EPTOn February 27 2012 19:49 Skilledblob wrote:
Saladin was forgotten in the arab world for a long time.
Saladin was forgotten in the arab world for a long time.
+1 Saladin was a fucking boss (in AoE age of kings also!)
Great Military leaders of History? - Page 58
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
+1 Saladin was a fucking boss (in AoE age of kings also!) | ||
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Jyaki
Australia170 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On February 27 2012 21:42 Crushinator wrote: Nobility does not equal an involvement in politics. Politicians (civilian positions) were never part of the General Staff. It was a purely military organisation. Though family heritage may have played a part in the initial apointment as an army officer, admission to the general staff was very much a matter of proven competence in both the field and military academics.Though officers might have retired to political positions after their time in the military, I highly doubt it was common to hold both military and civilian positions simultaneously. Is that why Moltke 2.0 was in charge of the General Staff in 1914, proven competence? *rolls eyes* I get your general point but lets not get carried away. The Prussian military, like all armies of that era, had pleeenty of room for patronage and nepotism. | ||
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perser84
Germany399 Posts
he won a fight with 50.000 men against the romans that had 16 legions (80.000) on Cannae | ||
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Meteora.GB
Canada2479 Posts
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On February 27 2012 20:58 Crushinator wrote: Though you did correctly identify Bismarck as a Prussian, you seem to have failed to consider the fact that not all Prussians are military officers. Bismark was indeed a master politician and statesman, and as such he was not in the military. *shakes head in disbelief* Fact of the matter is that he was a general, although he obviously was a politician first. He was behind the wars that unified Germany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_bismarck Half of all pictures of him seems to be in his general uniform as well. No need to be condescending. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On February 28 2012 14:57 Meteora.GB wrote: George Patton gets my nod of approval. There's plenty of military generals I admire but from the top of my head I can only think of his name. Patton is so overrated, I have never understood any of the fascination for him. He talked tough and was all AMERICUH and the like, but what battles did he actually win that should make him considerable among the true "great" generals of history? | ||
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Janders
Mexico222 Posts
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forgottendreams
United States1771 Posts
On February 28 2012 13:11 i_am_immure wrote: ![[image loading]](http://killinglincolnthebook.com/images/mugshots/powell-large.jpg) Not a leader per-say. But Lewis Powell was a real standup guy, and did what he thought was right at the time. That's pretty incredible really, I mistook that guy for someone of today. It appears political hipsters have a look of angst and semi-straight edge that is truly timeless! EDIT; ofc I refer to right wing hipsters in this instance.... | ||
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/sgtstubby.html | ||
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kobrakai
175 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:43 1Eris1 wrote: Patton is so overrated, I have never understood any of the fascination for him. He talked tough and was all AMERICUH and the like, but what battles did he actually win that should make him considerable among the true "great" generals of history? Taskforce Baum. I must rescue my son in law and get 265 men out of the 300 sent captured, killed or wounded. Truly the mark of a great, no forgive me, greatest general in history. | ||
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
On February 26 2012 17:19 cydial wrote: I can't believe none of you circle jerking peasants mentioned the greatest Military Leader in the history of recorded civilization. Let me tell you about a man named Admiral Mother Fucking Adama. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://pppsr.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/william_adama.jpeg) Forget the Battle of Salamis, Battle of Leyte Gulf, or some other junk you've heard of as "Great Battles". This mother fucker lead a single Battlestar against an entire fleet of these pieces of shit while he baited them on a wild goose chase throughout the galaxy. ![[image loading]](http://www.lold.org/uploads/2011/03/sci-fi-battlestar-galactica-wallpaper-base-star.jpg) Now there are those that may say, "Cydial you are so full of shit Adama was being chased, he wasn't baiting them." I have to disagree as facts say otherwise. You thought Pearl Harbor was bad? Unlike Pearl Harbor, when shit went down at the human ship yards, then the homeworlds, and the Cylon invasion was in full swing, THERE WAS NO PEARL HARBOR OR AMERICA LEFT TO RETURN TO OR LAUNCH A COUNTER ATTACK FROM. Admiral Mother Fucking Adama however, didn't give a flying shit. You thought the battle of Midway, Hitler's Blitzkrieg, the battle of Gettysburg, or some other boring bullshit battle was brilliant in its execution or planning? Wrong. No wonder a bunch of herps are able to derp at us from caves with shit from hardware stores and weapons that can be made in a god damn basement. They are teaching our military leaders battles like Waterloo, Vienna, Antietam, Yorktown, and a bunch of other bronze level shit. Let me introduce to you, The Battle of New Caprica Not only did he co-ordinate with ground forces for a duel pronged attack which would culminate in fleet + infantry battle by himself as an Admiral. He simultaneously evacuated tens of thousands of stranded civilians while he was at it. Not only that, but he brilliantly out manuevers the fuck out of the Cylon fleet by splitting their forces through deception by way of false EM signatures emitted by drones, to get his fighers to support the ground forces on New Caprica he launches his fighters while his Battlestar is falling through the fucking atmosphere of the planet he is attempting to liberate. Then he activates the FTL drive inside the atmosphere to peace the fuck out and engage the Cylon fleet in space. Top gun has nothing on this. ![[image loading]](http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/bsg-jump-01.jpg) The only lose suffered by the Terrans was some random ship that showed up and promptly got blown the fuck up by the Cylon fleet however, this was something that was out of Admiral Adama's control as noobs never listen. All in all this was the most insane fucking thing to ever happen in the history of Warfare. So say we all... Too bad he went mad in his later years and turned into one half of the "trinity killer"  | ||
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Meser87
United States476 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:52 FlyingToilet wrote: what so the OP got banned? and so now his post is edited to nuke... and a bad ass link to a badass leader so i don't steer away from thread, and lol its a pit bull terrier thats a ww1 vet and i think was a sgt. and had a special dog war medal made just for him, lol so badass! http://www.badassoftheweek.com/sgtstubby.html this was an amazing read and even if only half of it is true(hoping all of it is) then this dog is still bad ass! | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutuz | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6633 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_von_Clausewitz | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On March 02 2012 23:52 Art.FeeL wrote: Is anybody even aware that a person named Qutuz destroyed the Mongol army and stopped their advances? If it wasn't for him the Mongols would've probably re-enter Europe from Spain. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qutuz Qutuz and the Mamlukes beat the Mongols, yes - after Genghis Khan had died and a large amount of the Mongol forces (including their commander) had left. Still an impressive victory, but things have to be taken into consideration. | ||
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FallenStar
Spain118 Posts
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yB.TeH
Germany414 Posts
he was great in any aspect of war or like heinrich heine said:“Napoleon was not of the stuff that kings are made of– he was of the marble from which gods are hewn” | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nkfGH.jpg)  | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Also a big fan of Themistocles(is that how you spell it?) the admiral who was holding off the Persians by sea when Leonidas was making his famous stand. | ||
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