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On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life
Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you.
I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis.
Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments.
edit: sorry read the 2posts as one
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On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life
Prove it before you assume it.
Just because someone dies 1/6th early from smoking weed AND cigarettes [people who smoke weed stereotypically also smoke cigarettes, though not in all cases] doesn't mean smoking weed necessarily contributed to the cause.
Studies haven't confirmed that myth, along with many other theories as to the effects of THC on the body. Just because it "may cause hindrances in learning ability" or "may shorten life expectancy" doesn't mean it does.
That's like me saying driving a car MAY result in death.
Or ingesting undercooked meat MAY cause food poisoning.
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On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one
Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/
Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency.
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On February 25 2011 04:35 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/ Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency.
My only reaction to that is "what the fuck?"
THC is a chemical that is widely known for the lack of negative effects it has on the human body.
While combusting ANY plant matter is always going to be bad for you (because 500 degree smoke in your lungs is never healthy) of course there is SOME degree of lung damage. However nicotine is much more dangerous because of its suppression of cilia in the lungs, which prevent them from removing the natural buildup of tar, dust, and other things that enter your lungs, as well as that contributed by cigarettes. The reason people don't get emphysema and die after thirty years of smoking weed is because the lung damage caused by it is so minor: their lungs aren't clogged with literally pounds of disgusting biological buildup and there is no polonium-210 irradiating them every second of every day.
THC has been shown to be hugely beneficial in many areas of medicine. Be it pain relief, tumour suppression, brain cell regrowth, or interocular pressure reduction. It has also been shown many, many, MANY! (I can't stress many enough times) to have ZERO negative effect on brain function. If you don't believe me, feel free to peruse this list of thousands of studies that all prove my points:
http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.html
The psychological effects of the use of psychoactive drugs are much more subjective than the medical ones. Because psychological health can so widely vary between individuals, one person who develops amotivational disorder, depression, or even schizophrenia after using marijuana can not have been said to have developed it BECAUSE of their marijuana use. It's long been known that those predisposed to mental illnesses have them emerge during times of heavy stress, as while as when high. This is because people in an expanded state of mind will often make realizations that they had blocked through denial, or come to understand themselves in a way that isn't considered "normal" by society.
Sorry for the rant and kind of OT but the amount of misinformation in that post was staggering.
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On February 25 2011 04:45 42x10 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 04:35 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/ Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency. My only reaction to that is "what the fuck?" THC is a chemical that is widely known for the lack of negative effects it has on the human body. While combusting ANY plant matter is always going to be bad for you (because 500 degree smoke in your lungs is never healthy) of course there is SOME degree of lung damage. However nicotine is much more dangerous because of its suppression of cilia in the lungs, which prevent them from removing the natural buildup of tar, dust, and other things that enter your lungs, as well as that contributed by cigarettes. The reason people don't get emphysema and die after thirty years of smoking weed is because the lung damage caused by it is so minor: their lungs aren't clogged with literally pounds of disgusting biological buildup and there is no polonium-210 irradiating them every second of every day. THC has been shown to be hugely beneficial in many areas of medicine. Be it pain relief, tumour suppression, brain cell regrowth, or interocular pressure reduction. It has also been shown many, many, MANY! (I can't stress many enough times) to have ZERO negative effect on brain function. If you don't believe me, feel free to peruse this list of thousands of studies that all prove my points: http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.htmlThe psychological effects of the use of psychoactive drugs are much more subjective than the medical ones. Because psychological health can so widely vary between individuals, one person who develops amotivational disorder, depression, or even schizophrenia after using marijuana can not have been said to have developed it BECAUSE of their marijuana use. It's long been known that those predisposed to mental illnesses have them emerge during times of heavy stress, as while as when high. This is because people in an expanded state of mind will often make realizations that they had blocked through denial, or come to understand themselves in a way that isn't considered "normal" by society. Sorry for the rant and kind of OT but the amount of misinformation in that post was staggering.
Or, do your own study and see with your own two eyes. Take a look at any person that smoked every day for the last 10+ years. I've known my fair share of people that smoked daily for a very long time, and you will never be able to convince me that weed has zero negative effect on brain function.
Also, it's spelled "pursue" not "persue"
EDIT:
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htm
http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
Please don't do selective research. It makes you look like a complete idiot.
