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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
September 26 2010 02:24 GMT
#61
I actually have less respect for American Congress after watching this video, both Democrats and Republicans were using this to posture and try and push through their own agendas instead of focusing on the issue.

At least Stephen did his job by drawing attention to the issue, he really didn't need to do much else.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 02:25:55
September 26 2010 02:25 GMT
#62
On September 26 2010 10:08 Hikko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 00:31 Neivler wrote:
As a ignorant european. What is this? Watching it atm?

Know Colbert is in the show at Comedy Central.


From what I understand as an American, US Congress (think of it like Parliament in the UK) has committees that have hearings that aren't quite court proceedings that serve to provide evidence for the Congress. The hearing represents many sides of the coin in regards to farm labor in America, especially in outsourcing of our food growth and illegal immigrants taking jobs in agriculture. The minority Republican party has taken a stance largely anti-illegal immigrant, and would like to increase prices slightly in order to make farm jobs more attractive to American workers, while the majority Democratic party takes more of a stance of legalizing these immigrants (really, I'm not sure if there is an overall stance by the Democrats, it's kind of the easy way to put it).

There are a lot of issues, but it includes illegal immigrants taking jobs and not paying taxes, and a lot lot more.

My position? Working on a farm blows when you can get pretty much any other job. I've worked picking oranges for a few months, and it just blows. I've worked with Illegals, and they risk a whole lot to get here in order to earn a living for their families. I honor them, and I loved the guys that I worked with, but I don't honor the fact that they break the law in order to do so. I'm very glad that I'm going into Computer Science.

Even with his withdraw, the black guy in the khaki suit is a freaking douche bag for asking Colbert to leave. I don't care who is there and how non-credible you find them, you just don't do that.

I love Colbert, but he needed to be a little more serious, I think.

EDIT: Holy cow, the black lady in the blue outfit is terribly tunnel visioned, all she talks about is African American workers without answering any questions. Everything is the fault of the white man, right? =/

That "black guy in the khaki suit" is John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He wanted the avoid the "this is a mockery" backlash we're seeing now, while still getting some of the attention. Colbert had already submitted everything he said in writing.


On September 26 2010 11:24 johanngrunt wrote:
I actually have less respect for American Congress after watching this video, both Democrats and Republicans were using this to posture and try and push through their own agendas instead of focusing on the issue.

At least Stephen did his job by drawing attention to the issue, he really didn't need to do much else.

I've seen even worse. :/
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
September 26 2010 02:38 GMT
#63
On September 26 2010 11:25 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 10:08 Hikko wrote:
On September 26 2010 00:31 Neivler wrote:
As a ignorant european. What is this? Watching it atm?

Know Colbert is in the show at Comedy Central.


From what I understand as an American, US Congress (think of it like Parliament in the UK) has committees that have hearings that aren't quite court proceedings that serve to provide evidence for the Congress. The hearing represents many sides of the coin in regards to farm labor in America, especially in outsourcing of our food growth and illegal immigrants taking jobs in agriculture. The minority Republican party has taken a stance largely anti-illegal immigrant, and would like to increase prices slightly in order to make farm jobs more attractive to American workers, while the majority Democratic party takes more of a stance of legalizing these immigrants (really, I'm not sure if there is an overall stance by the Democrats, it's kind of the easy way to put it).

There are a lot of issues, but it includes illegal immigrants taking jobs and not paying taxes, and a lot lot more.

My position? Working on a farm blows when you can get pretty much any other job. I've worked picking oranges for a few months, and it just blows. I've worked with Illegals, and they risk a whole lot to get here in order to earn a living for their families. I honor them, and I loved the guys that I worked with, but I don't honor the fact that they break the law in order to do so. I'm very glad that I'm going into Computer Science.

Even with his withdraw, the black guy in the khaki suit is a freaking douche bag for asking Colbert to leave. I don't care who is there and how non-credible you find them, you just don't do that.

