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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:12 Half wrote: And apparently every single psychological study conducted in the past 30 years. But I guess your too smart for those huh  EASILY the most ironic thing I see on the internet on a daily basis | ||
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D3ath3nat0r
United States163 Posts
it really wants to make me do well, you can be popular now in school but end up being a dumb ass and no1 liking you in the future | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:15 Romance_us wrote: EASILY the most ironic thing I see on the internet on a daily basis Yeah, but he's still right. There's a lot of evidence to support what he said. | ||
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.Aar
2177 Posts
To make this post worth posting, though, here's an interesting book on the subject you might want to check out. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
I find it striking how so many "Chinese mothers" entirely neglect the importance of social skills in favor of 2400s, 4.0s and international music/math/science recognitions. In all of likelihood a person is not born with the talent he needs to be the indubitable god-gifted prodigy. More likely, copious quantities of hard work will bring him to a level of mere excellence. But in today's world, excellence alone will not bring you success or even money. Additionally required are other people. Who you know (and more importantly, who knows you), given a sufficient competence level, is THE deciding factor. It is also the factor that may become a soulcrushing barrier to the child of the Chinese mother. | ||
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blankspace
United States292 Posts
I mean it's about finding the right balance. You shouldn't be so lax that your kid goes down a shitty path and has horrible values but you can't push them to the breaking point. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Sawajiri
Austria417 Posts
What might be a good method for one kid won't be for another. One kid might flourish under an "Asian mom" and become highly successful; another may rebel hardcore and do porn by the age of 18 just to stick it to them. One kid may end up a wonderfully creative, well-balanced person under "Western parents," and others may end up as lazy underachievers. I just find it really hard to generalize when the success of parenting depends so much on a child's individual personality, talents, and interests. | ||
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DrivE
United States2554 Posts
If a Chinese child gets a B—which would never happen—there would first be a screaming, hair-tearing explosion. The devastated Chinese mother would then get dozens, maybe hundreds of practice tests and work through them with her child for as long as it takes to get the grade up to an A. I found this paragraph to be extremely exaggerated. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
but this is too based on her own family and making it stereotype regardless of the stats used earlier in the article. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
The part about having fun only when a certain degree of mastery is achieved really shines, in my opinion. EDIT: I think this article is suitable for a western audience, but would gain bad publicity in Asia. I'd also like to point out that the author herself is a graduate of Harvard Law School and a professor of law at Yale - i.e. she is highly intelligent and successful - I assume her children are pretty smart too. Trying this on a very averaged kid and this will bond to fail. | ||
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forcestealer
Canada60 Posts
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Half
United States2554 Posts
Food for thought. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:20 Sawajiri wrote: My opinion on parenting is that there is no such thing as "one size fits all." What might be a good method for one kid won't be for another. One kid might flourish under an "Asian mom" and become highly successful; another may rebel hardcore and do porn by the age of 18 just to stick it to them. One kid may end up a wonderfully creative, well-balanced person under "Western parents," and others may end up as lazy underachievers. I just find it really hard to generalize when the success of parenting depends so much on a child's individual personality, talents, and interests. edit: basically this You guys can talk all you want about how Chinese kids are not well-balanced or aren't normal, but I think just as many Western kids are depressed/have low self esteem as Chinese kids. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
Also, raising children in this way tends to produce obsessive-compulsive, perfectionistic adults who are prone to depression. | ||
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:24 Half wrote: You know, I've always found the amount of Asian students in top tier business schools in the states and the amount of Asian CEOs to be quite odd, on that note. is there alot or a little? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:21 forcestealer wrote: i find it funny how she assumes that being child prodigy at the piano or violin = financial success, an obvious a fallacy judging on the current state of western music -.-she also fails to indicate to what happens when the children leave their parents... She didn't say that. Frankly, I think it's better to spend time on violin than on playing sc2. Not that I hate sc2, I am just stating what is probably her point of view - make children spend time on music instead of other, perhaps less desirable, activities. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Meh. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:03 Jumperer wrote: most chinese kids are emotionally unstable because they have been abused like a slave when they were younger. Slave is a bit harsh, children to work the farm is a legitimate 19th century european and american reason to have them. Now just replace farm with family status. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6uo1KD4buY had to | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On January 09 2011 09:26 Sufficiency wrote: She didn't say that. Frankly, I think it's better to spend time on violin than on playing sc2. Not that I hate sc2, I am just stating what is probably her point of view - make children spend time on music instead of other, perhaps less desirable, activities. Except she specifically states that they are only allowed to learn either piano or violin. So she clearly feels that only those two are worthy/capable of making you into a successful (wealthy) person. I think that above all else if everyone adhered to this method of raising their kids the would would be a fucking boring place. | ||
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