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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:04:32
March 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#1381
On March 12 2011 16:59 Maggeus wrote:
Seems it's not confirmed if it's smoke or steam.

Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


Obviously you don't even know how a power-plant function.


Analyst says it's likely a controlled explosion to improve venting, since it's white smoke.

Still waiting on more information, but it sort of makes you wonder what the situation is that made them resort to blowing stuff up...
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
March 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#1382
Dude, I'm on the California coast, and this nuclear meltdown shit is scary as hell. I can't even imagine what it must be like right now for someone living in Japan who has to worry about that in addition to dealing with the aftermath of the tsunami and earthquake.

Some useful links I've been using that I think have all been posted at some point in this thread, but I'm just posting them now in case someone missed some:

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698?OCID=twwnabbc
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8248054/view.html
http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=3
http://english.kyodonews.jp/
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
March 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#1383
There was some footage on the news here tonight.

Japanese search and rescue teams have been working tirelessly in Christchurch over the past few weeks and have made a big difference. The leader, with a tear in his eye explained that they'd be heading home today and that some of the team had already lost family members. They'll be accompanied by New Zealand teams they've been working alongside since the quake.

I just can't imagine what it must be like for those men, having been tirelessly searching amongst crushed buildings for weeks: retrieving bodies and clearing debris... to now head home and face a even greater challenge on their home.

I'd like to raise a glass to them, and to the other search and rescue teams from around the world that have been helping out in Christchurch and are now heading to Japan.

They're heroes.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#1384
AJE: Several workers injured at plant due to blast.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:07:42
March 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#1385
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-11/anime/manga/game-industry-members-check-in-after-quake

A little not so on/off topic .. Just got the link from mangastream.com. They said you can check here if your favorite artist survived the quake. Well in our case, the authors of the mangas we love to read or the animes we love to watch or the devs of the games we love to play.

It may take some time to load .. mine has been loading for 5 minutes and still nothing is being displayed.
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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
March 12 2011 08:08 GMT
#1386
Found the new's article link about the Japanese USAR team for anybody who is interested:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Japanese-USAR-team-leaves-Chch-for-own-disaster/tabid/417/articleID/202075/Default.aspx
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
NoUShutUp
Profile Joined January 2008
United States172 Posts
March 12 2011 08:13 GMT
#1387
0803: Japan's NHK TV also has that report of an explosion, which it says was "near" the Fukushima-Daiichi plant. The Tokyo Electric Power Company - which runs the plant - says some workers were injured, NHK reports.

0806: NHK TV says the number of dead across Japan has reached 1,000.

0810: Japanese media reports say that radioactivity has risen 20-fold outside the Fukushima-Daiichi plant.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 12 2011 08:13 GMT
#1388
Outer structure of building that houses reactor at Fukushima plant appears to have blown off - NHK

from Reuters
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:16:11
March 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#1389
On March 12 2011 17:01 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


bullshit. People are just afraid of the word nuclear. Any other power plant would have trouble following the 5th largest earthquake since 1900. And all that's happening here is a minor leak. I would hazard to say Nuclear power plants have the best record of all fuel-using power plants worldwide.

How extraordinarily narrow minded

haha saying me being narrow minded while talking about nuclear energy lol.
Yeah nuclear energy is such long term thought out process since theres still no solution what to do with the waste.
My point is Japan build 55 nuclear plant knowing of the danger of quakes by the way just google Kurihara Nuclear Power Plant it got damaged in 2008 by a ~7 earth quake too. leaking radioactive material
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elscuba
Profile Joined July 2008
Japan34 Posts
March 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#1390
It seems something terrible happens at Fukushima 1.
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 12 2011 08:20 GMT
#1391
in chernobyl the same happened, outer walls broke from pressure :S fuck
brrrtmn
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation154 Posts
March 12 2011 08:21 GMT
#1392
ohh shit

User was temp banned for this post.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 12 2011 08:23 GMT
#1393
On March 12 2011 17:20 fanta[Rn] wrote:
in chernobyl the same happened, outer walls broke from pressure :S fuck



Naoto Sekimura, a professor at the University of Tokyo, says "No Chernobyl is possible at a light water reactor. Loss of coolant means a temperature rise, but it also will stop the reaction”

-Reuters


I'm no expert on this field so I'll take the word of people far more knowledgeable than me for now. God forbid that something like Chernobyl happens again...
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
March 12 2011 08:24 GMT
#1394
On March 12 2011 17:14 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 17:01 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


bullshit. People are just afraid of the word nuclear. Any other power plant would have trouble following the 5th largest earthquake since 1900. And all that's happening here is a minor leak. I would hazard to say Nuclear power plants have the best record of all fuel-using power plants worldwide.

