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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
February 15 2011 04:53 GMT
#21
On February 15 2011 13:46 BiG wrote:
Xerxes and Hanniball are missing imo when you count those antic guys too :>.

Additionally i think washington is very misplaced as the first right there, but i guess that pick might be biased by the thread creator cuz hes most likely american i guess :o

There's a fairly strong opinion among historians (not necessarily TRUE) that Hannibal's strategic exploits were greatly exaggerated by Roman historians in order to make their triumph seem all the more complete.

Also, Xerxes was good, but the combined leadership of Greece was better. The fact that he lost so badly makes a pretty compelling argument when he had such a numeric superiority over his adversary's that he wasn't all that and a bag of chips.

Just some food for thought.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Deluge-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States117 Posts
February 15 2011 04:54 GMT
#22
Hannibal. Defeated Roman Legions with a less amount of troops. And in some cases it was an utter slaughter of Roman Legions.
stfn
Profile Joined December 2010
United States53 Posts
February 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#23
On February 15 2011 13:53 Shrinky Dink wrote:
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Seriously though, if you look past the horrors he did, he was actually an excellent speaker, with his war machine being responsible for some of the greatest advances in technology and science, and recovered his country's extreme deficit in its economy at the time (following the Treaty of Versailles).

I know it's obviously that he wasn't the greatest of all time, but IMO he is very underrated as a leader for his country since everyone looks at his cons.


He was a politician, not a general.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 04:56:23
February 15 2011 04:55 GMT
#24
Oh, all joking aside:

Ender Wiggin
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Manatea
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)48 Posts
February 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Sun-sin

Korean's superhero, indeed.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
February 15 2011 04:56 GMT
#26
On February 15 2011 13:55 Kimaker wrote:
Oh, all joking aside:

Ender Wiggin


Probably the best book I've ever read in my life. But truly, Bean would have been better. No matter what anyone says.
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exarchrum
Profile Joined August 2010
United States491 Posts
February 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#27
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General Jim Raynor
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Shrinky Dink
Profile Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
February 15 2011 04:57 GMT
#28
On February 15 2011 13:55 Kimaker wrote:
Oh, all joking aside:

Ender Wiggin


seconded, if only he was real T.T
anyone who actually put quotes here are full of lawls
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 05:01:42
February 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#29
This thread is so amazing, so many great generals, it's impossible to say "X is the best of them all"

Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, Erwin Rommel, Heinz Guderian, "Stonewall" Jackson, Robert E. Lee, Genghis Khan, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hannibal, Helmeth Von Moltke (the Elder), Karl Von Clausewitz, Sun Tzu, Patton, Saladin, Suleiman the Magnificent, Pompey, Attila so many more you could go on forever

and then you've always got the problem of history not being 100% proven

this quote sums up the irony of their greatness because the majority of the earth's population doesn't really give a shit about even the most famous ones
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"Ah! The generals! They are numerous but not good for much!"
~Aristophanes~


also, there is a significant difference between a statesman or an orator, and a general. the two sometimes overlap, but they are not one in the same
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9152 Posts
February 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#30
William the Conqueror:

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Few battles have defined human history as much as the Battle of Hastings, which enabled the subsequent Norman subjugation of England.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Biggo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia185 Posts
February 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#31
No love for Sun Tzu?

Still hugely influential today, studied by many of the generals already listed above.
Brethern
Profile Joined February 2011
231 Posts
February 15 2011 04:58 GMT
#32
On February 15 2011 13:53 Shrinky Dink wrote:
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Seriously though, if you look past the horrors he did, he was actually an excellent speaker, with his war machine being responsible for some of the greatest advances in technology and science, and recovered his country's extreme deficit in its economy at the time (following the Treaty of Versailles).

I know it's obviously that he wasn't the greatest of all time, but IMO he is very underrated as a leader for his country since everyone looks at his cons.

Hitler was a horrible general.

If you look into it it was only after he took control of the german forces did the allies cause significant advances in normandy.


My picks of generals are Sun tzu he wrote the book on war and Vlad the impaler. He's the inspiration for Dracula
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 05:00:37
February 15 2011 04:59 GMT
#33
Ulysses S. Grant - Shiloh, Memphis, Vicksburg. Need I say more? Beat Lee because he knew how.
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William T. Sherman - Knew what war would cost, nobody believed him.
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Robert E. Lee - No debate.
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Winfield S. Hancock - Never gets enough credit by Historians I think. I mean without him Gettysburg could have easily been decided differently.
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Phustus
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 05:01:19
February 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#34
how is napoleon not #1! he was sent to jail on a remote island after he was kicked out, he escaped with a small army, the leaders of france send an army to deal with him and he walks out in front of them and gives them a speech and the army sent to take him out joins him helping him to take over france again.

the only reason he lost the battle of waterloo was due to rain and his own field marshals not communicating with him that well.

easily better than anyone else there except ghengis khan.
edit: and alexander the great.
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
February 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#35
Anthony Clement "Nuts" McAuliffe
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Nuts.
Clare
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States372 Posts
February 15 2011 05:00 GMT
#36
General Lee of course!
The dashboard melted but we still had the radio.
MMAchilles923
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4 Posts
February 15 2011 05:01 GMT
#37
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In my opinion Hannibal Barca should be in consideration for the title of greatest general. He decisively beat the Romans in battle such as Carne, Trebia and especially at the Battle of Lake Trasimene. He was a brilliant strategist and I think he may have been the best. I do however agree with many of the others posted here as well.
Shrinky Dink
Profile Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
February 15 2011 05:01 GMT
#38
On February 15 2011 13:55 stfn wrote:
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On February 15 2011 13:53 Shrinky Dink wrote:
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Seriously though, if you look past the horrors he did, he was actually an excellent speaker, with his war machine being responsible for some of the greatest advances in technology and science, and recovered his country's extreme deficit in its economy at the time (following the Treaty of Versailles).

I know it's obviously that he wasn't the greatest of all time, but IMO he is very underrated as a leader for his country since everyone looks at his cons.


He was a politician, not a general.


/facepalm

User was warned for this post
anyone who actually put quotes here are full of lawls
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#39
Undoubtly it's Oda Nobunaga
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
February 15 2011 05:03 GMT
#40
Genghis Khan would have surmounted to nothing if it wasn't for Subutai.
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