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On February 25 2011 04:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 04:45 42x10 wrote:On February 25 2011 04:35 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/ Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency. My only reaction to that is "what the fuck?" THC is a chemical that is widely known for the lack of negative effects it has on the human body. While combusting ANY plant matter is always going to be bad for you (because 500 degree smoke in your lungs is never healthy) of course there is SOME degree of lung damage. However nicotine is much more dangerous because of its suppression of cilia in the lungs, which prevent them from removing the natural buildup of tar, dust, and other things that enter your lungs, as well as that contributed by cigarettes. The reason people don't get emphysema and die after thirty years of smoking weed is because the lung damage caused by it is so minor: their lungs aren't clogged with literally pounds of disgusting biological buildup and there is no polonium-210 irradiating them every second of every day. THC has been shown to be hugely beneficial in many areas of medicine. Be it pain relief, tumour suppression, brain cell regrowth, or interocular pressure reduction. It has also been shown many, many, MANY! (I can't stress many enough times) to have ZERO negative effect on brain function. If you don't believe me, feel free to peruse this list of thousands of studies that all prove my points: http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.htmlThe psychological effects of the use of psychoactive drugs are much more subjective than the medical ones. Because psychological health can so widely vary between individuals, one person who develops amotivational disorder, depression, or even schizophrenia after using marijuana can not have been said to have developed it BECAUSE of their marijuana use. It's long been known that those predisposed to mental illnesses have them emerge during times of heavy stress, as while as when high. This is because people in an expanded state of mind will often make realizations that they had blocked through denial, or come to understand themselves in a way that isn't considered "normal" by society. Sorry for the rant and kind of OT but the amount of misinformation in that post was staggering. Or, do your own study and see with your own two eyes. Take a look at any person that smoked every day for the last 10+ years. I've known my fair share of people that smoked daily for a very long time, and you will never be able to convince me that weed has zero negative effect on brain function. Also, it's spelled "pursue" not "persue" EDIT: http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htmhttp://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.htmlPlease don't do selective research. It makes you look like a complete idiot.
Uh the word is "peruse" as in:
1.
to read through with thoroughness or care: to peruse a report.
If you had done that on the link i provided, you would have noticed it had thousands of sources from many different countries, instead of just information provided by the american government which you posted. By the way: That's the same government that has spent 70 years demonizing marijuana to protect paper and other industries that could easily be defeated by hemp.
Also i have smoked marijuana for about the last 13 years nearly daily and i've never been in better shape, nor have I felt better. I'm pretty sure you're a troll because you accused me of selective research and then ignored "Granny Storm Crows List" which is pretty much the holy grail of counter US marijuana propaganda.
You should watch this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#
and then tell me whether or not marijuana is actually harmful.
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On February 25 2011 04:59 42x10 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 04:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 04:45 42x10 wrote:On February 25 2011 04:35 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/ Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency. My only reaction to that is "what the fuck?" THC is a chemical that is widely known for the lack of negative effects it has on the human body. While combusting ANY plant matter is always going to be bad for you (because 500 degree smoke in your lungs is never healthy) of course there is SOME degree of lung damage. However nicotine is much more dangerous because of its suppression of cilia in the lungs, which prevent them from removing the natural buildup of tar, dust, and other things that enter your lungs, as well as that contributed by cigarettes. The reason people don't get emphysema and die after thirty years of smoking weed is because the lung damage caused by it is so minor: their lungs aren't clogged with literally pounds of disgusting biological buildup and there is no polonium-210 irradiating them every second of every day. THC has been shown to be hugely beneficial in many areas of medicine. Be it pain relief, tumour suppression, brain cell regrowth, or interocular pressure reduction. It has also been shown many, many, MANY! (I can't stress many enough times) to have ZERO negative effect on brain function. If you don't believe me, feel free to peruse this list of thousands of studies that all prove my points: http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.htmlThe psychological effects of the use of psychoactive drugs are much more subjective than the medical ones. Because psychological health can so widely vary between individuals, one person who develops amotivational disorder, depression, or even schizophrenia after using marijuana can not have been said to have developed it BECAUSE of their marijuana use. It's long been known that those predisposed to mental illnesses have them emerge during times of heavy stress, as while as when high. This is because people in an expanded state of mind will often make realizations that they had blocked through denial, or come to understand themselves in a way that isn't considered "normal" by society. Sorry for the rant and kind of OT but the amount of misinformation in that post was staggering. Or, do your own study and see with your own two eyes. Take a look at any person that smoked every day for the last 10+ years. I've known my fair share of people that smoked daily for a very long time, and you will never be able to convince me that weed has zero negative effect on brain function. Also, it's spelled "pursue" not "persue" EDIT: http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htmhttp://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.htmlPlease don't do selective research. It makes you look like a complete idiot. Uh the word is "peruse" as in: 1. to read through with thoroughness or care: to peruse a report. If you had done that on the link i provided, you would have noticed it had thousands of sources from many different countries, instead of just information provided by the american government which you posted. By the way: That's the same government that has spent 70 years demonizing marijuana to protect paper and other industries that could easily be defeated by hemp. Also i have smoked marijuana for about the last 13 years nearly daily and i've never been in better shape, nor have I felt better. I'm pretty sure you're a troll because you accused me of selective research and then ignored "Granny Storm Crows List" which is pretty much the holy grail of counter US marijuana propaganda. You should watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#and then tell me whether or not marijuana is actually harmful.
