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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8778 Posts
October 29 2014 11:45 GMT
#941
On October 29 2014 20:14 ahswtini wrote:
Well, good thing it was unmanned


ye. that's about the only thing good about it.
fawns over the new helipad's rave reviews.
TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
October 29 2014 14:04 GMT
#942
Do they know the reason why the launch failed yet?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6678 Posts
October 29 2014 14:18 GMT
#943
14% drop on Orbital Sciences stock but it's still well up since before commercial ISS resupply started.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
October 29 2014 14:20 GMT
#944
The fault was probably caused by using 40 year old soviet AJ-26 rocket engines, one of which recently exploded during testing.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/05/antares-aj-26-engine-fails-stennis-testing/
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
October 29 2014 14:30 GMT
#945
The rocket was selfdestructed after a capital engine failure in the first stage.

The vicepresident of Orbital Sciences confirmed that he gave the order, first indications point to a faulty fueltank - but they say it's too soon to say for sure. Interestingly enough, i only found a swiss source on that.

http://www.20min.ch/wissen/news/story/Ungluecks-Raumfrachter-wurde-gesprengt-13971126

The fault was probably caused by using 40 year old soviet AJ-26 rocket engines, one of which recently exploded during testing.


The AJ-26 is not soviet. The NK-33 which it's based on is. The AJ-26 is rebuilt and tweaked by Aerojet.
On track to MA1950A.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2014 16:04 GMT
#946
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2014 16:32 GMT
#947
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2014 18:10 GMT
#948


NASA is down to one commercial provider of cargo to the International Space Station until an investigation determines what caused an unmanned Orbital Sciences Corp. rocket to blow up Tuesday evening shortly after lifting off from a Virginia pad.

The Antares rocket's failure leaves SpaceX as the only U.S. company able to fly cargo to the orbiting laboratory for the near future, raising the stakes of SpaceX's next launch from Cape Canaveral, Fla., which is planned no earlier than Dec. 9.

A Cygnus spacecraft packed with more than 5,000 pounds of equipment and science experiments was destroyed Tuesday when the 14-story rocket suffered a problem with its first stage and fell back to the ground, generating a massive fireball on impact.

No one was injured. The severity of damage to the Wallops Island launch pad was not immediately known.


Source
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 29 2014 20:29 GMT
#949
NPR's Geoff Brumfiel reports that as investigators examine what went wrong with the launch of an unmanned Antares rocket on Tuesday, they'll likely take a hard look at powerful engines originally destined to send cosmonauts to the moon, a project that was scrapped by the USSR more than four decades ago.

Geoff says that although the investigation is just starting, the NK-33 rocket engine is already a focus. It was produced for the N1 moon rocket — the Soviet Union's answer to the U.S. Saturn V. But the N1 became mired in development problems, and the Soviet moon project, hopelessly behind the Americans, was quietly scuttled circa 1974.

Fast-forward to 2010: The NK-33s were refurbished and re-designated by Aerojet Rocketdyne as the AJ26 and sold to Dulles-based Orbital Sciences for use in Antares. Although four previous flights of Antares have gone off without a hitch, one of the engines failed during testing earlier this year, Geoff says.

"They were in fact built in Russia about 40 years ago and stored in plastic bags after their moon program was canceled," Jonathan McDowell, of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, tells NPR.


Source
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tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
October 29 2014 20:31 GMT
#950
because company knows the best what the people want right? worked good with time warner internet for example. well reality is america is just to poor. gl with private sector, as long as you can afford it.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-31 18:54:17
October 31 2014 18:51 GMT
#951
Virgin's SpaceShipTwo just crashed, fate of the pilots currently unknown.

http://spaceflightnow.com/2014/10/31/virgin-galactics-spaceshiptwo-suffers-anomaly-during-test-flight/

EDIT:

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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
October 31 2014 18:55 GMT
#952
Yeah the news is reporting one dead, one seriously injured.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
October 31 2014 19:06 GMT
#953
Wow, not a good week so far T_T

I just read on CNN apparently the Antares rocket was scrapped intentionally, something about a boat 40 miles off where it would fly over.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/us/antares-rocket-explosion/index.html

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 31 2014 19:10 GMT
#954
Two chutes were spotted. The third pilot was still strapped in apparently.

