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On February 21 2011 05:52 balintk wrote:
Hi! I want to buy a headphone, but I can not decide.
SteelSeries Siberia v2
or
Sennheiser HD555(used)
The headphone should be music and game for long time.
Haven't tested any of those two but read tons of reviews lately since I wanted to buy my own gear and if you wanna spend on sound quality and don't care about no microphone/cool siberian factor, it seems Sennheiser is the better choice. Audiophiles/happy owners of both can confirm/disagree. Just go up this thread, I think it's been discussed already....
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sennheiser 555 easy if you care about sound quality.
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On February 21 2011 00:05 Fyodor wrote:
That's what I'm talking about!
I wish I could have time with serious gear like that. Not at some noisy meet or a quick listen though.
if you live anywhere near NJ, you're free to give the LCD-2's a listen
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Specific request here:
Looking for someone who has owned both Astro a40s or a30s AND Sennheiser 555/595s (either). Can anyone compare these two headsets and give me reasoning as to which one you like more and why? Not interested in just reviews/hearsay/brand loyalty, but if anyone has physically used both that'd be awesome.
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![[image loading]](http://img4.cherchons.com/374x600/47482/Grado-RS-1.jpg)
Button Grado RS-1 (with flat pads)
![[image loading]](http://www.erenumerique.fr/images/43/20061108/Sennheiser_HD650.jpg)
Sennheiser HD650
depending on my mood and what i'm listening, but the RS1 is really growing on me 
also got a grado sr60i for travels, car and things like that (with some great reversed yellow sennheiser pads)
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Australia8532 Posts
Hello ever faithful TL community..
I am looking for a reliable, kick ass set of headphones for gaming but i also need it to have a mic on it for other reasons..
Anyone got any suggestions - i'd prefer ones based on actual use as opposed to reviews etc.. Looking around the $200 mark? But i'm flexible 
edit: Just saw the Astro a40s .. are they worth it?
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![[image loading]](http://hifi-ring.com/uploads/posts/victor_jvc_hp-rx900.jpg)
Brilliant for their price.
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On February 21 2011 17:48 bkrow wrote:Hello ever faithful TL community.. I am looking for a reliable, kick ass set of headphones for gaming but i also need it to have a mic on it for other reasons.. Anyone got any suggestions - i'd prefer ones based on actual use as opposed to reviews etc.. Looking around the $200 mark? But i'm flexible edit: Just saw the Astro a40s .. are they worth it?
ATH-AD700's with a $10 Zalman clip-on mic. (Unless, you'd be playing in a really noisy area like a massive LAN party)
and you'll still have $20 extra for food and drinks :D
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Does anyone know where I can get some awesome headphones that are square in shape?
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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Would anyone mind explaining Frequency Response a bit to me? I had a friend tell me before to look for headphones that were at least 20-20k, if not wider, but from a bit of research I've been doing, it looks like accuracy is a lot more important for sound quality. I'm talking more generally about IEMs, because for example I've found some that claim high accuracy, but have a frequency response smaller than the 20-20k range. So basically anyone care to enlighten me? :p
Also, I'm not too sure about some other technical specifications I see all the time, are there any links people know where I could get a good explanation of what to look for in IEMs, and how to compare them based on tech specs?
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On February 22 2011 13:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Would anyone mind explaining Frequency Response a bit to me? I had a friend tell me before to look for headphones that were at least 20-20k, if not wider, but from a bit of research I've been doing, it looks like accuracy is a lot more important for sound quality. I'm talking more generally about IEMs, because for example I've found some that claim high accuracy, but have a frequency response smaller than the 20-20k range. So basically anyone care to enlighten me? :p
Also, I'm not too sure about some other technical specifications I see all the time, are there any links people know where I could get a good explanation of what to look for in IEMs, and how to compare them based on tech specs?
http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/in-ear
I think that answers just about all your questions. My personal pair are the hifiman RE0's. They sound ridiculously good for the size and absolutely cream my speaker setup at home EXCEPT for the bass. Bass is accurate but it's extremely weak.
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Haha, they're pink.
Thanks! I'll give them an order and try them out~
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On February 22 2011 13:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Would anyone mind explaining Frequency Response a bit to me? I had a friend tell me before to look for headphones that were at least 20-20k, if not wider, but from a bit of research I've been doing, it looks like accuracy is a lot more important for sound quality. I'm talking more generally about IEMs, because for example I've found some that claim high accuracy, but have a frequency response smaller than the 20-20k range. So basically anyone care to enlighten me? :p
Also, I'm not too sure about some other technical specifications I see all the time, are there any links people know where I could get a good explanation of what to look for in IEMs, and how to compare them based on tech specs?