I'm not checking out any of your sources until you check out my sources. The fact that you neglected my sources simply shows me that you're biased.
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On February 25 2011 03:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Prove it before you assume it. Just because someone dies 1/6th early from smoking weed AND cigarettes [people who smoke weed stereotypically also smoke cigarettes, though not in all cases] doesn't mean smoking weed necessarily contributed to the cause. Studies haven't confirmed that myth, along with many other theories as to the effects of THC on the body. Just because it "may cause hindrances in learning ability" or "may shorten life expectancy" doesn't mean it does. That's like me saying driving a car MAY result in death. Or ingesting undercooked meat MAY cause food poisoning.
Um, the study says people who smoke cigarettes die 14 years earlier (corrected for other factors too, I think.) It's not about smoking weed. Neither is it about people who smoke weed and tobaco. It's about normal cigarettes.
That's exactly my point, that "regular" smoking is so dangerous that it's preposterous to say marijuana is worse.
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I am very, very pro cannabis but you have to be fucking kidding if you believe it's completely harmless. Maybe if it's used in edibles it is harmless, I don't know. That being said, it's clearly safer for you than both alcohol and tobacco/nicotine.
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On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:
Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you one sixth of your fucking life Again with the generalizations and COMPLETELY unfounded assumptions... Weed smoke is still smoke... Have you even read my post? This is starting to severely piss me off now... How about you do some research before displaying your lack of knowledge so openly, almost proud, even?
Yes, I have. I responded to one specific point. I.e that "weed-smoke is as harmful or more than tobaco".
From a health perspective that's just not true. Tobaco is more harmful, the evidence is fairly conclusive. My first post contains sources. It does not contain unfounded assumptions or unwarranted generalizations.
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I'm pretty sure no one smokes weed then plays successfully at an SC2 tourny, so can we not have the "weed argument" here please?
Some information on mind enhancing drugs is detailed here in this Discover Magazine Article.
Edit: Added an adjective.
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On February 25 2011 05:06 RoosterSamurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 04:59 42x10 wrote:On February 25 2011 04:52 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 04:45 42x10 wrote:On February 25 2011 04:35 RoosterSamurai wrote:On February 25 2011 02:55 paksam wrote:On February 20 2011 12:04 hypercube wrote:On February 20 2011 08:34 mcbrite wrote:
Most of your post is actually bullshit... Like that smoking weed is better than cigarettes... There is many studies that weed-smoke is either AS harmful or even MORE harmful than tobacco... And that's without the detrimental effects of weed added to it... I smoked weed like a fiend for over 10 years, so I'm not just talking out of my ass, either... Do you realize how dangerous cigarette smoking is? It's basically a form of poison that is only tolerated because it's so widespread and very hard to stop. The wikipedia article quotes a number from a CDC publication for the expected number of life years lost for smokers. Take a guess before you look at the spoiler. + Show Spoiler +Do I think smoking weed is harmless? Probably not. But it sure as hell doesn't cost you + Show Spoiler +one sixth of your fucking life Yes smoking weed is bad for you but you are seem to be generalizing that weed is harmful to you when there has not been 1 death reported directly due to consuming weed, while tobacco has been proven that it is terrible and can/will kill you. I'm just asking you to have an open mind instead of attacking people who have a love for cannabis. Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments. edit: sorry read the 2posts as one Actually, weed is very harmful to your mental health long term =/ Recent studies also show that THC causes sexual inefficiency. My only reaction to that is "what the fuck?" THC is a chemical that is widely known for the lack of negative effects it has on the human body. While combusting ANY plant matter is always going to be bad for you (because 500 degree smoke in your lungs is never healthy) of course there is SOME degree of lung damage. However nicotine is much more dangerous because of its suppression of cilia in the lungs, which prevent them from removing the natural buildup of tar, dust, and other things that enter your lungs, as well as that contributed by cigarettes. The reason people don't get emphysema and die after thirty years of smoking weed is because the lung damage caused by it is so minor: their lungs aren't clogged with literally pounds of disgusting biological buildup and there is no polonium-210 irradiating them every second of every day. THC