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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
November 21 2010 01:06 GMT
#81
On November 21 2010 04:26 Swagga wrote:
I immigrated to Canada from Korea at the age of 7. In the early years in Canada, i grew up in a Caucasian/Polish-majority community and i spoke fluent English by 2nd year because i was young. Then i went to an IB high school which consisted of 40% Asian, 40% Southern Asian and like 20% Caucasians so i had the experience of observing people who were trying to learn English.

The best way to learn English in my opinion is by hanging out with friends that speak English. There are many Koreans/Chinese that are only friends with their own race, which is understandable, but they have major problems with English. Even the hardcore "fobs" that has been in Canada for over 3 years have issues with English since their friends are like them as well. If you hang out with your country of origin crowd only, you exclude most of the other population from your group, thereby reducing chances of close friends from other backgrounds, whereas if you know English, you can be friends with virtually anyone in Canada.

I would say watching TV would be the second best option because it allows you to learn the casual conversation vocabs. My one friend is like half-fob, and also has a small vocab pool even though he was in Canada for 6 years. It's quite embarrassing that he does not even know some of the most commonly used words/phrases and it's sad that he doesn't even know who people like Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus are. He only listens to Korean music and hang out with too many Korean fobs. TV is good for word choice learning because the things people say on TV shows especially comedy are perfect sentences to say during conversations, so it improves word choices greatly. Plus, comedy could be enjoyable.

What i wouldn't really recommend is gaming because i tried to improve my french through games and it didn't work out too well because the internet uses so much slang and short forms that you're just completely lost and kids on games rarely use vocabs that are useful in real life. Anyways, gaming wouldn't improve speaking at all. I am above average at writing/reading french, but when it comes to speaking it, i wouldn't survive a day in Paris.


This basically has zero relevance to the thread.
cristo1122
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia505 Posts
November 21 2010 02:23 GMT
#82
As some who took ages to read i was 13 before i was literate reading helps alot especially books and broadsheet newspapers i.e. not tabloids as the word usage is usally limited. I set myself the target of reading 1 book a week and now my spelling is not outstanding but is much improved
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
November 21 2010 02:33 GMT
#83
On November 19 2010 23:15 riptide wrote:
A lot of people are probably going to recommend books, tutorials, grammar exercises, and some of they may even be good. As a teacher though, let me just rehash what I tell students all the time.

Language is usually a numbers game. Looking up words is good, but usually you'll need to look up the same word a few times on a few different occasions for it to sink in. Also, in many cases, despite looking up the definition of the word, you will most likely remember the word based on the contexts you have already seen it in. That's why reading is so important - the amount you 'improve' in the written variety of a language is largely correlated to how much time you spend reading and writing in it.

If you are a native speaker, the most effective way to increased fluency is reading. It's unfortunate that you don't like to read, but my advice would be to find something you do like to read. Of course, if you're looking to really expand your vocabulary, read across genres, and read widely at that.

In fact a great way to get started in this exercise is to grab a copy of <em>The Language Instinct</em> by Pinker. It'll help you understand more about your brain's language center and why reading is such an important part of language acquisition.

Basically our brains are wired to 'learn' or acquire (in your case, acquire more, or 'improve') language while we use it, so unless you are reading (and writing, since output cements what you have acquired), you probably wont get very far.

Anyway, good luck!

Riptide is very multitalented.
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
November 21 2010 05:58 GMT
#84
Books books books.

One person suggested The Economist in this thread and I second that. They're very well written and they don't lean to either side of the political spectrum that much when it comes to US politics (Im not so sure about Britain, where they're mainly located). I know when people think The Economist they think boring economics, but that magazine's interesting world news.

If that isn't your cup of tea, then find what you're interested in (that's not video games) and find a good publication that writes about the subject.
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salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 21 2010 06:43 GMT
#85
I didn't read all the suggestions, but if you are already in the habit of looking up a word then also add this word to a list when you do, either on your computer if you prefer to look them up online or on paper which you keep next to or inside the dictionary.
And then like once a week just go over the list and try to recall the meaning of those words if you can't remember a word right away just look it up again. Repetition is the easiest way to remember something.
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Gentlebite
Profile Joined May 2010
United States132 Posts
November 21 2010 06:57 GMT
#86
Play lotsa role playing games that make you read alot =D
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 07:12:06
November 21 2010 07:10 GMT
#87
well the key to learning anything is repetition, of course you won't learn a word instantly if you only read it's definition once, it's got to be something that is a part of your vocabulary for it to stick. Some people mentioned listening to music, this is a good idea as you will want to learn something that has meaning to you, especially music. Basically anything that you like and has good vocabulary will allow the word to stick with you for ever. For example, I had no idea what rax, pool or other starcraft vocabulary meant for quite awhile but my love for the subject allowed me to learn it's vocab despite most of it being abbreviations.

I'm sure if I wanted to, I could learn the korean words for starcraft related material if I tried hard enough and wouldn't be too over whelming since I love starcraft so much.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 07:42:04
November 21 2010 07:41 GMT
#88
perhaps it's a bit sad, but i read dickens, swift, etc. in 6th grade just as trophy books. books that you read just to say you read them. it wasn't that i didn't understand most of it (yes, there are some outdated phrases and sayings that can be hard to comprehend the first time through), but as you read more of the same stuff, you start to get a feel for how the english language is typically used and most importantly what is considered "masterful usage of the english language." personally i could not give two craps about how people use language so long as they get the point across and it isn't obnoxious (think per say instead of per se). still, there is a standard for what is "appropriate" in english and mass reading is the best way to get acquainted with it. as a bonus, your reading speed should increase dramatically which can only help you later in life (reading scientific articles, law briefs, etc.)
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javed044
Profile Joined February 2015
Bangladesh1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 16:40:06
February 26 2015 16:39 GMT
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