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On December 02 2010 03:05 Ganjamaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 02:39 StarCraft2arena wrote:Brazil has everything it takes to be a developed country, but there are just a few things that is holding us off:
- Political corruption
- Criminality
- Lack of complete education (since primary school up to university) culture for the majority of people (usually poor people). Every child wants to become a Ronaldinho and not an Einstein.
If you have formal education, you will live a good life in this country. We just need to change our culture so education is priority, and not sports. True, sad but True !! Responding to an earlier post, Brazil has to be the easiest country to score weed in, by far. Brazil is not so bad, at least you guys have a good economy and decent jobs. We dont have anything  .
You beat us at soccer, you have that =O
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Situation has mostly stabilized, as I predicted, the drug dealers escaped from the favela before it was invaded by an underground sewer tunnel from early 1900's to another favela 2km from there, and then vanished.
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On December 02 2010 03:30 D10 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 03:05 Ganjamaster wrote:On November 30 2010 02:39 StarCraft2arena wrote:Brazil has everything it takes to be a developed country, but there are just a few things that is holding us off:
- Political corruption
- Criminality
- Lack of complete education (since primary school up to university) culture for the majority of people (usually poor people). Every child wants to become a Ronaldinho and not an Einstein.
If you have formal education, you will live a good life in this country. We just need to change our culture so education is priority, and not sports. True, sad but True !! Responding to an earlier post, Brazil has to be the easiest country to score weed in, by far. Brazil is not so bad, at least you guys have a good economy and decent jobs. We dont have anything . You beat us at soccer, you have that =O
We beat you only when we play for nothing. If there was a bottle of soda at stake, the brazilians would 3-0 or 5-0 us as happened in the last Copa America or in the Confederations cup.
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nice image
//tx
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On December 02 2010 02:58 Domokan wrote:
poor rallying up to go kill rich people, hope the cops kill them thats not how you solve anything. If I work hard and got rich I don't want no poor coming at me to kill me cause I worked hard.
1) Most of the rich in brazil are rich because they were born rich.
2) It's not "the poor" rallying to kill rich people. It's gangsters, people involved in drugs and crime organizations that were causing shit on the street to show power against the pacifying act the police were performing.
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On December 02 2010 10:56 FortuneSyn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 02:58 Domokan wrote:
poor rallying up to go kill rich people, hope the cops kill them thats not how you solve anything. If I work hard and got rich I don't want no poor coming at me to kill me cause I worked hard. 1) Most of the rich in brazil are rich because they were born rich. 2) It's not "the poor" rallying to kill rich people. It's gangsters, people involved in drugs and crime organizations that were causing shit on the street to show power against the pacifying act the police were performing.
The police are actually helping the poor by displacing the drug dealers. Drug dealers make millions of dollars selling drugs, weapons and prostitutions in the favelas or shantytowns. This allows them to effectively rule over the favela, forcing the honest poor people who live in them (the vast majority) to live in fear and under constant abuse of every kind imaginable.
Additionally, the drug dealers bring a bad reputation to the favelas which makes it harder for the people to live in them to get legitimate employment, since employers will be wary of their potential criminality just by virtue of them living in the favela.
Clearing of criminals is clearly the way to go not only for the 2014 world cup but also to rehabilitate Rio and make it a more tourist friendly city than it already is. Lula can afford to do this now that he is on the way out and has secured his legacy through Dilma.
Brazil has been doing things right in Latin america for a while now and I have to give them props for that. I wish we had leadership of that quality here instead of a bunch of goddamn crooks.
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On December 1, police discovered four gang members shot dead, in an abandoned automobile. A 13- year old illiterate, drug-using, orphaned female, detained on December 3, confessed to being part of the gang that attacked the 350 bus on Passeio-Iraja bus line and identified the four dead males as having participated in the attack.
They were reportedly ordered murdered by a gang leader named Mica, who is vying for control of the gang with the head of drug trafficking in the Morro da Fe, Lorde, who ordered the original bus attack. Police, however, are also investigating other possible explanations for these acts, such as retaliation against a crooked cop attempt to extort the gang or Brazil's most feared druglord, Fernandinho Beira-Mar of the Red Command (Comando Vermelho), ordering the hit from his maximum security seclusion in the north of Brazil for unknown reasons. An anonymous phone call to the police, ostensibly by a Red Command member, said the four dead gang members were not shot in the head, specifically so that they could be recognized both by the victims and the police.
This was from the 2005 incidents, but the cable keeps going on how the situation is generally always the same.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR19/025/2005/en/bb459966-d49c-11dd-8a23-d58a49c0d652/amr190252005en.html
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About 250 members of an elite police unit moved into the shantytowns, which have been virtual no-go areas for the security forces.
The operation is part of a long-term plan by the Brazilian authorities to retake poor areas of the city from drug gangs.
Police said the operation was peaceful, but that many gang members had escaped.
Police Captain Ivan Blaz said residents had been warned of the imminent police action, but that as a result most of the criminals they had sought had left the area.
He said his agents were searching the area house by house.
"Many criminals hide in houses and pretend to be normal residents, so we're going to move slowly and with care," Captain Blaz explained.
The Brazilian government has said it wants to rid Rio of drugs gangs ahead of the 2014 Football World Cup and the 2016 Olympic Games.
Thursday's sweep targeted the Engenho Novo area near the Maracana football stadium, which will host the final of the World Cup.
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