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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.
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On March 15 2011 22:24 dump wrote:
On second thought, I think I'd like to see the power plants topic stay here.
It's arguably an important part of the crisis, and of the economy of a highly commerce-dependent country.
I don't think it should be treated as equal to the actual disaster. Since the nuclear problems appeared in the news, it dominated them completely. Both in the media and in this thread.
I can understand that people are concerned about the nuclear power plants, myself included. Most of my posts in this thread were about them after all. But there are a lot of important things to talk about and the power plants should not drown out the real issues.
The last I've heard is that the food stocks in the Tokyo area are gone, because of mass hoarding and panic buying. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless people. I don't have any clear information about the medical situation and the risk of disease in the tsunami affected areas. There are still a lot of people missing, communication problems all across the northern regions and long-lasting rolling blackouts.
The economic situation is getting worse, the Nikkei is in free fall and the yen exchange rates are getting out of hand. Most likely there need to be a strong governmental intervention soon.
That is just a small sample of the huge problems currently in Japan, and I would say that most of them are more severe than our discussion and speculation about the power plant.
But if we need another thread is something that the mods should decide, especially Manifesto.
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On March 15 2011 22:33 dump wrote:
There's an aftershock going on right now... NHK's Tokyo studio is shaking, the anchor's a little panicked.
Dammit, 6+ in Shizuoka.
After everything that has happened and still more..
I seriously wouldn't know what to do. I know Japan is prepared and all but personally for me.. I'd be so scared. I really hope it'll end already for them...
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On March 15 2011 22:33 dump wrote:
There's an aftershock going on right now... NHK's Tokyo studio is shaking, the anchor's a little panicked.
Dammit, 6+ in Shizuoka.
6+ in tokyo aswell it seems??
"Earthquake shakes buildings in Tokyo, say witnesses Reuters "
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On March 15 2011 22:37 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 22:33 dump wrote:
There's an aftershock going on right now... NHK's Tokyo studio is shaking, the anchor's a little panicked.
Dammit, 6+ in Shizuoka. 6+ in tokyo aswell it seems?? "Earthquake shakes buildings in Tokyo, say witnesses Reuters "
3+ in Tokyo, the one just happened over 3 mins ago.
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NHK says there's no reports of damage or any reason to believe there would be. Thank god.
On March 15 2011 22:35 jjun212 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 22:33 dump wrote:
There's an aftershock going on right now... NHK's Tokyo studio is shaking, the anchor's a little panicked.
Dammit, 6+ in Shizuoka. After everything that has happened and still more.. I seriously wouldn't know what to do. I know Japan is prepared and all but personally for me.. I'd be so scared. I really hope it'll end already for them...
There's been like 5 to 15 M10+ earthquakes every hour for the past few days now, and a 6 every couple hours or so. It's pretty normal after such huge earthquakes, and in fact generally thought to be better than having one huge constipated aftershock -- so I'm sort of relieved that they're still happening. There was a silence right before the 9.0 hit.
There's still a 50% chance of an M7+ in the next 3 days though. Looks like they made it through the first 3 70% days without any of that. Not all is bad, I guess.
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On March 15 2011 22:40 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2011 22:37 Grettin wrote:On March 15 2011 22:33 dump wrote:
There's an aftershock going on right now... NHK's Tokyo studio is shaking, the anchor's a little panicked.
Dammit, 6+ in Shizuoka. 6+ in tokyo aswell it seems?? "Earthquake shakes buildings in Tokyo, say witnesses Reuters " 3+ in Tokyo, the one just happened over 3 mins ago.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1KzCs.png)
Source: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/3/20110315223521453-152231.html
(Note that this is not a magnitude scale but the JMA scale.)
No tsunami warnings were issued as a result of that aftershock.
Update:
Location: 35.3N 138.7E
Depth: 10km
Magnitude: 6.0
Update again, USGS data:
Magnitude 6.1
Location 35.322°N, 138.552°E
Depth 1 km (~0.6 mile)
Source: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc00023fx.php
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Meh this sucks, Fujinomiya was the center of it and just where it happened is where I lived for almost a year in Japan and where I have my home stay family and all. Hope they are fine, I suppose 6 isn't too bad but still worrysome, stuff can fall down and there might be some destruction too.
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On March 15 2011 22:46 Yttrasil wrote:
Meh this sucks, Fujinomiya was the center of it and just where it happened is where I lived for almost a year in Japan and where I have my home stay family and all. Hope they are fine, I suppose 6 isn't too bad but still worrysome, stuff can fall down and there might be some destruction too.