The Carrier landed safely but engine trouble took care if the rest. The redesigned rocket was done by Sierra Nevada Corp.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 31 2014 19:17 GMT
#955
Apparently the rocket blew up as soon as it was ignited. Pilot didn't have a chance.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 31 2014 21:47 GMT
#956
Well... that sucks.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 31 2014 22:05 GMT
#957
Virgin Space was always the least promising of all the private space companies, Branson is a marketing genius but the operational side of his businesses -- whatever industry group you want to pick -- sucked wind. The personal tragedy angle is terrible but it isnt like one of SpaceX's rockets exploded, the visionary companies are still doing ok.
"They were in fact built in Russia about 40 years ago and stored in plastic bags after their moon program was canceled," Jonathan McDowell, of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, tells NPR.

And thats why SpaceX is the best space company, because they are actually trying to design a brand new rocket instead of recycle tired old crap on the cheap.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-02 00:03:27
November 01 2014 23:58 GMT
#958
And thats why SpaceX is the best space company, because they are actually trying to design a brand new rocket instead of recycle tired old crap on the cheap.


Apart from the part where that dude is trying to be populistic and spreads bs.

I'm not sure if you have any clue about rocket-motors in general, but that "russian old crap" is more efficient than any(!) US rocket-motor of today (including SLS and Falcon9). In terms of t2w ratio AND specific impuls.

"It's russian, must be shit" is so tiresome to read. SpaceX's "new design for a brand new rocket" is less efficient than 40 year old "russian crap", so i have no idea where your comment comes from. Not to mention that orbital science corp doesn't recycle anything on the cheap, it's Aerojet retrofitting and refurbishing it. You know, the same stuff that was done with the shuttle and it's SRBs.

Now, as you know, i'm the first one to jump on the bandwagon if it is about hating russia (as long as it's justified) - but spouting random misinformation "just because" sucks.

edit: wow, just checked your source, really?

Fyi, the N1 didn't use NK-33 motors, but NK-15s. The NK-33 was intended to be used in an advanced version of the N1(F), which has never even seen a launchpad. Come on.
On track to MA1950A.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 02 2014 01:24 GMT
#959
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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 02 2014 02:07 GMT
#960
On November 02 2014 08:58 m4ini wrote:
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And thats why SpaceX is the best space company, because they are actually trying to design a brand new rocket instead of recycle tired old crap on the cheap.


Apart from the part where that dude is trying to be populistic and spreads bs.

I'm not sure if you have any clue about rocket-motors in general, but that "russian old crap" is more efficient than any(!) US rocket-motor of today (including SLS and Falcon9). In terms of t2w ratio AND specific impuls.

"It's russian, must be shit" is so tiresome to read. SpaceX's "new design for a brand new rocket" is less efficient than 40 year old "russian crap", so i have no idea where your comment comes from. Not to mention that orbital science corp doesn't recycle anything on the cheap, it's Aerojet retrofitting and refurbishing it. You know, the same stuff that was done with the shuttle and it's SRBs.

Now, as you know, i'm the first one to jump on the bandwagon if it is about hating russia (as long as it's justified) - but spouting random misinformation "just because" sucks.

edit: wow, just checked your source, really?

Fyi, the N1 didn't use NK-33 motors, but NK-15s. The NK-33 was intended to be used in an advanced version of the N1(F), which has never even seen a launchpad. Come on.


I agree that the old russian crap line is annoying, but the Merlin 1D does have a higher TWR than the NK-33. And it's not just 40 year old technology, which is ok because as you said it's as good or better than anything they build now. But it's literally 40 year old hardware. Refurbished and tested but still a little surprising.
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