How extraordinarily narrow minded

haha saying me being narrow minded while talking about nuclear energy lol.
Yeah nuclear energy is such long term thought out process since theres still no solution what to do with the waste.
My point is Japan build 55 nuclear plant knowing of the danger of quakes by the way just google Kurihara Nuclear Power Plant it got damaged in 2008 by a ~7 earth quake too. leaking radioactive material


Well too be honost. I wouldn't have build nuclear plants in a earthquake/sunami zone. I still trust nuclear fission power. Just don't build it in dangerous places. Europe has basicly no earthquackes ever. Seems like a better place to put them.

Does anybody know how old this plant was ?. The newest generation nuclear plants are desisgned even better as these. They might have been able to keep operating during the quacke. And at least not even have a chance of melting down.
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:29:29
March 12 2011 08:25 GMT
#1395
On March 12 2011 17:20 fanta[Rn] wrote:
in chernobyl the same happened, outer walls broke from pressure :S fuck


Didn't they say they released the pressure like 45 minutes ago ?
Seems like we're getting nowhere if we don't have real evidence...

And Chernobyl was completely different than what's happening right now...

The plant is like 40 years old btw. Doesn't mean it's old or not anyway, it depends on the Fluence inside the core. And yes, the 3rd generation reactors are designed for a meltdown scenario. If there's one, there won't be any leak, since they're a pool of concrete right below the reactor.
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
March 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#1396
On March 12 2011 17:14 smileyyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 17:01 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


bullshit. People are just afraid of the word nuclear. Any other power plant would have trouble following the 5th largest earthquake since 1900. And all that's happening here is a minor leak. I would hazard to say Nuclear power plants have the best record of all fuel-using power plants worldwide.

How extraordinarily narrow minded

haha saying me being narrow minded while talking about nuclear energy lol.
Yeah nuclear energy is such long term thought out process since theres still no solution what to do with the waste.
My point is Japan build 55 nuclear plant knowing of the danger of quakes by the way just google Kurihara Nuclear Power Plant it got damaged in 2008 by a ~7 earth quake too. leaking radioactive material


It's risks vs rewards.

Japan has a high population density. About one half the population of US condensed into the size of California. To meet the demands of energy, they have to rely on nuclear power, because it's more cleaner than fossil fuel by output and waste. With so much traffic and people, I do not think they want all that horrible smog in their tight packed cities.
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Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
March 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#1397
Apparently they still don't know what the building was where the explosion took place, it could have been reactor #1 or a different building.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
March 12 2011 08:29 GMT
#1398
Murphy's law at work again sadly.. *sigh

Hope they get those plants under control ASAP
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:32:06
March 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#1399
NHK is telling people to stay inside and close windows and turn off air conditioning/vents, wear masks or wet cloths, wear clothes that don't expose much skin, not to eat food left outside, and wash hands and face.

1015uSv/hr radiation being released, which is about the amount of radiation that people are exposed to in a year.

Edit: Not official gov't word, but NHK is saying to stay inside even if you're more than 10km away.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#1400
On March 12 2011 17:27 Pleiades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 17:14 smileyyy wrote:
On March 12 2011 17:01 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:58 smileyyy wrote:
hmm once again its proven nuclear energy is not safe at all. lets hope there wont be too much damage.


bullshit. People are just afraid of the word nuclear. Any other power plant would have trouble following the 5th largest earthquake since 1900. And all that's happening here is a minor leak. I would hazard to say Nuclear power plants have the best record of all fuel-using power plants worldwide.

How extraordinarily narrow minded

haha saying me being narrow minded while talking about nuclear energy lol.
Yeah nuclear energy is such long term thought out process since theres still no solution what to do with the waste.
My point is Japan build 55 nuclear plant knowing of the danger of quakes by the way just google Kurihara Nuclear Power Plant it got damaged in 2008 by a ~7 earth quake too. leaking radioactive material


It's risks vs rewards.

Japan has a high population density. About one half the population of US condensed into the size of California. To meet the demands of energy, they have to rely on nuclear power, because it's more cleaner than fossil fuel by output and waste. With so much traffic and people, I do not think they want all that horrible smog in their tight packed cities.




Exactly my thoughts, I'm sure nuclear energy vs. fossil fuels would make for a perfect debate topic, but this thread is neither the correct place nor time to have this debate.

Meanwhile Tepco have announced that the explosion heard may have been the hydrogen used to cool the plant, still waiting for confirmation.
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