Not to make light of a serious situation, but that guy is a fucking badass!
Rio de Janeiro on the edge of Civil War - Page 11
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
Not to make light of a serious situation, but that guy is a fucking badass! | ||
hefty
Denmark555 Posts
On November 27 2010 00:39 theinvisiblePLER wrote: And you Europeans say the U.S. has no knowledge about the rest of the world... HAH Yeah, I find it odd too that we have heard next to nothing of it. Bums me out, it seems a bit egocentric. | ||
Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
On November 27 2010 00:20 Kipsate wrote: It is not weird at all, here in the Netherlands noone is writing about it at all either, we get drowned in news about the EU financial status and stuff regarding the PIIGS countries and Iceland, and a bit of Korea on the side Brazil?nowhere to be seen Still,stay safe and hopefully the police will take care of it Not true. News about this was on the news yesterday and specifically on teletext. | ||
Lucho
19 Posts
1st of all, the city is nowhere near a civil war, such a thing is very very very unlikly to happen anywhere in Brazil, this is not Colombia where 1 faction control 40% of the territory. In Rio, organized crimes do control most of the slums, and yes, they heave a lot of big guns (not rocket laucher or nukes) but some nice guns... I lived in Rio almost all my life (left it 3 years ago) and if you live in the rich areas, there is nothing you need to worry about except the usual problems a big city has with some crimes. Of course some times some big shits do happen around it, but its RARE. Now the suburbs, well thats a holy diferent story. It is very violent, if you dont know where you are going you might end up in same shitty place and yes, it may cost your life due some drug dealer or whatever. But the thing is, there is no "secondery power" in Rio challengin the current power for the right to rule, as a civil war would. They are just responding to the new actions that the state of Rio is doing to fight crime, which they have done before and failed, and will probably fail again. You guys might think that everyone in Rio is living in fear and nobody wants to leave their home, but that is not how things work down here. Most of us simply dont care about wtf is going on in the suburbs and keep going on with our normal lifes since we are "protected" from the danger. It is a very very big city, so dont think that because something crazy is happenin in Rio, it doesnt mean its happenin around ALL Rio. But anyway, i think i typed too much... And for the original post, man, if you live in Barra da Tijuca or Zona sul, and you are scared to leave your house, you need a frickin doctor...for real | ||
D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Also, I went out yesterday night and it seemed ok, when I get home everyone is freaking out because shots were being fired there rosas 1 hour earlier. They even threw a molotov in the parking lot of barra shopping but didnt manage to set anything on fire. Certainly ridiculously safer than the suburbs, goes to show how fucked up the situation is. | ||
Gleen
Brazil707 Posts
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Lucho
19 Posts
And im not sayin its under control, im just sayin it doesnt fall into the concept of a civil war | ||
Gleen
Brazil707 Posts
On November 27 2010 02:38 Lucho wrote: My sister lives in Parque das rosas, so i guess ill call her to confirm that shots have really been fired there. And im not sayin its under control, im just sayin it doesnt fall into the concept of a civil war Attacks are scattered all around the city... that why everyone is pretty much scared. | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
I hope that none of you are caught in the crossfire of violence that is not your fault. | ||
Lucho
19 Posts
On November 27 2010 02:57 Holcan wrote: Best of luck to anyone in Brazil/Rio de Janeiro. I hope that none of you are caught in the crossfire of violence that is not your fault. In Rio, its a big country, what is happenin there, is happenin ONLY there i live in Curitiba and thank god this city is perfect | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
But it's worth mentioning that the action from the army bringing heavily armed men and even tanks to the streets is just a "security theater". Just like TSA screenings in US airports. They're made to make the population feel safe. But have a really insignificant effect. Rio has over 400 slums. When the army invade ones, they can just run to the next. And they have been doing that since forever. And at the rate they take to invade, they'll never catch up. The problem isn't much different now from what it has ever been for decades and won't get better anytime soon if they don't attack the core of the issue. Which is police corrution. Even the current governor this time admitted that the police cannot be trusted. The issue is well know for a long time. But no one is trying to solve it. It's simply not as populist to fight corruption than it is to put tanks in the streets. They'll go for what gives the most votes. Eventually the situation will calm down. Then it will come back. As it always has. For decades. | ||
Gleen
Brazil707 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + if any mod find this ofensive fell free to remove the content.. | ||
Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
It's not like the criminals were being chased down with machetes were they? | ||
fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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nbMifu
Brazil170 Posts
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On November 27 2010 05:15 fabiano wrote: heavy weapons can torn your body apart with no effort at all... I understand that, but looking at the picture, the injuries seemed pretty damn "smooth", as if it were sliced. Hell the entire arm is lying just right beside the body. | ||
Lucho
19 Posts
On November 27 2010 04:04 VIB wrote: The problem isn't much different now from what it has ever been for decades and won't get better anytime soon if they don't attack the core of the issue. Which is police corrution. im sorry, but police corruption aint the core of the problem, its just another part of it (mostly due their low salaries) The real core of the problem is traffic, and drug consumers (middle-high class shitheads) it and finance all the drug dealers. Not to say the lack of funds to patrol the borders to stop weapons from coming in, since ppl in the slums do not make those. | ||
ThE_ShiZ
United States143 Posts
In Rio, organized crimes do control most of the slums, and yes, they heave a lot of big guns (not rocket laucher or nukes) but some nice guns... Actually, Im pretty sure they have american grenade launchers, and night vision goggles. Saw it in a documentary and they showed the confiscated weaponry. But yeah, the state is so corrupt and the gangs thrive off the police, and vice versa. It was only a matter of time. The structure is too unstable. The funny thing is, the police ram down the doors of favela civilians, but the rich are the ones buying the drugs.The wealthy class in Rio doesn't want the drug gangs on theuir turf but they're willing to buy their drugs. The policve know this but you don't see them busting down the doors of the wealthy. I'm not saying this is an excuse for the gangs, just a reason. | ||
Gleen
Brazil707 Posts
On November 27 2010 05:19 nbMifu wrote: I just heard on TV that a soldier was shot. Don't seem like his life is at risk, and I coudn't find any news about it on the internet. If I find something else I share it with you. Near 20 soldiers were injured until now. | ||
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