NHK says that the only reports of damage so far have been cups falling off of cupboards. I'm sure they're fine.
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On March 15 2011 22:24 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Man the information policy of these energy companies is despicable. The situation is so confusing you don't know who to trust. TEPCO have been notorious liers for ages and in germany the situation is the same. Last time there was an incitent in the nuclear power plant next to me it took the company over a day to alert officials and although officially nothing serious happened the area sorrounding the plant has the highest rate of leukemia in the whole world(yes higher then nagasaki, belarus, ukraine,etc)...you don't know who to trust..
which power plant are you talking about?
i'm really wondering if there has ever been a real chance to get these reactors back under control.
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An update on the German sources quoted above regarding increasing radiation levels and workers being pulled out at Fukushima Daiichi - I cannot find the source they're quoting on Kyodo's English or Japanese pages, so I can't confirm whether the reports in the two German sources are accurate. I would guess not, since the workers being pulled out isn't mentioned in the summarized coverage of the situation in either language. It's possible I missed it, though - they're producing an awful lot of articles in a hurry over there.
EDIT: Via NYTimes - Reporter Martyn Williams is reporting that the radiation levels in the Fukushima Daiichi control rooms are too high for workers to remain in the rooms, but that they are rotating workers though rather than abandoning the control rooms: http://twitter.com/martyn_williams/status/47641563756625920
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Any report from the Nuclear Plants after this earthquake?
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On March 15 2011 23:02 Arpe wrote:
Any report from the Nuclear Plants after this earthquake?
NHK says they shouldn't affect them, but... well... optimism doesn't seem to be very meaningful right now 
Nothing so far though, no.
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Russian Federation1894 Posts
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13:35
DJ: Earthquake Magnitude 6.2 In Shizuoka - NHK
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13:40
DJ: No Risk Of Tsunami From Latest Earthquake - Kyodo
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13:42
DJ: Power Stations In Shizuoka Still In Operation: TEPCO - Kyodo
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DJ: Power Stations In Shizuoka Still In Operation: TEPCO - Kyodo
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DJ: No Damage At Shizuoka Airport - Kyodo
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14:02
DJ: Police Report Power Failure In Fujinomiya City, Shizuoka Following Quake - Kyodo
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14:03
DJ: USGS: 6.1-Magnitude Earthquake Centered 72 Miles From Tokyo
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14:03
DJ: USGS: 6.1-Magnitude Earthquake At Depth Of 0.6-Mile
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M6 earthquake isn't even that big a deal for japan, which is a pretty balling statement in and of itself. My friend said the most worrying thing for her was that she was woken up by the earthquake. CNN reports the same, people felt the tremor but nothing big happened.
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On March 15 2011 20:46 kinray wrote:I am not sure if this link have been posted before: http://mitnse.com/Quite easy to understand explanation about what happened in the nuclear plant and what damage can be done by it. As far as i understand the whole thing is maintained by people that understand what are they talking about.
I think there is some important information regarding this fast spreading site (has been linked to me two times already this morning) that's worthwile sharing with all people interested in the ongoing events at the nuclear plants.
Take all the information given by "mitnse" with a grain of salt, it's possible that it's nothing but an eloquent astroturfing project by proponents of nuclear power.
Source: http://geniusnow.com/2011/03/15/the-strange-case-of-josef-oehmen/
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China is sending busses to evacuate their people it seems.
"1422: China is organising a mass evacuation of its citizens from north-east Japan, the Associated Press reports. The Chinese embassy said it was sending buses to collect its nationals from Miyagi, Fukushima, Ibaraki and Iwate prefectures, "due to the seriousness of and uncertainty surrounding the accident at the Fukushima nuclear plant at present"."
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My brother used to live in Ishinomaki while teaching English with the JET Program. We heard reports that a train he used to take everyday went missing. We haven't heard back from his friends who live in Ishinomaki. We also fear that his old neighborhood was destroyed.
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So, can anyone get me up to date here:
How screwed is Japan right now? How much economical damage has been done? (and compared to something else)
Will there be any radiaton leak or not? What will happen if?
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On March 15 2011 23:53 KangaRuthless wrote:
My brother used to live in Ishinomaki while teaching English with the JET Program. We heard reports that a train he used to take everyday went missing. We haven't heard back from his friends who live in Ishinomaki. We also fear that his old neighborhood was destroyed.
That's bad.
Have you tried using the Google Person Finder at http://japan.person-finder.appspot.com/?lang=en already?
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