I love Colbert, but he needed to be a little more serious, I think.

EDIT: Holy cow, the black lady in the blue outfit is terribly tunnel visioned, all she talks about is African American workers without answering any questions. Everything is the fault of the white man, right? =/

That "black guy in the khaki suit" is John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He wanted the avoid the "this is a mockery" backlash we're seeing now, while still getting some of the attention. Colbert had already submitted everything he said in writing.


Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 11:24 johanngrunt wrote:
I actually have less respect for American Congress after watching this video, both Democrats and Republicans were using this to posture and try and push through their own agendas instead of focusing on the issue.

At least Stephen did his job by drawing attention to the issue, he really didn't need to do much else.

I've seen even worse. :/


I'm glad I don't pay more attention to American politics then.

Politics in Hong Kong are also more or less a farce. Mostly controlled by Beijing, but there is a movement to get democracy going.
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
September 26 2010 03:48 GMT
#64
On September 26 2010 11:25 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 10:08 Hikko wrote:
On September 26 2010 00:31 Neivler wrote:
As a ignorant european. What is this? Watching it atm?

Know Colbert is in the show at Comedy Central.


From what I understand as an American, US Congress (think of it like Parliament in the UK) has committees that have hearings that aren't quite court proceedings that serve to provide evidence for the Congress. The hearing represents many sides of the coin in regards to farm labor in America, especially in outsourcing of our food growth and illegal immigrants taking jobs in agriculture. The minority Republican party has taken a stance largely anti-illegal immigrant, and would like to increase prices slightly in order to make farm jobs more attractive to American workers, while the majority Democratic party takes more of a stance of legalizing these immigrants (really, I'm not sure if there is an overall stance by the Democrats, it's kind of the easy way to put it).

There are a lot of issues, but it includes illegal immigrants taking jobs and not paying taxes, and a lot lot more.

My position? Working on a farm blows when you can get pretty much any other job. I've worked picking oranges for a few months, and it just blows. I've worked with Illegals, and they risk a whole lot to get here in order to earn a living for their families. I honor them, and I loved the guys that I worked with, but I don't honor the fact that they break the law in order to do so. I'm very glad that I'm going into Computer Science.

Even with his withdraw, the black guy in the khaki suit is a freaking douche bag for asking Colbert to leave. I don't care who is there and how non-credible you find them, you just don't do that.

I love Colbert, but he needed to be a little more serious, I think.

EDIT: Holy cow, the black lady in the blue outfit is terribly tunnel visioned, all she talks about is African American workers without answering any questions. Everything is the fault of the white man, right? =/

That "black guy in the khaki suit" is John Conyers (D-MI), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He wanted the avoid the "this is a mockery" backlash we're seeing now, while still getting some of the attention. Colbert had already submitted everything he said in writing.


Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 11:24 johanngrunt wrote:
I actually have less respect for American Congress after watching this video, both Democrats and Republicans were using this to posture and try and push through their own agendas instead of focusing on the issue.

At least Stephen did his job by drawing attention to the issue, he really didn't need to do much else.

I've seen even worse. :/


You're totally right, I just think that Colbert had already completed the job by simply getting into the hearing. I think by putting his neck out and asking Colbert to leave Conyers didn't achieve much except for making himself look more unresponsive to public opinion and more closed up. It was a VERY bad decision to let Colbert anywhere near the hearing, but having him show up only to be kicked out would've made a bad situation worse.

