EPTThe case of the bullied kid Casey - Page 6
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Note: a number of sources are saying that Beast Master Casey has been suspended for 4 days and that the rat boy was suspended for 21. Look around for more sources please. | ||
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B.I.G.
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:25 Mecker wrote: Prime examples of how lowly-developed minds rationalize violence - I pity you far more than I pity that bully because he has the excuse of being a child. Please. What an utterly condescending statement. How would you handle a situation where: - you have been bullied and physically harassed for years - no other avenue to get help has provided any - you are cornered by a group of people mocking you - one of those people is punching you in the face - hard - there's nobody around to help you and walking away isn't an option Would I be a lowly-developed individual for thinking it was my best recourse to fight back and defend myself? If things went in my favour, would I be an even shittier/dumber person for thinking they had it coming? | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:19 LetoAtreides82 wrote: Punching and/or kicking is not just standing there and taking the hits. Yeah except you have to make a bully stop, not just give him a bruise. Guarantee that small douche will never pick on Casey again. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:30 B.I.G. wrote: to bad the bully didnt break his neck and got paralyzed for the rest of his live. if casey wouldve followed up that boss throw with some punches and kicks to the face i wouldve cheered for him even more. I have 0 tolerance for retards who get violent on people who didnt do anything wrong just to make themselves feel better. wtf, it's a fucking kid. that said, it did give me a twinge of pleasure to see him slam into the concrete. | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:30 acker wrote: I've been in the public school system less than three years ago, and I'm certain it doesn't work the way you described. It would have. That video is what we call in the Uk as "happy slapping" and often the police get involved with such videos. | ||
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote: Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Didn't you just see what you just wrote? The bride-to-be's friends did it for fun, as a joke. In this case the kid was being bullied, purposely attacked. There is a huge difference between an accident and an injury that results from personal defense. It would have been better if the kid had ended in a wheelchair. That way he will have a reminder for the rest of his life to be more humble. It would have taught him a sense of humility, I can guarantee you that the kid will keep on bulling others. | ||
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frequency
Australia1901 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:31 matjlav wrote: wtf, it's a fucking kid. that said, it did give me a twinge of pleasure to see him slam into the concrete. Watching him struggle to stand up like a newborn calf gave me a seriously messed up sense of pleasure. | ||
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Almin
United States583 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:25 Ocedic wrote: Those of you who say he 'took it too far' disgust me. Sorry, but that little cunt needs to be put in his place. If no one had stepped up to him, he would continue his bullying on other kids, making life miserable for others. And who knows, he'll probably become some douche bag wife beater when he grows up. But now that he's been humbled maybe he'll think twice about his actions. He's a kid, he probably will regret it/feel like a douchbag over this later in life. But if he had landed wrong on that bodyslam, and broke his neck, and landed in a wheelchair, would you still say he deserved it? | ||
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Dubpace
United States251 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:30 acker wrote: I've been in the public school system less than three years ago, and I'm certain it doesn't work the way you described. Well, I guess I was speaking out of generalization but I went to 4 different high schools and two different middle schools and it was all the case in all of those. I can assure you that if Casey had simply walked away and told a teacher he would definitely not be serving a suspension and the other kid would be. | ||
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Mecker
Sweden219 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:28 zalz wrote: How did that Casey kid take this too far? Could have killed him? And then? Done the world a big old favour? I am sorry but bullying utterly disgusts me and i can easily understand where this Casey kid is coming from. They aren't pokes, they aren't small things, stuff like that literally shatters your self worth as someone continually invades your personal space and if you do shit back people will blame you. You don't just lose self worth, people will look down on you aswell for letting it happen. Bullying isn't beating someone up, it's not calling someone names, it can be as small as poking someone all the time or as harmless as constantly shouting a persons name in an annoying voice as he walks by. If you ask "what did they do?" what can you tell people? They said my name in an annoying voice? Even though you yourself know that every time they do that you hate yourself more and more, to others it seems small and insignificant. I couldn't walk down the street without some group of annoying kids yelling my name, every day, all the time. I didn't even fucking know them and all i wanted was to walk down the fucking streets and be left alone, but i had to be humiliated infront of my friends every day so those kids could have a laugh. One day i broke one of the kid's nose and after that it was all over. The truth is that if someone tries to bully you, it's not going to stop until you beat and you beat them up good. What this kid did was nothing compared to what they must have done to him. That kid is going to feel pain for a day or two big fucking deal. The other kid is going to still feel like shit and he probably will for a long time after that bully has long forgotten his name. Physical pain is a joke compared to having no feeling of self-worth left. You know a broken leg is going to heal but you don't know if you are ever going to consider yourself worth something. Hope that kid is left with a permanent scar or something, altough then he would still be getting off better. Complete, utter bullcrap.(I'd love to see you actually try speaking about this with an actual psychologist) User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