has been shown to be hugely beneficial in many areas of medicine. Be it pain relief, tumour suppression, brain cell regrowth, or interocular pressure reduction. It has also been shown many, many, MANY! (I can't stress many enough times) to have ZERO negative effect on brain function. If you don't believe me, feel free to peruse this list of thousands of studies that all prove my points: http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/161539-granny-storm-crows-list.htmlThe psychological effects of the use of psychoactive drugs are much more subjective than the medical ones. Because psychological health can so widely vary between individuals, one person who develops amotivational disorder, depression, or even schizophrenia after using marijuana can not have been said to have developed it BECAUSE of their marijuana use. It's long been known that those predisposed to mental illnesses have them emerge during times of heavy stress, as while as when high. This is because people in an expanded state of mind will often make realizations that they had blocked through denial, or come to understand themselves in a way that isn't considered "normal" by society. Sorry for the rant and kind of OT but the amount of misinformation in that post was staggering. Or, do your own study and see with your own two eyes. Take a look at any person that smoked every day for the last 10+ years. I've known my fair share of people that smoked daily for a very long time, and you will never be able to convince me that weed has zero negative effect on brain function. Also, it's spelled "pursue" not "persue" EDIT: http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htmhttp://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.htmlPlease don't do selective research. It makes you look like a complete idiot. Uh the word is "peruse" as in: 1. to read through with thoroughness or care: to peruse a report. If you had done that on the link i provided, you would have noticed it had thousands of sources from many different countries, instead of just information provided by the american government which you posted. By the way: That's the same government that has spent 70 years demonizing marijuana to protect paper and other industries that could easily be defeated by hemp. Also i have smoked marijuana for about the last 13 years nearly daily and i've never been in better shape, nor have I felt better. I'm pretty sure you're a troll because you accused me of selective research and then ignored "Granny Storm Crows List" which is pretty much the holy grail of counter US marijuana propaganda. You should watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#and then tell me whether or not marijuana is actually harmful. I'm not checking out any of your sources until you check out my sources. The fact that you neglected my sources simply shows me that you're biased.
I didn't neglect them at all. In fact i even said "instead of just information provided by the american government which you posted". So i'll take them one by one:
1. "What Are the Long-Term Effects of Marijuana? From National Institute on Drug Abuse"
This a study with a fairly small sample size (450 people) that shows that while they smoked only marijuana, they had "a higher incidence" of respiratory problems. Keep in mind these are californians who could very well all live in LA, a place with terrible air quality which is also very powerfully indicated in respiratory problems. They don't even give any statistics, rather just saying there was an "increased incidence" of airway problems. There's not even a single number in that article.
2. NIDA InfoFacts: Marijuana
Literally everything on this list is DIRECTLY argued against by the documentary i linked you to, "The Union." These are old facts that are long held to be incorrect. Once again, give the documentary a chance. Almost in order in fact it addresses all of the claims in the NIDA marijuana facts.
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Ok before you go any further in my orginal post I clearly state "Your previous experiences (10years) lead me to believe that you may have been an abuser of cannabis. This is not the case for many, so please do not generalize and post biased arguments." and you go on to rebutt with the fact that abusing marajuana is detrimental. I agree with you wholeheartedly on that point. I have recently stopped smoking alot due to the fact that I felt that myself was being hyprocritical since I try and compare cannabis with alcohol; but I never really abused alcohol. So my point is, we live in a world where it is socially unacceptable nor do I think it will ever (and IMO this is because I have no faith in humanity). But I believe you are wrong in trying to spread the word that cannabis is bad for you. I hope you will try to look at it from my point of view, thanks for your time.
edit: damnit I quoted the wrong thing.
Sorry about getting off topic, I believe that it is entirely wrong to use any drug that may be considered performance-enhancing when it comes to any professional sport/esport, since it may give you an unfair advantage against those who don't use the drugs.
edit2: trying to be relavant
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