It's stuff like this that makes it hard for me to take Democrats seriously. Granted, I can't take most Republicans seriously for many more reasons than that
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
September 26 2010 03:51 GMT
#65
Colbert has 40 pound balls. He really does.
SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
September 26 2010 04:23 GMT
#66
what the HELL was that black woman in the pink suit talking about, was she even listening to what the other people were talking about? did she have a clue about what the assembly was about? >_<
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
September 26 2010 04:38 GMT
#67
On September 26 2010 13:23 Sad Hermit wrote:
what the HELL was that black woman in the pink suit talking about, was she even listening to what the other people were talking about? did she have a clue about what the assembly was about? >_<


Maybe she was too caught up on issues pertaining to african americans leading to tunnel vision regarding everything else.
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pic semi related.
SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
September 26 2010 05:02 GMT
#68
On September 26 2010 13:38 johanngrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 13:23 Sad Hermit wrote:
what the HELL was that black woman in the pink suit talking about, was she even listening to what the other people were talking about? did she have a clue about what the assembly was about? >_<


Maybe she was too caught up on issues pertaining to african americans leading to tunnel vision regarding everything else.

pic semi related.


lol completely agree
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
September 26 2010 05:13 GMT
#69
I'm not sure I like that he was in character during this. I feel like it was an opportunity for him to make an important statement about what he went through, but really he weakened his point by making jokes.

That's just my opinion.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
September 26 2010 05:24 GMT
#70
Haha colbert is dominating these guys. You can tell so many are trying not to laugh
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
September 26 2010 05:45 GMT
#71
On September 26 2010 14:24 0mgVitaminE wrote:
Haha colbert is dominating these guys. You can tell so many are trying not to laugh


lol the cornpacker joke about gay Iowans...omfg XD

You can see the two congressmen behind the person asking colbert questions are laughing so hard.

Colbert did his job, whether he was in character or not. Whether you like him or not, even. His job is to get the word out about the issues. After seeing Colbert's section, I actually sat through the rest of it (woot Cspan watching at 2am) and got some interesting points about it.

I really hate the Repubs/Democrats stabbing at each other. "We only had 10 seconds to revise this bill. Maybe you should talk to your higher ups Ms. 72 hours" Blah blah blah.

Way to waste 3 of your 5 minutes telling the democrats how dumb you think they are. *facepalm*
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
LaLLsc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States502 Posts
September 26 2010 05:58 GMT
#72
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.
Live and Let Live
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
September 26 2010 06:16 GMT
#73
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.


All politicians then? XD
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 06:20:53
September 26 2010 06:20 GMT
#74
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.

Those that answer perfectly straight are unemployed.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
September 26 2010 06:40 GMT
#75
On September 26 2010 15:20 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.

Those that answer perfectly straight are unemployed.


Bahahaha. Aye, they wouldn't be very good politicians if they didn't twist everything they said.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
September 26 2010 06:57 GMT
#76
On September 26 2010 15:20 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.

Those that answer perfectly straight are unemployed.

Which says what about the people electing them? Democracy scares the hell out of me sometimes.
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SadStarcraft
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico56 Posts
September 26 2010 07:11 GMT
#77
On September 26 2010 15:16 johanngrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.


All politicians then? XD


i thought it was hilarious how much talking and how long it was taking them to say something that would otherwise take 1-2 sentences lol and then when they ask questions they get frustrated when they cant get a yes or no answer.
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
September 26 2010 11:51 GMT
#78
On September 26 2010 16:11 Sad Hermit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2010 15:16 johanngrunt wrote:
On September 26 2010 14:58 LaLLsc2 wrote:
Politicians that cant answer questions straight are pathetic.


All politicians then? XD


i thought it was hilarious how much talking and how long it was taking them to say something that would otherwise take 1-2 sentences lol and then when they ask questions they get frustrated when they cant get a yes or no answer.



I'm actually surprised how many people watched it.
Brotkrumen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany193 Posts
September 26 2010 11:56 GMT
#79
especially the introductory note of that women in the beginning creeped me out. why do you have to drop "american" "united states" "our nation" etc every 5 seconds?
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-26 14:27:53
September 26 2010 14:27 GMT
#80
On September 26 2010 20:56 Brotkrumen wrote:
especially the introductory note of that women in the beginning creeped me out. why do you have to drop "american" "united states" "our nation" etc every 5 seconds?


Because she's not making any sense, and can only attempt to appeal to people with such phrases. Classical fallacious speeches.
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
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