FR graphs mean nothing to how a headphone sounds, or Technical Specs in that matter. There are headphones out there with FR's that state 5-30k but would end up as a very bass-light headphone.
Basically for IEMs you just gotta trust an honest opinion and hope you'll like the sound.
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On February 22 2011 14:08 HuggyBear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 13:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Would anyone mind explaining Frequency Response a bit to me? I had a friend tell me before to look for headphones that were at least 20-20k, if not wider, but from a bit of research I've been doing, it looks like accuracy is a lot more important for sound quality. I'm talking more generally about IEMs, because for example I've found some that claim high accuracy, but have a frequency response smaller than the 20-20k range. So basically anyone care to enlighten me? :p
Also, I'm not too sure about some other technical specifications I see all the time, are there any links people know where I could get a good explanation of what to look for in IEMs, and how to compare them based on tech specs? FR graphs mean nothing to how a headphone sounds, or Technical Specs in that matter. There are headphones out there with FR's that state 5-30k but would end up as a very bass-light headphone. Basically for IEMs you just gotta trust an honest opinion and hope you'll like the sound.
FR graphs do tell something about what a headphone sounds like. Frequency range, however, does not tell you much if anything. You really need to know the power at every given frequency.
For example this:
![[image loading]](http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2033)
Means that the headphone is relatively balanced from bass to highs. Perhaps a little warmth and a touch of treble energy. (These are one of the best headphones in the world and they sell for $1300. Most of the top-end headphones try to have a FR graph somewhat like this.)
![[image loading]](http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=1193)
These are the headphones used in the GSL. The Sony ones that have pillows for pads. The graph shows that they specialize in spewing out industrial quantities of bass.
As far as I know, there is no technical spec that you can find which can objectively give you any indication of sound quality. But you can use these FR graphs to help you figure out what kind of sound they have.
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United States9452 Posts
There are some other technical specs that may give you an idea about how headphones sound, especially if you are familiar with many headphones and can use them as reference. You can measure and objectively quantify certain aspects of sound accuracy. (e.g. play a test tone and measure the THD+N%) That may or may not correspond to sound quality as perceived by different people. Once you start considering human perception, you will find sound quality very hard to define, since you'll find that many people prefer headphones A to B, and many others will prefer headphones B to A. Furthermore, there will be differing opinions on what sounds better or more accurate than the other, even while playing the same music.
The frequency response shows how strong bass, mids, and treble are relative to each other. This is generally the number one difference between different headphones, though it's not at all a complete description of how they sound. Those HeadRoom graphs are normalized to 1 kHz being 0 dB. If the graph is a horizontal line, then the headphones have a flat response (not emphasizing one frequency over another) in some sense. What the above means is that if you input say a 1 V rms tone @ 40 Hz, the Sony XB700 will be 15 dB louder than if you input a 1 V rms tone @ 1 kHz. This means the bass frequencies are overemphasized. Of course, a lot of people like that kind of sound.
On a side note, I think HeadRoom also does some other normalization tricks that influence the shape of the graphs. See also here for some other data:
http://www.geocities.jp/ryumatsuba/review.html
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I'm using the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80Ohm.
I've tried about 30 headphones in the price range of 150€ (200USD) and I like the DT770's sound the best.
Also they are super comfortable and seem indestructable.
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What are your thoughts on razer orcas? I know they're pretty cheap, but I have a good set of speakers and these would be only for when people go to bed/going to lans. They look bitchin'
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I'm looking to do something like this.
I'm wondering if it's possible to use 4 conductor wire to run the two stereo signals without too many problems.
This would involve rewiring the driver connection, then wiring the stereo mic jack, combining the grounds, then splitting the 4 conductor into two 3.5mm jacks at the terminal end
I am completely inexperienced and do not know if this is possible. If it isn't, I'll just run two 2 conductor cables instead.
Thanks!
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On February 20 2011 13:20 politik wrote:
Of course onboard sound isn't perfect, but people going around recommending to buy a $100 card for a $200 pair of headphones is just bad. That's money you could spend on better headphones or an amp, or maybe McDonalds, monster HDMI cables, etc.
All I can say is
$200 headphones + Xonar DX > $280 headphones
Who is going to use expensive headphones with onboard sound?
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