs, nor is it interchangeable with that of PJs, Rangers, and so on. 2) SEALs are among the best in the world concerning objective Direct Action/Conventional capability. Operators serving with Mossad teams are likely skilled and drawn from other Special Operations Forces sectors within the Israeli military, but there is no objective reason to call them better. Perhaps too many movies? Fact of the matter is, SEALs undergo multiple multi-week long shooter schools, including multiple schools teaching CQB techniques incorporating almost every weapons system into the courses. 3) Mossad is akin to CIA - aka, paramilitary, and not military. They operate in close conjunction, and many times Mossad/CIA will draw upon SEALs/Rangers/etc to fulfill Direct Action roles. Example: CIA and CAG - Combat Activities Group (Special Activities Division, CIA) & Delta | ||
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borny
China481 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:53 Gimmickkz wrote: Right, and too bad the sun shines because that means it will be dark again sometime? -.- Sorry, I'm not going to ruin your fun. Just saying ^^ | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA? Im sure all the Highly trained special forces from the top countries are more or less equal. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
Oh and consider how lucky we are that he was killed during the Obama administration. Maybe if they got him during the Bush administration we'd have McCain-Palin in the White House right now. | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
Those pictures from the US Naval Academy are great! | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA? Honestly I doubt any civilians could give an accurate estimation fo who the "best" special ops group in the world is though if I had to guess I would say it's probably a toss up between Mossad and one of the various US forces, it doesn't really matter though, beyond a certain point they're all capable of doing what their jobs require (e.g. sniping Somali terrorists and killing Osama Bin Laden with no casualties) and certainly the US, UK, Israeli, and various other forces are all at this level. | ||
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400lb White Girl
United States83 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:53 zatic wrote: He actually never did. Not saying he didn't do it of course, but he never directly claimed responsibility. He didn't? There are videos and even this. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2004/10/29/binladen_message041029.html | ||
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RxN
United States255 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:55 Gimmickkz wrote: I heard something (probably not reliable) that Australia had some of the best training? Lol, not that that means they have better special forces teams but yeah. Confirm anyone? Just curious. The Australian special forces are held in very high regard by the other countries fighting in Afghanistan. Same goes for the British and some others. They're all interchangeable. Each has it strengths but they're all the best of the best and you couldn't go wrong choosing one over the other. | ||
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Pughy
Wales662 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:55 Gimmickkz wrote: I heard something (probably not reliable) that Australia had some of the best training? Lol, not that that means they have better special forces teams but yeah. Confirm anyone? Just curious. Lol well I guess they're all on a very similar level, especially countries like US, Isreal, UK, Aus as they're all allies and might share training. Its not like we could ever truely find out, lets have a BO1 US vs UK, last team left alive wins  | ||
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Jergen
United States136 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:58 Pughy wrote: Lol well I guess they're all on a very similar level, especially countries like US, Isreal, UK, Aus as they're all allies and might share training. Its not like we could ever truely find out, lets have a BO1 US vs UK, last team left alive wins Deadliest Warrior | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:56 FallDownMarigold wrote: Stuff and nonsense. What do you mean by ability? 1) This operation did not involve U.S. Special Forces. It involved SEALs - members of the Special Operations Forces community. Not Special Forces. Special Forces fulfill a different role, and that role is not perfectly interchangeable with that of SEALs, nor is it interchangeable with that of PJs, Rangers, and so on. 2) SEALs are among the best in the world concerning objective Direct Action/Conventional capability. Operators serving with Mossad teams are likely skilled and drawn from other Special Operations Forces sectors within the Israeli military, but there is no objective reason to call them better. Perhaps too many movies? Fact of the matter is, SEALs undergo multiple multi-week long shooter schools, including multiple schools teaching CQB techniques incorporating almost every weapons system into the courses. 3) Mossad is akin to CIA - aka, paramilitary, and not military. They operate in close conjunction, and many times Mossad/CIA will draw upon SEALs/Rangers/etc to fulfill Direct Action roles. Example: CIA and CAG - Combat Activities Group (Special Activities Division, CIA) & Delta My apologies, the original post I was responding indicated Special Forces, not the SEALs. And as for the last part, I keep hearing the Delta Force moniker bandied about; is that Delta or something else? I later said I don't know that much about official designations or separations, I just trust the Mossad more because otherwise Israel probably wouldn't still exist. And again, I don't want to take anything away from any of the forces, it was just my urge to avoid Amerocentrism.  | ||
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BadWithNames
United States441 Posts
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Gimmickkz
154 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:56 borny wrote: Sorry, I'm not going to ruin your fun. Just saying ^^ Yeah I know, but we should put all that to the side for now. This is a great victory, and mistake it for nothing but, for the world in general, and it's something we should celebrate in full. Let those affected have their glorious moment 10 years overdue. | ||
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mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:55 Gimmickkz wrote: I heard something (probably not reliable) that Australia had some of the best training? Lol, not that that means they have better special forces teams but yeah. Confirm anyone? Just curious. What would Australia be training for? No, it's all bias | ||
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johanngrunt
Hong Kong1555 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:43 BadWithNames wrote: TL.net could find the downside to a box of kittens... You've never had a box of kittens. they stink kinda bad....... cute as all fuck, but they stink XD (god forbid they somehow get out of the box and plant some spider mines in your shoes) | ||
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Poyo
Canada790 Posts
On May 02 2011 13:54 Pughy wrote: I thought the British SAS were the best special forces team in the world? Not really so much bias there its just I heard that before. Navy seals are pretty baller though, and I'm sure Mossad is more then just the Israely CIA? Mossad is the Israeli intelligence agency, the Israeli military has several special operation units that could be compared to the SAS, SEALS, Delta ect. As for comparing spec ops units to one another, its really not an easy thing to do. Different units have different ultimate agendas. Other than pure experience, which only members of the intelligence community might know about, Its pretty much impossible to compare them. | ||
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