What Casey did is nevertheless admirable. Law and moral are not always the same, after all. Also, he only got suspended? I think that is not a big punishment anyways. He can sit at home and think of what he did. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:24 Almin wrote: Rofl, not to be a jerk, but you're the one who needs to rewatch the video, he could've nearly killed him, the way he picked him up, and the way the kid landed, with different variables, easily could've resulted in the kid breaking his neck. There are plenty of stories out there, one in particular a few months ago, this bride-to-be was having a pool party, for fun her friends push her in the pool without her knowledge. Bam she breaks her neck, in a wheelchair afterwards. Those kinds of moves are dangerous, especially for kids. Sure, maybe he should have just punched the kid a few times in the head and broke his nose. Then people would be whining about concussions and brain damage. He's untrained, and the school clearly gave him no other outs - i'd much rather him smash some kid into the ground than come in with a pistol in a couple years. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:30 acker wrote: I've been in the public school system less than three years ago, and I'm certain it doesn't work the way you described. In my country, it doesn't work that way either. None gives a fuck about it. As long as the bullying stays "hidden" and you won't beat the kid in front of the whole school teachers, theres nothing the bullied can do. Yea talk to a school psychiatrist but that really doesn't help him at all, maybe the teachers will talk with the bullies but thats it. Bullying just keeps going and going. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:20 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: body slamming another person like that is extremely, extremely dangerous. my mom used to handle discipline cases in los angeles and there was a case in which someone did exactly that to another kid and paralyzed him for life. being a punk and throwing punches to gain the approval of your peers makes you a rotten person, but doesn't deserve that response. And Casey doesn't deserve years of mental anguish. Do you think this was the first time for Casey? He lets himself get punched in the face while docile, weak-ass school personnel turn a blind eye - this was a precedent, and he could've look forward to getting punched in face a whole lot more in the future. The ADULTS didn't solve the problem here - Casey had to, or simply become a victim. Should he not put his own physical and mental well-being ahead of the piss-ant who thinks he can punch people, in public, without provocation? I don't want to see any kid get their neck broken from being body-slammed, but if that's what Casey needed to do for himself, being out-numbered and physically abused, then so be it. Casey, unfortunate as it is, made the right choice. If you disagree, then enjoy yourself when someone decides to bring some friends along and spend some time punching you in the face. | ||
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samboi
England69 Posts
What scares me the most in threads similar to this one is the replies. A large majority here are adults (or so I presume) yet many of you respond with such nonsense as "I woulda done XXX <-- (random act that would justifiably put them in jail)" ^^ Bullying in itself are acts of random unprovoked violence that people shud be put into jail for, but end up makin the other person too afraid to come foward, If that was ur child and you had a young boy who was being bullied aswell as getting into trouble for sticking up for himself...you would want to fight his battles for him, just to end it, but you cant because they are children doing it...then imagine you saw that video, knowing that ur son took that stand and beat the bullys, although you cannot be seen by ur child to encourage the violence, i personally would be proud. | ||
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:28 CommanderFluffy wrote: While i agree with self defense, i dont think death over a elementary school squabble is by any means acceptable. yeah some people are getting way too irrational now haha | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:31 matjlav wrote: wtf, it's a fucking kid. that said, it did give me a twinge of pleasure to see him slam into the concrete. Being a kid doesn't somehow alleviate guilt of doing terrible things. He is clearly old enough to realize his actions cause suffering. In fact, that's WHY he does it. If anything, that sadistic behavior needs to be stamped out early, or he's just gutter trash so who cares if he's paralyzed. You think violent criminals were nice, quiet passive kids or something? But if he had landed wrong on that bodyslam, and broke his neck, and landed in a wheelchair, would you still say he deserved it? Consequences have actions. It's not so much he 'deserves it' as much as the injuries inflicted upon him, whether minor or paralyzation, were the consequence of his OWN actions. Honestly the only remorse I'd feel about the little kid being paralyzed/killed would be the repercussions Casey would face for otherwise doing the world a favor. I don't know what else to say here, if I punched someone much stronger/bigger than me then he killed me in self defense, you wouldn't think it was my fault? | ||
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Mecker
Sweden219 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:31 Mjolnir wrote: Please. What an utterly condescending statement. How would you handle a situation where: - you have been bullied and physically harassed for years - no other avenue to get help has provided any - you are cornered by a group of people mocking you - one of those people is punching you in the face - hard - there's nobody around to help you and walking away isn't an option Would I be a lowly-developed individual for thinking it was my best recourse to fight back and defend myself? If things went in my favour, would I be an even shittier/dumber person for thinking they had it coming? I thank you good sir for completely misinterpreting my post and wasting both our time. My comment wasn't about Casey's reaction, it was about the ludicrous comments being written down as I write this. A supposedly mature adult should be able to realize that additional violence to the extent of murder in a situation like this is just ridiculous. It's their primitive minds doing the thinking - needless to say that isn't rational. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
but I heard the instigator in the conflict didn't get a suspension. is that true? if so, then it's total bullshit and the one who made that decision should get fired | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32160 Posts
On March 15 2011 03:08 Kennigit wrote: This brought a tear to my eye - i had very similar experience happen to me in elementary school. I started grade 1 in scotland (you start when you are 4 1/2 ish) so i was always a year younger when i moved back to Canada and US. In my math class in grade 7 this kid would pick on me every day sitting behind me, slapping my head etc. One day he slapped my ears with both his hands and in rage/instinct i grabbed my metal ruler, turned around and stabbed it through his hand lol. Suspended for a week. Never bullied again. GG. So no, i don't think Casey went too far. Too far would have been jumping on him and pounding his short little head into the ground. Did you hear everyone gasp in awe as that kid went down lol? I doubt people will fuck with him much when he gets back to school;. edit: to add to this, i go to college with the kid now and one night he was drunk and broke down into tears apologizing for being a dick when he was younger. Kids. fuck yes, agree 100% This video was AWESOME, doubly so because it was a short bully getting beat up. God, loud little people annoy me so | ||
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