EPT[M] The Dark Knight Rises (SPOILERS) - Page 26
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MadMaxMKII
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On December 17 2011 20:01 MadMaxMKII wrote: actually i'm not impressed. don't think that the figure of bane can shine like the joker...also the trailer wasn't that spectacular. It's always going to be tough living up to Ledger's joker. However, I would be perfectly fine if they focus less on the villains and more on Bruce Wayne/Batman and really flesh out his story and conclude it. Bane looks pretty cool so far and Tom Hardy is a good actor so I'm not really worried. Overall, I can't wait to catch this at IMAX. | ||
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Ashworth
United Kingdom185 Posts
On December 17 2011 20:17 Telcontar wrote: It's always going to be tough living up to Ledger's joker. However, I would be perfectly fine if they focus less on the villains and more on Bruce Wayne/Batman and really flesh out his story and conclude it. Bane looks pretty cool so far and Tom Hardy is a good actor so I'm not really worried. Overall, I can't wait to catch this at IMAX. I hope the opposite, TDK was so good because Joker was almost the main character. I hope TDKR goes further away from the main character and shows as much depth to bane, catwoman and gordan as it does for Batman. But I don't really like superhero films. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On December 17 2011 20:31 Ashworth wrote: I hope the opposite, TDK was so good because Joker was almost the main character. I hope TDKR goes further away from the main character and shows as much depth to bane, catwoman and gordan as it does for Batman. But I don't really like superhero films. http://batman-news.com/2011/01/31/the-dark-knight-rises-is-bruce-waynes-story/ Nolan has already said that TDKR is more about Bruce Wayne/Batman. I can understand why you wouldn't want it that way seeing how you're not a fan of superheroes or the character of batman, but the majority of viewers care more for him than the villians. It is only right that the story of batman focuses on him. | ||
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
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Shai
Canada806 Posts
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
On December 17 2011 21:34 Shai wrote: I'm really sorry to make this sidestep, but is Batman really a superhero? Isn't he just a hero/vigilante? I thought a big part of his draw was that he did not have any "super" to him. He's not really, just got lumped together with all the others for marketing purposes. | ||
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
Beside the point, but the reasons Batman took the blame for the deaths at the end of TDK were those provided by the Sal Maroni character. His secret was out - he doesn't kill. By contrast, the Joker was unpredictable, lethal, and merciless. The criminals were more afraid of not aligning themselves with the Joker than they were of Batman. In essence, he lost some of his mystery and the 'power' he held over the city's criminals. He took the blame because in order to keep fighting the good fight, he needed to be seen as a little more Joker and a little less boy scout. You know, I had never thought about this before, it's a really good point that doesn't really get addressed much. Batman will beat the shit out of you, but in a sense if you KNOW that he won't kill you, you're better off his enemy than someone who will (in a crazy town like Gotham) | ||
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:10 CaptainCharisma wrote: Not looking forward to this at all. Nolan has taken Batman in completely the wrong direction - Batman Begins and TDK are sore reminders of this. Batman is for kids, first and foremost, adding in all this dark vibe shit and dialogue about duality and what makes someone a hero doesn't interest kids. The main reason Batman got so enormously popular in the first place was kids could and did enjoy the Adam West version and the films of 1989 through the 90s, and of course the comics, because they were aimed at children. Who buys Batman comics these days? Barely anybody, and those that do sure as hell aren't kids. Are you...being serious? | ||
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YipMan
372 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:10 CaptainCharisma wrote: Not looking forward to this at all. Nolan has taken Batman in completely the wrong direction - Batman Begins and TDK are sore reminders of this. Batman is for kids, first and foremost, adding in all this dark vibe shit and dialogue about duality and what makes someone a hero doesn't interest kids. The main reason Batman got so enormously popular in the first place was kids could and did enjoy the Adam West version and the films of 1989 through the 90s, and of course the comics, because they were aimed at children. Who buys Batman comics these days? Barely anybody, and those that do sure as hell aren't kids. Just a matter of taste, the Batman movies by Tim Burton you mentioned are pretty pretty "dark vibed" too tho. And they are great. Im glad its going this direction again, because the movies directed by Schumacher are awful. If you enjoy seeing the same thing over and over again, go grab your shark spray and watch Adam West... I think it is rediculous | ||
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Plague1503
Croatia466 Posts
Here's why. Yeah, it's all speculation, but at the same time, it all really makes sense. | ||
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:10 CaptainCharisma wrote: Not looking forward to this at all. Nolan has taken Batman in completely the wrong direction - Batman Begins and TDK are sore reminders of this. Batman is for kids, first and foremost, adding in all this dark vibe shit and dialogue about duality and what makes someone a hero doesn't interest kids. The main reason Batman got so enormously popular in the first place was kids could and did enjoy the Adam West version and the films of 1989 through the 90s, and of course the comics, because they were aimed at children. Who buys Batman comics these days? Barely anybody, and those that do sure as hell aren't kids. Batman's surge in popularity in the 90s was partial due to moving away from the camp for the dark, e.g., Batman: the Animated Series considered to be one of the greatest cartoon series of all time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10881 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:35 Kambing wrote: Batman's surge in popularity in the 90s was partial due to moving away from the camp for the dark, e.g., Batman: the Animated Series considered to be one of the greatest cartoon series of all time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series For a children comic/series Batman: The Animated Series was pretty dark. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:10 CaptainCharisma wrote: Not looking forward to this at all. Nolan has taken Batman in completely the wrong direction - Batman Begins and TDK are sore reminders of this. Batman is for kids, first and foremost, adding in all this dark vibe shit and dialogue about duality and what makes someone a hero doesn't interest kids. The main reason Batman got so enormously popular in the first place was kids could and did enjoy the Adam West version and the films of 1989 through the 90s, and of course the comics, because they were aimed at children. Who buys Batman comics these days? Barely anybody, and those that do sure as hell aren't kids. You're stuck in the Silver Age my friend. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
the new teaser in pretty bad cam quality. mind = blown. hardon = achieved. that chanting is amahazing. | ||
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On December 17 2011 23:01 absalom86 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv46RdLpO-c the new teaser in pretty bad cam quality. mind = blown. hardon = achieved. that chanting is amahazing. + Show Spoiler + Dat football field :OOOOOO..... Friggin scary LOL | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On December 17 2011 22:10 CaptainCharisma wrote: Not looking forward to this at all. Nolan has taken Batman in completely the wrong direction - Batman Begins and TDK are sore reminders of this. Batman is for kids, first and foremost, adding in all this dark vibe shit and dialogue about duality and what makes someone a hero doesn't interest kids. The main reason Batman got so enormously popular in the first place was kids could and did enjoy the Adam West version and the films of 1989 through the 90s, and of course the comics, because they were aimed at children. Who buys Batman comics these days? Barely anybody, and those that do sure as hell aren't kids. You're right, and if I were a kid I would definitely not enjoy watching these movies. But I'm older now and I love what Nolan has done with them. | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On December 17 2011 23:01 absalom86 wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv46RdLpO-c the new teaser in pretty bad cam quality. mind = blown. hardon = achieved. that chanting is amahazing. I think we all know Hines Ward is not that fast. | ||
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